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In this video I discuss my experience using the mesh base layers and why I think Mesh Base Layers are Warmer Than Merino Wool and conventional synthetic layers
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Timestamps
0:00 Intro to mesh base layers
3:46 Sponsor of today’s video
5:04 Why did I choose a fish net base layer
5:57 How the base layer works
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Works like body hair. Aloows for moisture evaporation, but keeps a layer of warm air near your body.
Who's video is this copied from, The Bear Essentials or Oscar Hikes?
I remember back in the 80's rowing on the Thames Marlow Bucks the stuff we all used was Helly Hanson base layer very similar in function also Norwegian somewhat perforated . I use icebreaker living here in Australia now great for hot and cold weather and does not retain odour, great content mate 🏕👍
I used to wear a string vest and womens tights in the winter months when out on exercise in my army day's not the best look 😂😂 atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
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'Back to Basics'. String Vests .. something that some of us have known about from way back.
No fear, the 'Bean Counters' are going to latch onto this one very quickly, change their 'Mantra' and now 'drop' Merino Wool as quickly as they dropped it's predecessor, the then new-fangled 'Synthetic Hi-Wicking' Fabrics.
Back in the late 60's, I got a String Vest from a mate who did his National Military Service as a dog handler on an Air Force Base. The pilots wore them under their flight suits. True .. comfortable and very good insulators. Unfortunately, it got nicked some years later off the wash line.
Buy now .. before the price goes up through the roof.
Never knew…
Need some egg on the vest…
My 70 year old father in law has always been telling me "all this merino wool fancy pants material is a load of rubbish. Get a mesh vest". Haha maybe hes right
Hey Paul, ever tried a wool mesh baselayer? 😊
Like you I discovered them a few months ago and the super thermo is just brilliant – noticeable drier and thus warmer. I also read that a lot of pro cyclists wear them (not just in cold weather).
Great video Paul. Very informative. I'm 67 and this is the first I have heard of it. Thanks for this video.
This kind of shirts are very popular in Norway. For years I saw hikers in them, skiers in winter. Was always curious but never tried. Looks like can be a good addition for my hiking setup, particularly in winter when overheating and sweating is a huge issue. Thanks for the video.
In the summer would you wear it to regulate sweat & what would you wear over the top?
I can see millions of Jamaicans 🇯🇲 about to take up hiking 😂
Great geer Paul. I use these on long distance back packing also the Norwegian wool jumpers as you say years ago that’s all they used. Shop is in keswick next time your up there very good stuff from Norway good to listen to your video as always
grandad used to wear them in the ship yards many years ago
You need to read some older hiking books Paul! When I started hiking and climbing back in the 1960s string vests were de-rigour. Merino wool was almost unheard of and ridiculously expensive and synthetic vests hadn't appeared. String and mesh underwear was the only alternative to heavy, old-fashioned cotton (or scratchy wool). I only switched when Rohan brought out their base layers in the 70s(sadly no longer available) which were still mesh based but synthetic. But then they all seemed to disappear for a long time in the 1990s so I'm glad to hear they can be found again. Off to place an order…
Brings back memories of my old dad, swore by a string vest, me late mum called them passion killers 😅😂😅😂😅 thanks though, you take care my friend ❤️
Back in the day until around early 90s the RAF military aircraft firefighter was issued what we called strings (basically long sleeved string top and long johns) which was an insulating layer under our crash kit .
Oh look, like Rab C I've been doing it for years, amazing how things go in circles isn't it? Young uns, don't know they're born!
I just dont like the feeling on skin when warm and cold air mix together 😞.
Yeah i have mostly seen them used in the scandinavian countries. As you say, use them under a jacket (maybe with a jumper) in the summer and, in Greenland where i live atm, we use them under a normal baselayer – so you get the "wetsuit" effect with a layer of warm air trapped but with all the moisture moved out, so when you stop in -10 degrees the sweat doesnt freeze on your skin.
Hi mate what’s the red fleece you have on in some of your videos? It looks a different fleece to the standard polar ones please 👍🏻
When I was a kid one of my greatest fears was to meet my dad going to or from the bathroom in his string vest and string pants it was enough to put you off your breakfast
Got no idea about all this but if it's reasonable price then it's worth a try
This is exactly what I'm looking for, when hiking I sweat buckets and I am finding it hard to find a base layer that I get on with and that transports water vapour away from my skin. What do they fit like?
Nope, wasn't aware of the existence of mesh base layers until I watched this, Paul. They seem a fantastic idea for keeping you dry. Also the hoodie looks great, I've noticed Andy B wearing one on his outings. Definitely interested in acquiring both in the near future. Thanks for the heads up Paul.
Oddly enough, were were issued similar versions many years ago in the military, I never ever wore it, however the idea is sound to help trap air and warm you up. obviously the military version was always a bit crap.
I am interested to see how you get on with the Rab sleep mat, I’ve only used my stratosphere once and the valve is intermittently playing up causing it to deflate slowly through the night. 🙄
Cyclists been doing it for years, we call them a mesh and use a thin one in the summer under our cycling shirt so when you sweat it stops the shirt sticking to your skin, and in the winter use a thicker mesh as a skin layer then add merino base layer and other layers depending on temperature as it create a pocket of warm air between skin and base layer.
Be proudly kinky, your kink is the great outdoors.
I was using string vests in the 80's, in NZ while mountaineering, and worked well.
Thanks Paul
We used to wear string vests in the 70s before all the gear, woolly jumper over the top 😅
You are going to have us wearing knotted handkerchiefs on our heads next
Welcome to the club – if you remember did send you a link to Nordiclife and speak to Rhodri – but obviously went straight to the maker Brynje.
In the Army (1988) I was issued string vests and string underwear obviously the gusset was normal material 🙄😀. Worked really well. Just to note we had no waterproofs just a poncho which you used as a basha. I think around 1995 we had Gortex water proofs as well as new uniform and webbing. That’s probably why they called it 95 pattern webbing 🙄. Anyway great to see your videos 👍. By the way I was at the Eurovision in Birmingham years ago covering security for various reasons and met right said Fred, yes in his vest as well 😂😂
I had it when I were in the Danish Army in 1983. It was part of the standard Equipment.
The discount code HELM10 has expired. re string vests, i used to wear them in the 60's/70's as a kid, however my mum threw them away as they were for old men and unstylish. Thanks mum.
One month ago on 'Oscar Hikes' youtube channel, he tested a mesh base layer against other base layers and found the mesh one to be warmer and drier. It's well worth viewing
Great information – thanks for sharing! I remember wearing cotton mesh long underwear as there were no synthetic materials when I was growing up (and we couldn't afford wool-based gear). Looking forward to trying these newer mesh base layers👍🏼
How do the base layer and mid layer perform in the wind? Do you not loose the heat through a loose weave?
It’s not new….
A good Woolley jumper on top of your second layer is the best. Takes all the moisture away. Use double chunky wool, as it doesn’t itch. Old skool is the only way.
Get your missus to knit you one. Also, the British Army has been using a mesh type material for years. Climacool, or something like that. The sleeves are solid, but the body is mesh. I had one, a few decades ago.
All the best.👍🏾😉🇬🇧
My old grandad used to wear string vests. Now I know why!
I've been using woolmesh baselayers from Devold, Brynje and Aclima for years. They work well as midlayers too so I often wear two under my Ventile or waxed cotton outer layers. When I used Páramo, all of which I've now sold, I'd just wear a single woolmesh layer underneath. I'm not so keen on the polypropylene versions, finding the wool suits me better. With my current setup it's not uncommon to get home with completely dry baselayers. This stuff works.
Finally a YouTuber more popular than me finally seeing also into the mesh
String vest from the 60's
Paul, I erge you to try the fyallraven tents. The Abisko lite one is especially good, a bit like a Hilleberg Acto
What's happening to pod casts,nwt been uploaded for a while