Remember that game franchise you use to love? It really sucks now-a-days, doesn’t it? But maybe… it wasn’t the series that changed, that’s what me and these lovely people investigate in this video!
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0:00 – @i am error
5:40 – @Afterthoughts
7:34 – @LambHoot
10:40 – @Darkfry
13:23 – @Video Games Are Bad
16:29 – @Pim’s Crypt
18:35 – @Skyehoppers
23:24 – @Chariot Rider
27:13 – @Aranock
33:27 – conclusion
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Amongst the eight collaborators, can you tell which ones I edited/put footage to, and which ones gave me both audio and video? (no shade to those that gave only audio, we're all super busy, and it's my video after all!). Put your guesses down below, something like: "4/8. [list of the four sections you thought I did]"
This collaboration is wicked cool. I'm halfway through and am loving these different perspectives. Has me reflecting on how different my habits, particularly with games, have become as I've gotten older. What a fascinating concept for a video
I just saw this on my sub list and audibly gasped, much to the chagrin of the zen sunbathing holiday goers around me. I look forward to watching it as I bake in the sun
Me just as interested in Pokemon as when I was a child, if not more so now. 😂
Love this so much and what a great idea for collaboration!
I've thought about this a lot as my tastes and life experience has changed so drastically over several times in my life. At the end I couldn't help but how this applies even outside of media, like personal relationships.
Beautiful video! 💜
Couldn't agree more about Pokémon. Something to look fondly back on that now gives plenty of others joy
5:40 omg sameo (sam cameo) spotted!
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No that's the problem.
It didn't change.
It's been 25 years and it didn't change.
We wanted change
Thanks for letting me be a part of this! <3
I think only mentally ill people assume they're supposed to like something for their entire life and not that they'll grow out of it like a normal person.
I do think Final Fantasy could be an exception here, since one of the reasons I like the series is how it keeps trying to reinvent its own wheels. It's certainly been doing so more drastically since X, but I wonder if the time between releases doesn't also have something to do with them being more drastically different from each other. Like, the first seven games all came out in the span of ten years, but we've barely had as many games in the over twenty years since X.
Either way, Final Fantasy does change, and I think that's beautiful.
This was such a fun project, thanks for having me on! It's so satisfying to see all the different directions people took this concept…I love writing lmao
This was a beautiful video full of interesting perspective. The idea of media changing without actually having change is fascinating to me. I'm autistic and my brain loves for my experiences to me as repeatable as possible. As I grew up, I would get frustrated when replaying a game and not feeling the same drive that I used to. Lament how there was no getting that first play through back, while failing to recognize that the only thing that had changed was me. Nowadays, I feel myself waiting for change. Waiting to see what game with offer me a new experience, whether new or-more excitingly-an old one.
this was a really good video I feel this way about destiny and destiny 2 I no longer feel like have anything to be angry at so the game loop of shooting endless adds is no longer fun to me.
i know exactly what you mean. when i was still in high school i used to play diablo 2 over and over, grinding for hours and just enjoying the ride. when diablo 3 released i finished it once with the demonhunter and noticed that i didn't care for this kind of gameplay loop at all anymore. probably not even going to play diablo 4; i'm just not interested.
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Thank you for this video, I think it really was needed because most people genially cant believe that they changed and not the franchise…
And as nicely the Tropico Community puts it; "A: This franchise hasnt evolved at all in the 20 years since Tropico 1 wtf. B: Yup and thats actually a good thing…"
I really love this perspective. Thank you so much for making me think about my attachments in a really interesting way.
Another BANGER
As someone who's played Pokémon since Gen 1, the idea that it suddenly dropped-off at Gen 4 is v funny to me.
Look forward to when you're a few years older and all the new pro-gamers show you the opposite phenomenon; everyone thinking the media they consumed between 10 -18 being objectively the best.
It's strange, this is definitely true for me with some games, especially like the Zelda franchise, where I don't even much enjoy playing what I used to like because I find a lot of it to be tedious as an adult. Simply reminiscing about those games is more fun than actually playing them.
But there are also many games/franchises which I've grown to love more than I did as a child, and some that definitely did change for the worse. Some games that stayed consistently great for me over decades would be something like Half-Life, which I played in the early 2000s for the first time, and then again with the release of Half-Life Alyx over 2 years ago. Another game that didn't have a single new release for 26 (!) years was Streets of Rage, and then Streets of Rage 4 released in 2020 and is now my favorite in the series.
Halo was mentioned in the video as not having changed much from Halo CE and Halo Infinite, but I disagree. They don't really try to do the same thing (except maybe on the surface level), and a lot of the content in the game has changed/gotten worse ever since 343 took over. I still enjoy playing through everything from Halo CE to Halo Reach and still value the games just as much, albeit with a sense of "this is all we're going to get", as in I have lost hope of new entries in the franchise that will grab my attention.
Also Halo Infinite kinda feels like the 2nd Halo CE level (my least favorite since childhood) dragged out to be a full game lol
I disagree.
Pokemon as a developing franchise grows and by extention it changes just like people do.
Pokemon and Their fans maybe just didn't change in the same ways over time, so fans at one point are not the fans at other points.
Just because you changed, doesn't mean pokemon didn't change… but you today, the developing franchises, etc.. they've also changed. A single entry of a franchise is like a snapshot, it doesn't change, but it's subject does.
I think the real problem is the idea that change is somehow a bad thing… it's not necessarily a good thing either… it's just a fact, anything that hasn't stopped growing has changed, and if it stops growing…. it's DEAD.
The intro to this really conflates two seperate issues as being the same.
Most obvious is how a lot of newer adult players of series like Final Fantasy generally still have a similar consensus as the allegedly nostalgia blinded fans.
This was such a good compilation of essays on a topic I haven't heard much about. Thanks for another great video!
This video essay has given me some food for thought about if this happened to me. I think I was in a similar boat with Pokemon. They were games where I used to be a big fan, but I ended up outgrowing them as time went on.
The difference between my experience with Pokemon though was that as a teenager, I thought Pokemon was "too kiddy". Going back and watching the anime, I was expecting to find this charm that I was once enthralled with as a kid. Instead, I was met with stark disappointment, seeing a lot of the flaws and nonsensical juvenile stories that would be told. This colored my expectations with the series as a whole. As I grew into an adult and became more mature, I realized that just because Pokemon doesn't appeal to the kid version of me anymore, doesn't make it bad. But going back and playing the series where I missed out on, which was the DS generation (Pokemon Platinum in particular I played), I realized that a lot of Pokemon just, didn't change enough to become interesting to me. It felt exactly like the GB/GBA Pokemon games I grew up with as a kid, like it was the same experience, just slightly different. As I've grown older, I realize more that I also was just done with that formula of the game, and wanted to see something new.
There's an argument to be made that, Pokemon as an entire series hasn't changed much from it's original conception. But even with the stagnation, I still can't have the expectations I had when I was a kid. I didn't know what to expect as a kid, I didn't know what I liked — hell, I didn't even know games COULD be bad for 14 years of my life! As I grow older though, I realize that I love it when games try new things. I love it when I experience something I've never have before. And Pokemon, while it has tried a little bit to experiment, hasn't done enough to excite me in recent years. So yes, the Pokemon series hasn't changed, but I have.
I’m glad this video was made! I just covered this topic recently myself, and I think it would be beneficial if alot of people came across this video