On this episode, Brad and Eric talk about what armies are better suited for the Competitive, the Creative and the Unga Bunga types of player. Sometimes you wake up and choose violence. Sometimes you wake up and choose coffee au latte. Whichever is your mood for the day, the boys can help you decide which of the armies you need to dust off on that day.
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00:00 – Intro
01:30 – Timmy
02:40 – Johnny
03:40 – Spike
06:33 – These are generalizations
10:18 – Imperial and Chaos Knights
11:20 – Imperial Guard
12:46 – Ad Mech
14:13 – Sisters of Battle
15:32 – Grey Knights
16:23 – Thousand Sons
17:28 – Custodes
18:48 – Space Marines
19:24 – Chaos Space Marines
29:36 – Death Guard
21:34 – World Eaters
22:15 – Chaos Daemons
24:39 – Harlequins
25:55 – Craftworlds
27:17 – Drukhari
28:39 – Tyranids
29:52 – Genestealers
31:17 – Necrons
33:11 – Orks
34:06 – Tau
35:27 – Votann
36:46 – Outro
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I pick my army as a Timmy, create combos within that army to appeal to my Johnny, and fine-tune the custom faction rules/strategems/secondaries with a Spike mentality.
Big Johnny player. I will be reading a ton of rules and one will catch my eye, and then I will build a whole meme list around that specifically. Weird Forge World character has a unique rule? That deserves a whole army to take advantage of it.
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"Spike…finds a way" sounds like a perfect description of Tyrannids thematically.
Im building a mega infantry focused guard army, I don't care if tanks are good or not I find it fun flooding my deployment zone with huge masses of infantry. I don't like Orks or Tyranids tho I love the aesthetics of guardsmen.
Love the World Eaters the armor the style is so freaking awesome!
i should change my name to Timmy
Maybe it's just me, but I think being into 40k at all makes you a bit of a Timmy. The aesthetic and the setting are inherently built in a way that it seems like it's just picking which flavor of cool you find.
I think I'm a bit of a Timmy/Johnny in equal parts, I love specific combinations but I don't even really care if they are sub optimal, it's the fact that I get to do something that tickles the parts of my brain that love cool aesthetics mixed with multiple interacting parts. For example I want to run Grey Knights because they do psychic, shooting and melee, and have all that variety with a sweet aesthetic, but I also want a list that's all paladins, purifiers, and characters because of the lore behind those two brotherhoods and how they have such respect within the unit.
I’m a hard core Johnny with spike leanings but I’m all in on necrons. I really think they have a ton of builds and wierd interactions. Tons of combos under the hood, just warriors and their reanimations are like a separate play style. Otherwise you all are spot on 😊
I used to play purely hyper competitive modern and then legacy, I recommend that every spike out there find another part of the hobby they love. Magic burnt me out, because I couldn’t put in the time to get any better, so I don’t play much magic anymore. I went to warhammer where I read one book about the guard fell in love and built the guard army my heart told me to instead of the meta. Some day I’m sure I’ll build a super comp stomp tau list or something someday when they are broken. If it’s a hobby and not a job, Find the hobby you love and then engage your competitive side because when a hobby is purely competitive it’s becomes a chore in my experience.
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i picked blood angels cause They Are Sick as i am As someone with 18 Different conditions I feel Like Blood angels fit that mold in the same way Kinda I mean i dont have the red thirst or the black rage But its damn close
I was thinking days to which army to get but this video helped ! So now I need to decide between Grey Knights and Thousand Sons 🙂
Your Chapters break-ups are a little broken. CSM chapter encompases CSM, Daemons, and Elves. Then you have Death Guard listed right after that, even tho it comes before CSM
Best podcast yet 🎉
Imagine having a group of players that are both timmy and spike then bitches and moans when they dont win. Thats my group lol. I cant seem to find other players but these.
Me, a certified card carrying Timmy who plays Tau and TSons.
My two armies are Custodes and Chaos Knights. Timmy all the way.
I had my Johnny moment with my Int. Chaplain with as much leadership debuffs as possible.
Built in +1 to combat attrition, emperors judgement Relic to block rerolls (with what was then permanently transhuman inner circle) and take morale at "disadvantage", then fear incarnate warlord trait for -1 leadership and another -1 to combat attrition.
This guy was reliably making Necrons run away and claimed a ton of cp in insane bravery. He could also take a punch to the face real hard and if you pay for the extra DA Trait stubborn tenacity he'll be sticking around until morale no matter what you do.
My favourite character to field in local clubs. "Can I deliver him vs whatever I come across"
I am very much a mix of Timmy and Jonny, but I love my sisters more than I probably could any other army I could get my hand on. Their stupid over-the-top catholic vibe is just too fun, they have ORGAN TANKS! And their stupid kill team has most of its agents not actually having much of a weapon, just cups, flags, boom boxes… and somehow they win sometimes^^
Then again, I get most of my Timmy boost in kitbashing and enjoying to just deploy my custom murder ladies
I love seeing the crossover as someone who plays Magic and previously played 40k, and am now looking at getting back into 40k with 10th ed.
Games Workshop: Space marines are the most autistic beings in the galaxy.
Poorhammer: Hold my chew toy.
Fun in challenge and victory, fun in expression and innovation, fun in cool and stupid.
Spike and Timmy want the power, Timmy and Johnny want to do crazy shit, Johnny and Spike want to master the rules.
Im personally like 70% timmy 25% johnny and 5% spike but i really wanna play admech because there aesthetic is just so feckin cool
The three player types are essentially: Experience — Expressive — Mastery
As a Timmy i started with Sisters because i loved the look Im not sure how well ill play it. But i just started building my knight army lol.
As a Timmy Sisters player, Nuns with guns and torture mechs.
I'm a proud Timmy. I love Death Guard. They're hot garbage in game right now but the models are SO cool. Mortarion is the best model GW has ever designed.
This was a really interesting video. I’d love to see a psychographics video of all of the SM chapters (loyal and traitor). Keep up the great work lads! The Emperor protects!
im timmy for nids, but not cuzthe big bugs, but cuz the small cute bugs xD
I picked Salamanders
You two had to try so hard to not just say spike is the worst one
I have been a Khorne player since 3rd edition…. I am a big part Timmy lol. I fucken love my khorne @~@. I cant switch off of World Eater or Daemons cause I fricken love the HQs D:
Hey you say Sisters is anti timmy, but me and my 3 units of 20 Battle Sisters fully decked out with special weapons has something to say about that
I feel like I'm probably 45% Timmy and 45% Johnny and like 10% Spike. I really like running fluffy games like for my SM I like to bring a wide array of the Primaris Options if I can, and for my Druhkari I like run real space raids rather than focus on one part. I also really like custom stuff, I love the narrative custom hero stuff and making my own subfactions and stories behind them. But part of me still wants to win, so if my opponent is bringing some daemon primarch or big chungus unit I'll bring a knight with my SM or some Reapers with my Druhkari. Etc but winning is the least important to me of the three
I can argue that Astra Militarum is Spike only!
As a Chaos Daemons player….. no chapter for me T_T
But I would say I'm mostly a Timmy style player with some Johnny mixed in. I don't really care about winning, I care more about fluff and theme, and I LOVE variance. I tend to only play mono-god lists for those very reasons, it's not the strongest way to play them, but I enjoy it.
note I actually got into Daemons during 5th edition, and honestly it was simply the cheapest army I could start and I thought the daemons lore was cool, they also had really weird gameplay mechanics back then, when they would deploy the entire army by deep strike instead of starting on the board.
This whole paradigm doesn't fit with Warhammer like it does with magic because it will always be a miniatures collection hobby first and foremost. If you aren't collecting based on the miniatures themselves you WILL lose interest in the hobby over time.
None of that is contingent on playstyle. Not saying it's irrelevant, but it's certainly a secondary concern.
Not exactly sure that the Timmy, Johnny, Spike player types really transfer into 40k factions. As somebody who is very "Johnny" like, army's like Tau and Orks are great for my playstyle due to being able to field a lot of different themed lists and trying to combo units to work together in interesting ways (Tau in particular is all about synergy between units and within a unit via their wargear options, especially back in 6/7th). Frankly armies like Grey Knights can be difficult to enjoy as much due to their limited unit roster making it hard to make interesting combos or themes. Psychic powers are useful for that synergy focused gameplay but a very limited roster is a huge detriment.
Can you guess what army i got?
In my case, Normaly Timmy or Spike get excited about a list (because is fun, silly, or good) then Jhonny comes in to make the list cohesive and thematic.
And spike comes last to swap some stuff because we're going against chaff units, We Need More Shots!!
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Tyranids of course
Well guess I'm definitly a Timmy, but I mean… who don't love big and badass units ¯_(ツ)_/¯
As a long time magic player trying to get started in Warhammer, this was very helpful. I am extremely johnny, with a fair bit of timmy in there. Don't care about winning, I like to do interesting shit, I like when things are unexpected and I like to be far off meta. This put Thousand Sons onto my radar. (Drukhari, Votann and Sisters are my main considerations. Waiting on 10th reveals)
Classic Spike. Doesn't even just destroy you. Finds the most financially responsible and convenient way to destroy you.
Necrons are timmy/johnny for me. I like the technological style of the necrons and their lore, but I also desperately want them to have more rules where their tech can just fuck with the laws of physics
TIMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!