There was a time when every English schoolchild learned about the Battle of Agincourt, a glorious victory over France. These days, it is an embarrassment.
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The problem with naming a military vessel after an ancient Greek hero who died from a vulnerable weakness that caused his death, is that the vessel is likely to to have the same problem… Invulnerable except for its Achilles heel.
Yes Simon. Breathes there the man with/ soul so dead who never to himself has said this is mine own my native land.
I think they should call the new submarine HMS Arrow, since Agincourt was mostly settled by arrows, and Achilles met his end due to an arrow wound.
Why not be honest about where your country is headed and name the thing Battle of Khandaq?
My Grand daughter is 17 years old and a few weeks ago I was talking to her about Charles Dickens, who’s he ? she replied. Apparently they were never learned of him at school. I was gobsmacked.
Was it around the time the parliament agreed there was no native or indigenous population of England?
" I mentioned it once , but I think I got away with it " 🤣
The English throne owned significant parts of what is now called France (also Sicily and parts of Italy and Spain), due to the Norman legacy. The growing French nation kept trying to steal the land (aided by the machinations of the corrupt Popes). So English kings kept going over there to win them back, until they realised the strategic and economic disadvantages outweighed the benefits.
In the 60's I remember our headmaster reading out about comemorative day including Trafalgar day…also my mothers birthday..
Ok , WATERLOO then 😁
They weren't backward at coming forward at Hastings were they? Oh no, 1066! 1066! 1066! Will we ever be allowed to forget it?
The process of slave-breaking involves brutalizing a people to demonstrate that they have no worth, no right to object, no right to say "no", no history, culture, or society that needs to be respected, that everything that is theirs is now someone else's, and that all their achievements were, in fact, crimes. How ironic the refrain, "Britons never shall be slaves." They are slaves. The Britons have been enslaved. What Briton, today, has a right to say "no" to his overseers, Kapos, or masters of another race? The fight now is for Britain's liberation.
I do hope that the person (or more likely, committee) which decided on this treacherous stupidity is made known to the public.
Edit: Ah. I see that it was apparently the 'Navy's Badging Committee'. I also see that 'the Committee does not choose the names; it has the role of an advisory body'. Then, 'The Committee makes its recommendations to the Board, including information on the history of the names. The Board will review that advice, and may accept it, may ask for further names or themes to be considered, or may reject the advice entirely and select different names. Once the Board has reached its conclusion on the best names and the Secretary of State has approved them, in the final stage the names are submitted to the Sovereign for royal approval; once that approval has been given, the names cannot ordinarily be changed.'
So the Sovereign approved this change of name. Cheerio, Chuck. No more bows from me.
What shall we rename London Waterloo, the Mayor of London loves renaming things.
Yes. All that is wrong. Weakness, cowardly, subservience. I am surprised a pencil pushing Labour lefty creep understands Agincourt.
Who killed Achilles? Perhaps the person tasked with suggesting a name has deliberately left a wry clue about why Agincourt has been renamed
My grandfather served on HMS Agincourt in WW1 and was proud to have done so.
Does anyone in they're right mind truly believe that the french would think twice about calling a ship, sub or any other vessel they had manufactured or bought 'agincout'….if they had been victorious ??… yet more woke bullshit….at least trump is sorting this kind of crap out in the u.s.a….doing away with d.e.i and A.A is just the beginning….
Not to mention Crecy. Name the sub, The Chindit. Or maybe the Bader.
I dearly love Great Britain but most especially England. It breaks my heart to see it going into a woke hell, a deadly fear of all the legal and illegal immigrants you do graciously took in.
If you don't fix your " Muslim " problem, you will cease to be any kind of great nation. Even now many of your best and brightest, your wealthy, your entrepreneurs, your young educated future are leaving for brighter opportunities elsewhere.
You need to tell the U .N. ,W.E.F, W.H.O to go straight to hell. Tell the E.U. that you wish them well and would like free and fair trade but they can keep their asinine laws,rules and regulations. Tell them to get out of your fishing waters.
You must destroy any thought of Net Zero and in the words of Donald Trump, drill baby drill. And, remember the Royal Navy ? You might give some thought to the institution.
In my native parlance: " It's what brung ya'll to the dance.
I don't know if Nigel Garage can be a new Margaret Thatcher but if you ever hope to regain your rightful place as the leader of western civilization, it's time for a change.
From Iowa……………………John
Winston Churchill planned his own state funeral. He insisted that the train taking his body to Bladon should leave from Waterloo… 'because De Gaulle will be coming!'
Why not name it "Mohammad"? Like most children born now in Britian. I mean, the ethnic suicide of the British peoples is hard to witness. Why draw this misery out? Best just get it over with so the rest of us can move on into the future.
Our government policy is to denigrate our culture and history. I for one am sick of this attitude. I am a Saxon Englishman and proud of it. Forward the revolution.
I never lost my pride in them my friend, and never will!
I can think of a few names,Trafalgar,Nelson,Churchill,Wellington,Cressy.
I am English but I have lived in France for many years. England has gone crazy. This is not happening in other countries. Be unapologetically English. Foreign people love it when we do. All of this self hate crap is destroying us.
HMS Zimbabwe anyone
They wanted to change the rail station Waterloo.
"Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries" will be its' colours motto.
Crecy?
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Bravo the successes of the English. Of course, you left out the Battle of Hastings, wherein the Normans defeated the Saxons. The Brits and the French are pretty much brothers by blood, often bad. Also, let's not forget that the last several centuries have given the Monarchy German cousins.
Hey, this is fun. Being an American, I appreciate the British culture and what they conferred on us and it's an honor being their ally.
We went over the channel in 1944 to sort things out, with a little help from a big friend 😅, still a good point
We need more PhD researchers, studying the Great Battle of Bongo-Bongo. 😮😮😁😁❤️❤️❤️
Ah those WELSH LONGBOWMEN still have their contribution rubbed out!
How about "HMS Goose Green"?
I'm surprised that nobody in Parliament has suggested 'HMS Rudakabana'.
Today's Britons think that Nelson's column was named in honour of Nelson Mandela.
Some insist that mud, well-placed stakes and the archers' 'coup de grace' daggers actually accomplished more than the longbow at Agincourt. But I'm sure that you, Simon, as a historian, are far more qualified than I to evaluate that.
I thought you were going to say it had been renamed "HMS Africa"!
The papers are saying this was changed on the King's say so. I do hope that's not correct.
Folk who go on that way, are not only treasonous..
Well, the 100 years war was pretty brutal, it’s rather hard to justify the English presence in France.
Somebody needs to teach the YouTube AI bot how to spell Agincourt (let alone know what it is.)
I was half way through before I recognised what aenor, ainor, ancor was. Ashing cor gave me a clue, but then reverted to aenor.
If AI can't do as well as a mediocre schoolboy on history and spelling, then I don't have much faith in its abilities on important things.
What is this conscience self guilt that Britain projects on to itself? I don't get it at all. It comes probably from the liberal elites about our history.
A bit of a stretch linking The Battle of Britain and D Day with a homicidal rampage through France. But there you go, you got there in the end.
According to the BBC News this morning it was our woke king who vetoed the name Agincourt so that it would'nt upset the French.
Weak King !!!
We visited Azincourt/Agincourt a while ago, we weren’t sure exactly where the place was, so we asked a local and it was meaningless to them, they had no idea what happened. There’s actually quite a good interactive museum there.
The French don’t pull back about 1066, the Bayeux Tapestry is on display. Jeanne D’Arc.
Do the French not listen to the 1812 overture?
Germany has brought back the tiger tank, and Britain is too sensitive to even name a submarine Agincourt. We truly are lost. It's ironic naming it Achilles because this overly sensitive self deprecating revisionist attitude towards our history and heritage is our societies Achilles heel.