Today we look at 5 times a captain or admiral really should’ve jsut stayed at home, as voted on by the fine folks over on Patreon!
00:00:00 – Intro
00:00:34 – Why this list?
00:01:30 – Mary Rose
00:09:01 – French naval assitance for the American War of Independence
00:16:16 – Dardenelles Expedition… 1807 Edition
00:32:50 – MV Spreevald
00:37:29 – Mogami gets a Pentakill!
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😮😧😳 Fascinating!
What's the name of the painting you used at 13:08 it's beautiful!
Sees the topic, goes looking for binoculars to throw. Peers over shoulder searching for suspected torpedo boats.
Always smiling when seeing these huge white flags on the french ships 😀
Seriously, I think the only torpedo attack in history that went worse might have been HMS Trinidad's.
While defending an Arctic convoy (the aptly-numbered PQ-13) from German surface attack, she totally annihilated one Narvik-class destroyer with her guns, but also decided to launch torpedoes at it.
Of the three torpedoes in the mount, all were fired – two froze solid in their tubes and the third got away, ran a perfect semi-circle (after the gyro froze) and struck the Trinidad's side abreast the bridge and TT bank (which fell off the ship from the damage). The transmitting station deep in the hull was flooded with fuel oil and everyone in there perished.
Although she made it to Murmansk and was patched up, on her return journey, Trinidad's scab was blown in by a near-miss from a Ju-88's bombs, resulting in yet more flooding from her own self-inflicted torpedo wound, and her subsequent abandonment and loss.
Way to use torpedoes.
This proves the axiom: "friendly fire isn't friendly."
The one where the Confederate Navy burned three of it's ships (including an ironclad) because of a wooden dummy ship is a pretty big own goal.
I would be tempted to nominate the entire Pacific War, which was a colossal blunder on Japan's part–particularly since there's documentary evidence, in the transcripts of the Imperial Conferences held in 1940 and '41, that practically everyone responsible knew that and, after careful consideration, decided to… go ahead and do it anyway?!
I suppose it could be argued that it wasn't specifically a naval own goal, since the culture of the IJA was ultimately responsible for the national policy being thus enacted, and only the execution of said disastrous policy fell to the IJN, but…
canada: the russia of the 1800s. sorry the other russia of the 1800s. not like, the whole historical, legendary failure, cool map for historians equivalent of napolean's failed invasion but we love america (mostly) now but we burned down your seat of goverment once so what's up is what i'm saying.
YEAH that salvo from Mogami got to be the most effective torp salvo ever ..
Tirpitz (the man) is possibly the ultimate naval own goal. His obsession, which he sold the Kaiser on, likely lost the Germans WW1.
No kamchatka?
Did Kamala Harris write the letter for Duckworth?
I have nothing of historical value or relevant knowledge to add but I do however really want to say thanks to Drachinifel for making his videos and also to just say how much I enjoy them,, they're blumin great if you ask me 😊
Must've happened to some other fellow at least: The section, or fragment actually, in which Admiral Duckworth's letter was read and your subsequent comment, made laugh out loud, to the point where I had to use the captions to learn about what you were saying immediatly afterwards. Oh Lord, what a way to learn and laugh so much at the same time, thank you Drach, thank you dearly, and given it's 31st already, may you have a Happy New Year!
Duckworth's letter to the Sultan; Sir Humphrey Appleby approves😂
When I saw the title I thought that it could only be an intro video to managing navies in Hearts of Iron 4.
Thanks again for an enlightening video.
Own Goal #6: Kamchatka
34.41 interred? Interned surely, that would be a big hole to dig!
EXCELLENT . . . thank you for the continued fine presentations
I can understand Duckworth's letter perfectly but I have no idea what an "own goal" is…
Seeing a Swedish flag on your starting model, I was rather expecting the WASA. Being a Dane of course I lament not having that wonderful story told again. And again. And again.
one section, where drach just states. The Kamchatka. Next section.
I need to sleep, this is too good and it’s keeping me awake. I’ll be back tomorrow morning lol
16:00 "..although I'm sure the Americans appreciate it." Hilariously, we don't. The primary artifacts still remaining of Louis' assistance are a few streets named after some guy, "Lafayette", and a badly reinvented, boxed version of "macaroni beschemel".
Having lord Mountbatten, captain disaster he was called, in charge was one.
A wee bit of guillotining ensued, you might say…
Possibly France might have been able to sort out it's finances if it had switched to a paper currency but, of course, this had been made impossibly by the Mississippi Company bublle in the early 18th century which made our South Seas Bubble look like a minor economic blip (and gave us the word 'millionaire'). So was John Law, who was Scottish, and caused the French bubble responsible for Britain's success?
Upon being handed demands concealed amidst a thick cloud of pompous and wandering verbiage, the Ottomans should have simply responded with, "Nuts!" But alas, that had not yet been invented.
I historically view the Napoleonic wars as World War 2; criteria is global naval engagement in at least two oceans and seas (including privateering and low-level mercantile interference) and simultaneous land associated land battles on at least two continents. The Seven Years War was thus World War 1 (although we might go back a century or two in the wars of Spain), and the last hot global war involving Hitler was World War 4.
Mogami after the truth came out: "Yeah, but we got the REAL enemy!"
That's also a good way to make sure you will most likely never have to go on escort duty for the IJA – they wouldn't want to have their arch-enemy near them.