The long road to bring an adaptation of Treasure Island to the screen, only to end in tragedy.
Background for Atlantis The Lost Empire: https://youtu.be/9nvPuf8MS-o
I remember back when you first did Atlantis and alluded to your eventual look at this one. Glad its finally here.
Im glad that Treasure Planet has become vindicated and reevaluated, especially given the current online discourse of Disney's current films and how so many damn people keep decrying how Disney is dying because of the current stuff.
I saw this for the first time recently. I'm not a fan. It's not bad, I liked the animation and some designs the most. Story and character didn't do a whole lot for me.
Such an under appreciated gem In my opinion it was better than Atlantis (and way better than Pearl Harbor obviously) I think it probably just came out at the wrong time and didn't have enough of the studio backing behind it. (Competing against Shrek was obviously a death sentence)
Also keep in mind that Musker and Clements supposedly hated Katzenberg so much (apparently most Disney employees and animators hated the guy and Eisner was constantly having to apologize for his behavior) that they told James Woods stories about him, which was one of the main inspirations for Woods' performance as Hades in Hercules.
I feel like those last gasps of 2d animation from disney are some of those most underrated disney stuff. man i miss 2D films in theatres. I feel like if I knew they'd become a rarity then I would of watched more of them, even the bad ones.
Today I learned that I did not notice when this movie came out because whatever money could have been used to market it was wasted on an over-the-top marketing stunt for Pearl Harbour.
…do these people in the business ever actually watch their movies???
It's funny how Disney has made both of the best Treasure Island films and both are so incredibly underrated for their era. Treasure Planet was such a mature and universally relatable tale, while Muppet Treasure Island had an all-star cast that included Tim Curry as Long John Silver, a soundtrack better than a Muppet Movie had any right to have, and was ironically, the more gruesome of the two takes, actually depicting period accurate torture (through the lens of slapstick humor, of course) and is one of the only times I can think of where a Disney villain actually tried to use a gun on the protagonist. The muppet version also had the less sympathetic version of Long John, who was more convincing of a cut-throat, but far less convincing of a father figure to Jim, culminating in the aforementioned drawing of a gun on Jim while escaping and the ultimate comeuppance of the ship sinking and winding up stranded on the island. In Treasure Planet, Jim straight up assists with the escape and they part on as good, if not better terms than their previous friendship, with Long John truly falling into that role of father figure Jim needed, while MTI had Captain Smollet fill more of that father figure role.
Ah, nice to be reminded Disney Drama is nothing new.
Treasure Planet, or as I call it: The Patreon Pick.
This movie deserved so much more. It's iconic.
Okay, raise your hand if it was this, Muppet Treasure Island and Return To Treasure Island.
I remember back when you first did Atlantis and alluded to your eventual look at this one. Glad its finally here.
Im glad that Treasure Planet has become vindicated and reevaluated, especially given the current online discourse of Disney's current films and how so many damn people keep decrying how Disney is dying because of the current stuff.
Do these damn people not know their history?
This is one of my favorite Disney movies, it's underrated as hell and I still love it.
This was one of my favorite movies growing up. Thanks for bringing its background into focus sfdebris, it truly is an under-rated Disney gem.
One of my favorite Disney movies…
And given that this was Joseph Levitt’s first voice acting role, he did a very good job.
Disney hubris….the hell you aay
Huh, I watched this flick for the first time just last night! Sometimes timing just works out great like that.
I saw this for the first time recently. I'm not a fan. It's not bad, I liked the animation and some designs the most. Story and character didn't do a whole lot for me.
People evidently did NOT like animated space movies in this era.
Disney was thinking about doing a Swan Lake movie? And they didn't do it!?
Y'know what? We have the Barbie version.
Such an under appreciated gem
In my opinion it was better than Atlantis (and way better than Pearl Harbor obviously)
I think it probably just came out at the wrong time and didn't have enough of the studio backing behind it. (Competing against Shrek was obviously a death sentence)
Also keep in mind that Musker and Clements supposedly hated Katzenberg so much (apparently most Disney employees and animators hated the guy and Eisner was constantly having to apologize for his behavior) that they told James Woods stories about him, which was one of the main inspirations for Woods' performance as Hades in Hercules.
I’d be more on board with this movie if the aliens weren’t largely butt-ugly
I feel like those last gasps of 2d animation from disney are some of those most underrated disney stuff. man i miss 2D films in theatres. I feel like if I knew they'd become a rarity then I would of watched more of them, even the bad ones.
I am blown away by how well researched, multifaceted and rhetorically presented your essay on the background to Treasure Planet is.
So many of these movies get shafted by backroom deals and bad timing.
Today I learned that I did not notice when this movie came out because whatever money could have been used to market it was wasted on an over-the-top marketing stunt for Pearl Harbour.
…do these people in the business ever actually watch their movies???
It's funny how Disney has made both of the best Treasure Island films and both are so incredibly underrated for their era. Treasure Planet was such a mature and universally relatable tale, while Muppet Treasure Island had an all-star cast that included Tim Curry as Long John Silver, a soundtrack better than a Muppet Movie had any right to have, and was ironically, the more gruesome of the two takes, actually depicting period accurate torture (through the lens of slapstick humor, of course) and is one of the only times I can think of where a Disney villain actually tried to use a gun on the protagonist. The muppet version also had the less sympathetic version of Long John, who was more convincing of a cut-throat, but far less convincing of a father figure to Jim, culminating in the aforementioned drawing of a gun on Jim while escaping and the ultimate comeuppance of the ship sinking and winding up stranded on the island. In Treasure Planet, Jim straight up assists with the escape and they part on as good, if not better terms than their previous friendship, with Long John truly falling into that role of father figure Jim needed, while MTI had Captain Smollet fill more of that father figure role.