Pioneer is missing a real prison deck. Is grinding away opponent’s permanent with Doom Foretold as close as we can get to making prison work in the format? Let’s find out!
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I've been playing doom foretold in pioneer since the format's inception. A white black version. Its sooo sweet!
I feel like a lot of the success of the decks Seth plays is less based on the power level of them but his skill as a player. He’s insane!
19:11 why not just name Valgavoth here? If it's the only target for transmogrify anyways, is is not better to make sure they couldn't cast a valgavoth later?
I saw doom foretold on the thumbnail and it reminded me of fun standard era
Why trial of ambition over tithing blade? Sometimes you don't sac it and trial just sits there (since you don't have any cartouches) but blade can turn into a secondary win-con.
Love the deck idea btw.
This was a standard deck of mine till fires got banned
Missed opportunity to call the deck "Mardoom"
Always incredible how your introduction sounds 100% the same in every video 😅
Is Possibility Storm not a jank prison Pioneer deck?
I'm a simple man.
I see Explorer I press like.
I need an enchantment called "dude fortold" and it just does the opposite of doom fortold. Makes a token every upkeep for both players. Itd be great in a daggerburn deck
Isn't tithing blade better than trial??? Also where are the nowhere to run's??? Seems good for when you want targeted removal that is still permanent based
"And win the game eventually, somehow" is my favorite part of playing hate decks 😂
Seth really liking those Yorion piles lately 😀
The most annoying card ever lol.
Please tell me this deck is viable in SOME format lol
wait, am i dumb or why is seth playing 80 card main deck?
I have to wonder if your older strictly Orzhov version wouldn't have been better, especially with something like Victor, Valgavoth's Seneschal in it for Yorion blinks.
Love Doom Foretold
Ah, this is the archetype I've played a decent amount in Explorer. Pretty similar to the list I run though I like more Rite of Oblivions (though this was mainly before Disturbing Mirth). I'm also a fan of the 1-of Go Blank and Shelly in the main to get with Beseech the Mirror. I used to run the 1 Harmless Offering, but usually an unchecked Demonic Pact is enough to win and I wasn't retrieving it regularly. 42:00 illustrates exactly what I'm talking about. If opponent took Beseech, Yorion flickering everything (including Nightmare) leaves them with 1 card, kills their creatures, and they're facing 2 Fable Tokens + Yorion + a fresh Demonic Pact at 14. While it's not an immediate win, it's basically a 99%er at that point.
i remember when i started playing arena back in eldraine i thought doom foretold players were the absolute worst thing to run into
"We're going to play against prison deck."
First game: "We didn't even HAVE to win…"
Opponents are not very knowledgeable, me personally i would not choose the lose the game option
How do we add greed's gambit? Probably more offerings
Ive been playing black white doomforetold for about a year now in historic. My list uses invasion of tolvada and touch the spirit realm to really boost yorion value. I went 11-2 in best of one last time i played. Leyline binding hurts the deck the most
Hands down my favorite deck I ever played when Doom Foretold was in standard. It can be absolutely brutal, I love it.
I'm always happy to see Harmless Offering in a deck!
At this point i think "Seth, probably better known as 'Seth, Probably better known as SaffronOlive' " would be more accurate
Nowhere to run is a nice addition for targeted removal
There wasn’t a single green card in the video, the color pie is truly broken
47:25 "We had all the answers we needed, we had a hand to beat it" I love the rhyme here 🤌👌
I've played a lot of Doom Foretold in historic and I'm very surprised not to see Oath of Kaya, at least on the sideboard. It's very good for shoring up your matchup against aggro decks. I haven't played as much Pioneer, but watching these games, it definitely seems like it would have been better than, say, the Hopeless Nightmares, maybe?
Please play more mtgo, not arena
Just made this in like 2 minutes on Arena. Does anyone want to improve it? Otherwise might be fun to give it a try.
Deck
20 Hare Apparent (FDN) 15
20 Plains (FDN) 273
4 Regal Bunnicorn (WOE) 25
2 Valley Questcaller (BLB) 36
4 Hinterland Sanctifier (FDN) 730
4 Lay Down Arms (BRO) 11
4 Caretaker's Talent (BLB) 6
2 Enduring Innocence (DSK) 6
Is it possible to change the deck to just orzhov or does it lose too much?
My pet deck! Pulled it as my PR card and thought 'well thats rubbish'. It's not… my favourite 4 Mana Enchantment ever.
Oh, this is why I was playing against this today, lol.
Your pioneer content is really cool👍
There were a couple turns where you should have been using the Castle to draw some cards at the end of your opponents turn…never change Seth…this is the content we come for…that and Boilerbiggles…
plays a doom foretold deck
seems to take every single play EXCEPT doom foretold???
like, if you had taken doom foretold instead of the wrath with beseech the game you lost to bloodletter, you wouldn't have died next turn. Even if you weren't sure what else he was going to play, you were still sacrificing half your life when that just didn't need to happen. Doom foretold immobilizes the slasher, then he plays whatever he plays, and then he either loses the new creature or he kills his own slasher for good his following turn. That's about the best situation you could have hoped for since you had no creatures to gain life off of and it still wouldn't have killed the slasher for good.
Doom Foretold is one of my favorite if not my favorite card. When it came out on Arena I quickly adopted it and then kept playing it for years in historic. Orzhov, Esper, Mardu, no matter what color combination, it was the only deck that kept being reasonably effective with any meta going on and it was so fun.
Eventually it got to a point where it felt like it was being powercrept out by all the snowbally, card-generating threats that MTG has been getting (way too much IMO) so I stopped and kinda forgot about it for a couple of years. Thank you for reminding me of it! I'll definitely give it another shot, this time in explorer!
Doom Foretold was the happiest I'd ever been to see a card rotate out of Standard. It was so opressive to play against. It was just able to stall the board for several turns as you could not play anything into it. It allowed the control player to get so far ahead. Watching these matches has brought back those nightmarish memories.
What a fun format. Duress taking thoughtsieze and thoughtsieze taking duress every game
More cards, more better right?
26:43 block, land, yorion blink the sec enchantment?