What is it Like Under Alien Skies on an Alien Planet? What is needed to prove aliens are visiting us? Would an Alien look anything like us? Phil Plait the Bad Astronomer joins John Michael Godier to discuss UAP, DART, the Artemis mission, and more.
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Philip Plait (a.k.a. The Bad Astronomer) is an astronomer and skeptic who runs the website BadAstronomy.com. His book of the same name, Bad Astronomy was released in 2002. In 2008, he became President of the James Randi Educational Foundation. He received his Ph.D. in astronomy from the University of Virginia in 1994 with a thesis on supernova SN 1987A.
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What do you think it’s like on an Alien planet? Would you go to space?
The guest is smart enough to realize there's no way any intellectually superior organism could possibly be capable of intentionally toying with, or antagonizing his intellectual skepticism by manipulating his perceptions about claimed observations.
If a craft is capable of manipulating gravity for propulsive drive, could that same gravity manipulation control light and change its appearance as well? Magic or technology?
Love how UAPs are now off the list of forbidden topics, though I'm still amazed that in 200 incidents of rich, multi sensor data involving radars on ships and airplanes, infrared, multiple ground and air based trained observers and cameras, they focus on one or two images and use that dismiss any discussion on it. It's not one or two blurry pictures it's the most sophisticated combined sensory array ( a nuclear powered aircraft carrier task force) encountering a baffling phenomena 200 times in two years. Dropped the ball on this one.
Few credible people have been claiming that UAPS are established as alien craft.
That’s a straw man; it’s not the argument most people are making.
The argument most people are making is that ‘this isn’t a nothing-burger, we’re reaching the point where there so much circumstantial and contextual evidence
Default-skeptics are irritating because they’re equally as irrational as the people who ‘know’ they’re ancient aliens from the Crab Nebula. While simultaneously believing their reasoning is superior.
We’ve mountains of indications at this point that we can reliably claim that something extra/crypto terrestrial has been present here.
You’re not going to get ‘Whitehouse lawn’ confirmation if they haven’t done so before now. You’re not going to get the ‘smoking gun’ if a hyper advanced species that has been here millennia doesn’t want you to have it…what a ridiculous notion to be locked into. Just because we cannot define it yet, doesn’t mean it isn’t highly likely something fishy is going on. Anyone who can look at this from a historical and modern scientific context can see this. I personally think the people who readily discount this are in love with their own ego, and the notion that something could be so far beyond us and always JUST out of our grasp is threatening to them.
Thanks for putting out content though, as always John.
I've seen a fata morgana too! Didn't know that's what it was called. Love that term!
If an Aliens did walk up to humans I'm not sure most humans would believe it. Our minds may not let us make that jump.
Bad Astronomer. Bad guest. A cricket uses more logic and has a better imagination.
Yeah, I used to look at people who said they've seen a UFO as BS too until it happened to me. Here's the story and I'm sticking to it…
About 5 years ago I lived about 2 blocks from the beach and one evening I was sitting on my porch. Saw what I thought were about 6 luminaries floating above the beach. There were like 2 green, 2 red & 2 blue, just lights, kind of like a glowing/flickering Christmas light (ie, why I thought they were luminaries). Then one of the red ones started circling one of the blue ones. Don't ask me why I think any of the following things but these were the distinct impressions I got. It was communicating with it. Then they all shot out into space, extremely fast however they defied the laws of physics because they did not get smaller in size nor grow dimmer as they should have tho they did get a bit smaller in size and while the lights barely dimmed the colors did fade into white (if they hadn't moved at this point you would have mistaken them for a star). W/in a minute one of them took a hard right turn (by this time I had called out to a neighbor who was watching them w/me). When it did I got the impression they were far out of our solar system (ie faster than the speed of light). What's strikes me to this day is they were the RGB colors (& the defying physics aspect). Also when they took off it wasn't a straight up, it was like a 45 degree projectory.
Yes, I know it sounds like BS, trust me… I know. But in my personal humbled opinion the 3 keys that may help someone figure out what they were are:
1) The circling of the UFO at 1st in order to exchange information
2) The RGB color
3) The UFOs not getting smaller nor dimmer as they should have
So let me get this straight, this guy writes a book amongst other things on what it’s like to fall into a black hole because he did the math and he seems confident he is probably correct…. Well, some scientists back in the day did calculations to prove your head would explode if you went into a tunnel over 40 mph whilst on a train….. didn’t like his attitude at all, too much of the typical old school scientific arrogance for my liking.
Too many people on platforms grasping for any shred of information to prop up their fear based assumptions. Luckily critical thinking and the scientific approach have been defunded. (As usual) Cool thing about not actually having to write a book or paper subject to peer review (thanks internet), book burnings and disinformation campaigns happen long before one is likely or able to even take thought into consideration. (Forgive the rant)
IT’S WHAT PLANTS CRAVE
I don't think aliens have or are visited/visiting Earth. The "evidence" doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
On the otherhand, I don't think we'd even know if aliens were visiting. I suspect they'd either observe us from afar, or, plant disposable intelligent "artificial" probes that are printed/manufactured to look and act like natural animals, or even people. These probes wouldn't even necessarily need to be self aware in the sense that they "know" they are probes, and could go through their entire lives living a natural life. Meanwhile the whole time, some silent, undetectable bit of tech inside them feeds data back to the interested observering scientist aliens.
Such a method of observation, data collection, and exploration would significantly lower the risk of contaminating a biosphere and culture both biologically, technically, and culturally.
John Godier has never seen an UFO not because such sightings are rare, but because when you're an Alien inside an UFO, it's hard to spot another UFO in the sky apart from Fravor's jet.
Good interview thanks for the episode.
I have always been fascinated by the lack of interest (before Avi Loeb) of scientists about the UFO phenomenon. Not that the answer is “it’s alien” but that the phenomenon is real and one “possible” solution is alien visitation. This apathy, arrogance and in the words of Neil Degrasse Tyson “call me when you are going to dinner with an alien” screams of a certain lack of curiosity. Is it Alien? We do not know. Let’s do a very human thing… let’s investigate. Should we ridicule asking questions? May be we only need to ridicule the lack of scientific curiosity specially by “experts” that claim that their jobs is to study the unknown and come up with answers.
Avi Loeb is exempt from my criticism.
Sagan is not, Tyson is not, Dr Jill Carter is not, and others
If these are alien craftand the occupants are more than 100000 years ahead of us why would they want to talk to us. We can't talk to dolphins and whales which are probably as intelligent as we are. We can communicate with apes at a most basic level. The most compelling part of the Navy videos is the pilots communications and how shocked they are. That says volumes about what they are seeing.
Just wanted to say that I appreciate this interview. Phil is one of my favorite scientists. This is a real treat. Thank you J.M.G.
Yes, at some point, you will run out of proof that it's mundane; prosaic explanations do not fit the predictive data available.
Turning to dust …
I used to watch "The Invaders", an old B&W TV serial, when the parents were out. Like an early version of The X-Files.
When an alien died it just … turned to dust. There was no body that anyone could use as evidence.
So guys…you SAY there is NO evidence of real craft in our skies.. So even though the U.S. Pentagon has officially acknowledged the existence of UAPs.. the sheer volume of credible sightings documented for decades even by multiple credible witnesses, where does that fit in your feeble minds??
NANU NANU 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
The single biggest reason people believe in UFOs is because real life is depressingly boring. Productive work dominates adult life as a matter of necessity, the speed of light is too low for practical interstellar travel, even going for a single orbit around the earth costs tens of millions of dollars, magic doesn't exist at all, we've never met aliens or even other species of sapient Earthlings, the wondrous advances in technology that we get to experience on a daily basis are unbelievably expensive and require genius-level intelligence to use in truly creative ways, and the heroes we had as children frequently turn out to be nutjobs or sex offenders. People desperately want real life to be as amazing in adulthood as it seemed when they were children.
10 minutes in i k ow im not finishing this one. Sorry guy but people have enough constraints on their minds, phil can continue living in his box of laziness.
Fan of you both, found Phil the bad astronomer late 90s as a kid. Good times
Scenario 1: Aliens have a probe watching us and sending reports back to the home planet. We will not see such a probe because it's job is to observe and report, not to contact or communicate with us. This would explain why the UFO's (literally things we see in the air that we have not identified) are not these. Obvious location for the observation probe is the Near Side of the Moon. Since radio waves take years or centuries to get to the home planet, that is not how it is sending reports. Perhaps it is quantumly linked, communicating on the Spooky Action Network. In such a case, we do not have the technology to intercept such a signal. When we develop such a thing, it might be a bit like a person born deaf suddenly able to hear. If the probe is only a few feet in size, our astronauts would not see it, unless they landed right on top of it.
Scenario 2: Aliens decide to introduce themselves to us. Their starship comes out of lightspeed inside our solar system with results that would be clearly undeniable. They say to us, in English, Spanish, Russian, Arabic, Chinese, and other popular Earth languages, "Hello Earthlings! Don't worry, we come in peace. Yes, we can travel faster than light. Please observe while we demonstrate." And they flit around above and below the planetary plane clearly faster than light. "Now we will take our leave and come back perhaps 100 years from now and see how you are doing, now that you know a faster than light starship is possible and we are out in the galaxy somewhere." And off they go.
This is one of your best interviews. Much better and consistent sound-quality. Also Phil Plait is always a good listen.
lmao when he congratulates your segue