Those ancient high tech guys Ben and Brian and Jimmy and their deceived audience of Rogans are an evil mafia, so fixed to their narrative and blind to their greed that they don’t realize their own evil. They are fascistic in their lies. Your commitment to simple honesty in research stands in stark contrast. Keep up the courage and adversarial barrage… who knows, you may save one of these deceived from hell if they might momentarily realize their immoral deceptions. 🙏🔑📐
Thanks for taking the time to critically examine the "40,000 precision diorite vases" claim. It's well established per the work of Scientists Against Myths and others that the dynastic (and pre-dynastic) Egyptians were quite capable of working with various types of stone. There is no evidence of high tech machines nor the infrastructure that would be required to power such machines.
I would be curious on how much they traded these vessels. Where the furthest one was found. That's another thing the Ancient Atlantians cult members never talk about. Where's the precision Egyptian vases in Peru?
They consider these vases to be the best evidence (and really it’s the last thing evidence) of their ideas, so it’s good to dig into them more and show that it isn’t the way they report them. The vases that Ben has access to and is currently working with don’t even have good documentation as artifacts.
"Myth" is not a strong enough word to represent the fraud of the Lost Ancient High Technology community and the word "Lie" while correct in the application is incomplete and just comes across as a cheap, petty and weak retort. "Grift" is appropriate, short and sweet but becoming overused. The LAHT operation is an internet cottage industry of con artists, slithery snake oil salesmen and sketchy carny folk all plying shell games, sleight of hand and cheap parlor tricks that work wonders on the weak minded. Looking for better words I think "False Advertising" nicely captures the core concepts of what they do but is maybe still not quite optically right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_advertising
Again, what are you saying, you can make two a day with hand tools. There is a youtuber that specializes making stone vases with hand tools out of all kind of rock, and what I can tell she is good at it. I believe it took her six month to make one. So your claim two a day is a bit optimistic, is it not? Are you gone use lathe?
The accuracy of some of the vases/bowels/plates/dishes. Even if there is only one vase, and if the measurements are correct (from Ben & co), you are not making them by hand. There is now amount of motivation to get to that kind of accuracy by hand.
Guess the are no engineers here. The level of accuracy that has been claimed can be achieved by hand on flat surfaces. In my experience – as a tool room engineer in the aircraft industry (so genuine rocket science) – it is not possible to achieve that sort of accuracy on curved surfaces without high capability machining. That level of accuracy does not occur by random chance either.
I am not saying it cannot be done, I am saying that there will not be any engineers around today who can do it.
Just a something on the other comments – no claims have been made regarding Atlantis or Aliens.
look dude the accuracy on SOME of the vases is extraordinary, end of story. if you want to claim that it was done by hand, then make a full replica vase by hand and show us? break the internet and become world famous for your efforts… but you CANT, you CANT make it by hand. so stop the waffle
What's special about the number 40,000? Could 20,000 have been made by Low Ancient Technology? How about 10,000? 5,000? 500? 50? The rampant stupidity and industrial strength ignorance of the LAHTers is equally hilarious and disturbing. I pity these people, who go through life in a semi-conscious state, never knowing what's true or false. Someone should teach these people what Occam's Razor is for, and how to use it. Thanks, as always, Alan!
you need to make a video of you making a replica of that bent five-leaf dish, made of granite, with a copper chisel, that will be the final coup de grace for the Atlanteans!
You know what really gets me, most of us got into this type of content because we know we’ve been played, lied to by those in power and every year more comes out that we were told was truth and it turns out to be lies by those in power. So when you get creators pushing more lies and passing it off as truth etc that many of us are ready to believe in because of the crap i mentioned before, its just a real kick in the balls to realise channels etc you trusted had one purpose and it wasn’t truth but to manipulate you for money. Its disgusting. On the other hand you Sir have absolutely out done yourself again and i feel such a fool for buying into their lies, thank you so much for exposing their con game, thank u.
Can we talk about about the art collector guy who is providing these vases to Ben at Uncharted X to measure. You know the guy who thinks the Czechoslovakia existed in the 1800s …yeah that guy. He freely admits that he has been telling sketchy art dealers for several years now to find him perfect predynastic Granite vases. And after a couple years of dangling 10s of thousands of dollars out there…voila! the super sketchy guy who makes…. er sorry "finds" crystal skulls found him a few vases… Isn't that amazing!
Let's look at this a different way. Archaeologists in the 1800s discover the "40,000" vases. They sift through them all, documenting everything, and pick out the very finest examples …then put them in museums around the world. Everyone can tell by looking at them for a 100 plus years that they have obvious flaws. 2022 comes around( just so happens to be the period of time when these vases could be easily replicated) and Bam!!! Uncharted X somehow gets three or four that are… according to Ben, trust me bro they're really old ….just happen to absolutely perfectly made… that somehow the archaeologists in the 1800s missed! incredible story.
The idea that there were ancient texh more advanced than now is rediculous. Where's the electric lights, metal tools, tranisters, rubber, plastics etc etc. These guys were so advanced they only worked copper, stone and wood. 🙄🤔😂 Not even bronze.
I have a bunch of expensive vases and plates in my house, and I have shitty ones made from plaster of paris by my kids at school. Every generation has a varied array of quality and craftsmanship. Why would we think they were made at different time periods, they're just made by more skilled artisans, not aliens.
Run over to Night Scarab's video on the the vases. Someone has pointed out that at 4:44 if you freeze it the pattern on the vase and the background is duplicated. The image is manipulated to look symmetrical. Can't get caught lying any worse than that!
Within the first minute you completely misrepresented your way through something I've never heard Ben even suggest, so you're already losing credibility, unless your clueless followers just love being placated and gaslit. Ben has suggested that the sheer number, possibly 40,000 of these vases found look to indicate that they might have come off an assembly line, particularly because there are evidence marks on them suggestive of being put on a lathe. MOST of the best work done on the stone vases were 4th Dynasty or earlier, where even iron tools didn't exist for another 1000 years making it seem unlikely that this precision was acheived by grinding and pounding stones together. Perhaps you get educated at least in forensic science which might get you to pull your head out of your ass and learn to look at indicators which might encourage SOME level of healthy skeptisim? Incidentally, I don't think aliens have ever been to this planet, and I certainly don't think much of anyone who'd make those accusations towards someone who at the very least used it jokingly towards those "experts" who fail to question details they know nothing about if it conflicts with the BS they can't let go of.
Last I looked stone vases etc. do not expire. They can certainly be damaged – otherwise they can last for a long time. Therefore the real crux of this LAHT argument actually hinges upon = "population." If the population of dynastic Egypt was high enough – which is was – then a caste of stone masons working within the greater Egyptian sphere of influence can within a single lifetime generate large numbers of stone vases of varying quality consistent with the skill of the artisan.
Moral of the story: Egyptologists estimate during the Old Kingdom period that Egypt had a population of upwards of a million people. Even if you say 1% are artisans capable of working stone to make vases etc. that is = 10K craftsmen. If they produced a single vase every 2 years that means that within a 10 year timeframe within all of Egypt they would have generated 50K stone vases.
So how "unreasonable" does that then become??? A Pharaoh having dominion over the entirety of Egypt + whose governmental system taxed the people + who engaged in public works + who maintained castes of workers at the State expense – aka "salary workers" = can surely acquire within a generation a considerable amount of produced items.
Final thought. The Egyptians were big on "symbolism". They believed the spirit of the dead required everything in the afterlife it did during the life of the individual. This is why they preserved their bodies and stocked their tombs with items they believed they needed – in large quantities if necessary.
Eventually they moved from placing actual items to instead have depictions of things – which they believed would translate into the actual item in the afterlife. Shaptis are an example of this – miniature figurines of supposed servants for the afterlife. In other cases you see painted on tomb walls all manner of foods for an individual who clearly was an epicurean in life – Khuwy in this case.
So not allow yourself to get distracted arguing "numbers" with the LAHT crowd. Simply point out that the population and conditions allowed for what we see. Enjoy your day folks.
I printed off Ben's STL files. He posted one file at first, then gave an updated 'repaired' version. The STL files for vases 2 and 4 would not open, not even in Blender or various 3D slicing programs. I was able to get the STLs for vases 3 and 5, though. The files for vases 2, 3, 4 & 5 have all been removed from his website now.
So I tried loading the 4 STLs into a slicing program, and it immediately flagged all files as incomplete or 'not manifold'. Basically, huge patches of the interior mesh data is simply missing. Printed them anyway on my resin printer, and the lack of mesh data was definitely an issue, resulting in random solid regions of the inside mesh being created. I am about to bisect them to see the results, but they feel mostly solid, except vase 5. You can still see interior mesh fragments with a slicer program, indicating the walls of the vases were quite thick.
But OK OK, what about the real impossible HARD stone vases. We all know about Alabaster vases we used to buy in Torremolinos in the 70s. A "fancy scanner" might just blow your mind. Tell you what mate, go find a way to fake a few translucent conglomerate anything. Pump em out.
How many black swans do I need to reject the hypothesis that all swans are white? Well, the answer is one, but ten will do to be on the safe side. How many such exhibits are there in the Cairo museum?
Nutjob: They found 40k friggin perfect stone vases under a pyramid.
Sane person: Prove it.
Nutjob: Uh, uh, whatabout this one perfect vase?
Sane person: Neither perfect nor provenanced.
Nutjob: Uh, uh, whatabout Gobekli Tepe, thousands of careers were ruined for doing pre-Clovis research, it takes ultrasonic machining to drill granite, go replicate the Serapeum, Zahi Hawass is the devil…….
Well JD you have a problem it seems some of us have had grandparents back in the 20s and 30s who helped dig up some of these and they’re not fake now how many there are who knows but some of the oldest ones returned on leave you may want to dispel this is though it were a myth, but that’s because you’re protecting your career and your money And the paradigm that continues to feed money to those who propagate your particular paradigm, and some of us, know it for a fact.
Anyone visites Saqqarra museum sees it is written by Minstrey of Antiquities years ago in the museum labels saying that 40,000 vessel from hard stones were found under the Step Pyramid It is written in English and French Miss information and as usual
Apparently aliens travelled across the universe here to earth, to make a tea set.
Excellent work. Another bullshit claim debunked.
Those ancient high tech guys Ben and Brian and Jimmy and their deceived audience of Rogans are an evil mafia, so fixed to their narrative and blind to their greed that they don’t realize their own evil. They are fascistic in their lies. Your commitment to simple honesty in research stands in stark contrast. Keep up the courage and adversarial barrage… who knows, you may save one of these deceived from hell if they might momentarily realize their immoral deceptions. 🙏🔑📐
Thanks for taking the time to critically examine the "40,000 precision diorite vases" claim. It's well established per the work of Scientists Against Myths and others that the dynastic (and pre-dynastic) Egyptians were quite capable of working with various types of stone. There is no evidence of high tech machines nor the infrastructure that would be required to power such machines.
I would be curious on how much they traded these vessels. Where the furthest one was found. That's another thing the Ancient Atlantians cult members never talk about. Where's the precision Egyptian vases in Peru?
SGD, fighting the good fight. Keep the faith and thanks for the content. 💜
Overestimation and exaggeration are the LAHT's guiding principles. Where would they be without ?
The Atlanteans has CNC machines but not a single one of those stone vases are the same as the other.
LAHT requires different mathematical conversion formulas. So 40000 does in fact mean at least 40000 if you really, really want that to be true.
They consider these vases to be the best evidence (and really it’s the last thing evidence) of their ideas, so it’s good to dig into them more and show that it isn’t the way they report them. The vases that Ben has access to and is currently working with don’t even have good documentation as artifacts.
Thanks a lot for clearing this up!
"Myth" is not a strong enough word to represent the fraud of the Lost Ancient High Technology community and the word "Lie" while correct in the application is incomplete and just comes across as a cheap, petty and weak retort. "Grift" is appropriate, short and sweet but becoming overused. The LAHT operation is an internet cottage industry of con artists, slithery snake oil salesmen and sketchy carny folk all plying shell games, sleight of hand and cheap parlor tricks that work wonders on the weak minded. Looking for better words I think "False Advertising" nicely captures the core concepts of what they do but is maybe still not quite optically right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_advertising
Liked 'n shared again! I am your loyal fan! 😛 -will you remember me when you are famous? 😀
Again, what are you saying, you can make two a day with hand tools. There is a youtuber that specializes making stone vases with hand tools out of all kind of rock, and what I can tell she is good at it. I believe it took her six month to make one. So your claim two a day is a bit optimistic, is it not? Are you gone use lathe?
The accuracy of some of the vases/bowels/plates/dishes. Even if there is only one vase, and if the measurements are correct (from Ben & co), you are not making them by hand. There is now amount of motivation to get to that kind of accuracy by hand.
Keep it up. Great work.
If they ran a house of prostitution. They wouldn't have actual girls.
what does a lathe have to do with atlantis?
Guess the are no engineers here. The level of accuracy that has been claimed can be achieved by hand on flat surfaces. In my experience – as a tool room engineer in the aircraft industry (so genuine rocket science) – it is not possible to achieve that sort of accuracy on curved surfaces without high capability machining. That level of accuracy does not occur by random chance either.
I am not saying it cannot be done, I am saying that there will not be any engineers around today who can do it.
Just a something on the other comments – no claims have been made regarding Atlantis or Aliens.
The reality is EVEN the Toyota Corolla is manufactured with more precise measurements than anything the LAHT was supposedly capable of..
40k shards, perhaps.
Who was the first to claim 40k ?
look dude
the accuracy on SOME of the vases is extraordinary, end of story.
if you want to claim that it was done by hand, then make a full replica vase by hand and show us? break the internet and become world famous for your efforts…
but you CANT, you CANT make it by hand. so stop the waffle
mmmmm. more content. love more proof of advance technology 🙂
Great work as always, thank you for making these videos ❤️👍
What's special about the number 40,000? Could 20,000 have been made by Low Ancient Technology? How about 10,000? 5,000? 500? 50?
The rampant stupidity and industrial strength ignorance of the LAHTers is equally hilarious and disturbing.
I pity these people, who go through life in a semi-conscious state, never knowing what's true or false.
Someone should teach these people what Occam's Razor is for, and how to use it. Thanks, as always, Alan!
you need to make a video of you making a replica of that bent five-leaf dish, made of granite, with a copper chisel, that will be the final coup de grace for the Atlanteans!
You know what really gets me, most of us got into this type of content because we know we’ve been played, lied to by those in power and every year more comes out that we were told was truth and it turns out to be lies by those in power. So when you get creators pushing more lies and passing it off as truth etc that many of us are ready to believe in because of the crap i mentioned before, its just a real kick in the balls to realise channels etc you trusted had one purpose and it wasn’t truth but to manipulate you for money. Its disgusting. On the other hand you Sir have absolutely out done yourself again and i feel such a fool for buying into their lies, thank you so much for exposing their con game, thank u.
Can we talk about about the art collector guy who is providing these vases to Ben at Uncharted X to measure. You know the guy who thinks the Czechoslovakia existed in the 1800s …yeah that guy. He freely admits that he has been telling sketchy art dealers for several years now to find him perfect predynastic Granite vases. And after a couple years of dangling 10s of thousands of dollars out there…voila! the super sketchy guy who makes…. er sorry "finds" crystal skulls found him a few vases… Isn't that amazing!
Wait wait… hold on…
So retardedX lied?
Ong I'm so shocked hes aIways been so genuine & truthful
Let's look at this a different way. Archaeologists in the 1800s discover the "40,000" vases. They sift through them all, documenting everything, and pick out the very finest examples …then put them in museums around the world. Everyone can tell by looking at them for a 100 plus years that they have obvious flaws.
2022 comes around( just so happens to be the period of time when these vases could be easily replicated) and Bam!!! Uncharted X somehow gets three or four that are… according to Ben, trust me bro they're really old ….just happen to absolutely perfectly made… that somehow the archaeologists in the 1800s missed! incredible story.
The idea that there were ancient texh more advanced than now is rediculous. Where's the electric lights, metal tools, tranisters, rubber, plastics etc etc. These guys were so advanced they only worked copper, stone and wood. 🙄🤔😂 Not even bronze.
I have a bunch of expensive vases and plates in my house, and I have shitty ones made from plaster of paris by my kids at school. Every generation has a varied array of quality and craftsmanship. Why would we think they were made at different time periods, they're just made by more skilled artisans, not aliens.
Run over to Night Scarab's video on the the vases. Someone has pointed out that at 4:44 if you freeze it the pattern on the vase and the background is duplicated. The image is manipulated to look symmetrical. Can't get caught lying any worse than that!
bullshit
Within the first minute you completely misrepresented your way through something I've never heard Ben even suggest, so you're already losing credibility, unless your clueless followers just love being placated and gaslit. Ben has suggested that the sheer number, possibly 40,000 of these vases found look to indicate that they might have come off an assembly line, particularly because there are evidence marks on them suggestive of being put on a lathe. MOST of the best work done on the stone vases were 4th Dynasty or earlier, where even iron tools didn't exist for another 1000 years making it seem unlikely that this precision was acheived by grinding and pounding stones together.
Perhaps you get educated at least in forensic science which might get you to pull your head out of your ass and learn to look at indicators which might encourage SOME level of healthy skeptisim?
Incidentally, I don't think aliens have ever been to this planet, and I certainly don't think much of anyone who'd make those accusations towards someone who at the very least used it jokingly towards those "experts" who fail to question details they know nothing about if it conflicts with the BS they can't let go of.
Lets try again – which bit did my measure? What were the results?
Please try and answer without personal attacks and in at least semi grammatical English
Poor UnchartedX is having to do some damage control on his "impeccable provenance" claims.
Last I looked stone vases etc. do not expire. They can certainly be damaged – otherwise they can last for a long time. Therefore the real crux of this LAHT argument actually hinges upon = "population." If the population of dynastic Egypt was high enough – which is was – then a caste of stone masons working within the greater Egyptian sphere of influence can within a single lifetime generate large numbers of stone vases of varying quality consistent with the skill of the artisan.
Moral of the story: Egyptologists estimate during the Old Kingdom period that Egypt had a population of upwards of a million people. Even if you say 1% are artisans capable of working stone to make vases etc. that is = 10K craftsmen. If they produced a single vase every 2 years that means that within a 10 year timeframe within all of Egypt they would have generated 50K stone vases.
So how "unreasonable" does that then become??? A Pharaoh having dominion over the entirety of Egypt + whose governmental system taxed the people + who engaged in public works + who maintained castes of workers at the State expense – aka "salary workers" = can surely acquire within a generation a considerable amount of produced items.
Final thought. The Egyptians were big on "symbolism". They believed the spirit of the dead required everything in the afterlife it did during the life of the individual. This is why they preserved their bodies and stocked their tombs with items they believed they needed – in large quantities if necessary.
Eventually they moved from placing actual items to instead have depictions of things – which they believed would translate into the actual item in the afterlife. Shaptis are an example of this – miniature figurines of supposed servants for the afterlife. In other cases you see painted on tomb walls all manner of foods for an individual who clearly was an epicurean in life – Khuwy in this case.
So not allow yourself to get distracted arguing "numbers" with the LAHT crowd. Simply point out that the population and conditions allowed for what we see. Enjoy your day folks.
LAHTers smoking 40k shards
I printed off Ben's STL files.
He posted one file at first, then gave an updated 'repaired' version.
The STL files for vases 2 and 4 would not open, not even in Blender or various 3D slicing programs.
I was able to get the STLs for vases 3 and 5, though.
The files for vases 2, 3, 4 & 5 have all been removed from his website now.
So I tried loading the 4 STLs into a slicing program, and it immediately flagged all files as incomplete or 'not manifold'. Basically, huge patches of the interior mesh data is simply missing.
Printed them anyway on my resin printer, and the lack of mesh data was definitely an issue, resulting in random solid regions of the inside mesh being created.
I am about to bisect them to see the results, but they feel mostly solid, except vase 5.
You can still see interior mesh fragments with a slicer program, indicating the walls of the vases were quite thick.
But OK OK, what about the real impossible HARD stone vases. We all know about Alabaster vases we used to buy in Torremolinos in the 70s. A "fancy scanner" might just blow your mind. Tell you what mate, go find a way to fake a few translucent conglomerate anything. Pump em out.
How many black swans do I need to reject the hypothesis that all swans are white? Well, the answer is one, but ten will do to be on the safe side. How many such exhibits are there in the Cairo museum?
Answer this for a laugh, What should Britain do with The Elgin Marbles ?. I bet I know your answer.
Nutjob: They found 40k friggin perfect stone vases under a pyramid.
Sane person: Prove it.
Nutjob: Uh, uh, whatabout this one perfect vase?
Sane person: Neither perfect nor provenanced.
Nutjob: Uh, uh, whatabout Gobekli Tepe, thousands of careers were ruined for doing pre-Clovis research, it takes ultrasonic machining to drill granite, go replicate the Serapeum, Zahi Hawass is the devil…….
Well JD you have a problem it seems some of us have had grandparents back in the 20s and 30s who helped dig up some of these and they’re not fake now how many there are who knows but some of the oldest ones returned on leave you may want to dispel this is though it were a myth, but that’s because you’re protecting your career and your money And the paradigm that continues to feed money to those who propagate your particular paradigm, and some of us, know it for a fact.
Anyone visites Saqqarra museum sees it is written by Minstrey of Antiquities years ago in the museum labels saying that 40,000 vessel from hard stones were found under the Step Pyramid
It is written in English and French
Miss information and as usual