Would you like to stay at an 80s style inspired B&B complete with working arcade full of games to play…..I think most would! Did you know the Atari ST really was amazing as part of MIDI network? A new video shows just how good it was/is. Finally, a simple question sparked a discussion about Halo. Is it retro yet?
All this and your answers to the Community Question Of The Week.
Don’t forget that we are taking a two week break for various reasons but we will be back with more retro chat to brighten your Saturday mornings. See you soon.
The new issue of Pixel Addict is just about to hit the shops (might take a few weeks to get to Australia, sorry Chris) but you can order your copy direct from https://www.pixel.addict.media/ where you can also set up a subscription. Relive those days where you used to sit by the front door waiting for the next issue of Amstrad Action, Zzap or Amiga Format to be delivered.
By the way, did you spot the easter egg in this week’s thumbnail? 🙂
Escape From Colditz link: https://web.archive.org/web/20160409151825/https://sites.google.com/site/colditzescape/
TWIR Raiders Link: https://highriser.itch.io/space-raiders-kempston-edition
00:00 – Show Opening
15:40 – PnP Air BnB
Story Link: https://www.aarp.org/travel/travel-tips/lodging/info-2023/80s-themed-arcade-airbnb-rental.html
AirBNB Link: https://www.airbnb.co.uk/rooms/42655772?source_impression_id=p3_1689186532_dCMkJRgz0BnqwJQl
32:16 – MIDI ‘mazing
Story Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpMMwc0Mn0Y
45:47 – Is it Retro?
Story Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/thisweekinretro/comments/14rm4yx/is_this_retro/
1:01:47 – Community Question of the Week
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We have CEX in Ireland too…..where you can buy an overpriced PS2 for over 100 Euros!!!….the prices are a rip off.
You know it's Saturday when… LOVE THIS SHOW
come for the retro stay for the population density comparisons
Poor Robert Smith, must have been going through this kind of bullying his whole life… probably why he wrote all those sad songs.
Halo was never a Mac game. It was shown on Mac first. But Bungie always intended to release it on PC (before that all changed, joining up with MS for the xbox). The last Mac only Bungie game was the first Marathon.
2 weeks, bloody hell. Is T J Hooker or The Rockford Files still on Saturday morning?
Ah… Retro Recipes…
I used to love their content… But it's full of absolutely humourless and annoying jokes now… I really miss the old format where that kind of thing was a rarity. It would cut down their editing time too.
What's really pushed me over the edge recently though, is that they had the gall to ask for donations for their baby, just after they've blown a bunch of cash on a new KITT replica? WTF? 🤷🏽♂️
Seems so disingenuous.
They do seem like lovely people, but that recent act really has me questioning things.
Always love seeing the little behind the scenes clips. Great way to start my Saturday. And Myst is point and click 😂
yes Halo is retro as is the xbox, the original xbox is a pentium 3 system, retro enough said
ohh no. Glitch in the matrix. Black cat leaves the room then Dave & Dot are stuck in a loop.
when i got my first house in 1999 i started collecting what is now retro, when megadrives, amigas etc could be had for nothing
Thanks Duncan. I have no idea who you are but the show wouldn't be the same without you
22:00 American homes in the 80s had the aesthetic of an amalgamation of the decades since the home was built and when the family was established. TV shows were ideal to 80s designers and lacked the typical 40s-70s that would normally shine through the wood paneling.
56:59 Test Drive Unlimited?
I hope you all have a lovely break, well deserved!
How many great toons were made with the Atari ST. Norman of Skint records owes his career to the ST.
I've always been retro. New technology bores me.
Loving Dave's cat seemingky wanting to be on camera.
Robert Smith's data backup solution just proves that prevention is better than a cure
Testa di merda is a dirty phrase in Italian, put it in Google Translate lol.
the retro debate is fascinating, i think dave nailed it when he said someone who's 30 now will look back to the games they were playing at 13-15years old and to them those games will be retro. it's much the same for me, i look back to games i played between 1982-94 and regard those as retro.. anything after that i'm not sure classes as retro.. it doesn't have that nostagia factor for me.
Atari ST Into the Eagles Nest was difficult. I played it for hours as a kid. I tried it again recently (age 42), original disk on the same original hardware. It’s still difficult.
Since Dave is working on audio tweaks, on the audio podcast Dave inhaling in between sentences is coming through just as loud as his words.
I’ve tried to adjust on my podcast app, but to no avail. Not sure if a windscreen would help or just Tay Zonday it and turn away from the mic to breath in.
Thanks for a great show!
Elite in 2D would be Starflight (DOS) and ported to various machines till 1991, which more or less was Elite in 2D
What is retro? Year 2000. My family got our first PC. A few months later it became the first machine we had with internet access and the friendly beast that was the Amiga was no longer the centre of our computing lives. Although consoles still compete with one another, the great age of the Commodores, Ataris, Acorns and Amstrads was over and only Macs and PCs had survived the war. They use similar components and most of the big programs are available for both. Everything's 24 bit and triangle based and those little nerdy camps where each person backed their own preferred platform and talked about the latest clever tricks that some new custom chip inside the next new model about to be released by their chosen company added to the hardware game are gone. Now the only discussions about "innovation" are about how badly Microsoft's going to screw up the taskbar the next time you update Windows.
Thanks a lot for a great episode gentlemen! As to Chris point of changing countries: I've been changing them since my 17th when I left home ( something like Uzbekistan -> Russia -> UK -> China -> Russia -> USA) and I thought I lost my sense of home completely. But after I bought that old soviet bk-0010-01 on ebay (from Slovakian seller) I suddenly remembered how it was back in 1990-1994 when i was a teenager with my first computer…so I think I know now what Chris is talking about.
(I'll be really missing you gents next two weeks and thank you Duncan for editing and adding your sense of humor to this show ! Please well re-charge Duncan!)
I was very young In 80s but some of the modern TV shows or movies taking place in the 80s (goldbergs, hot tub time machine for ex) was always a pet peve cause it feels like 'ok let's take this very specific flashy fashion from a specific year in a specific part of the country that certain people did and just pretend like everyone everywhere looked like that all decade'… mean while I watch the goonies, those ski movies, early married with children, back to future and other actual 80s stuff and it always seems like not only did plenty of people have plainer clothes (wasn't Marty in faded flannels half the time) but the counter culture with spikey haired punks or the hard rock/metal blasting leather wearing young bikers are all always missing from the new 80s portrayals.
2.5d is retro. 3d is not retro. PnP = nostalgia is a helluva drug.
Thank you for mentioning Companions of Xanth. I played this on my cousin’s computer when I was but a boy. It left an impression but the name escaped me long ago. Finally I can bask in the nostalgia of it.
Hopefully I'm not the only one who gets excited when his favorite of the housekeeping jingles gets played in a particular week?
SCALA MM actually wasn't used just for signage. It was equally popular for interactive kiosk applications. That packed in CD32 in the desktop case was likely SCALA's turn-key kiosk solution. Much easier to just drop a full unit in as it's already 'shock-proofed' to a degree.
Thanks Duncan! My favourite retro podcast in large part because of how well it's put together.
Solar Winds was kind of Elite in 2D, not really but it's what came to mind.
Great Episode as always! Does anybody have the link to the YouTube video mentioned at the end in the last community of the week (the top-down spear of destiny)?
I can't seem to find the previous week's QofW on the SubReddit
I have really come to appreciate the atari st more over the years. I was always an amiga fan boy back in the day for all the reasons that we all know. And I used to rubbish the Atari st back in the day versus the amiga because of the difference in game graphics and sound etc. But I have come to massively respect the midi capabilities of the st over the years. And I never used to admit this back then but I will now. The looks of the ST were great. The amiga too. But the st definitely looked slick. I would argue now that both machines needed each other. That healthy competition has helped inbed both machines in my nostalgic memories. They are both iconic machines of the 16 bit era for different reasons. I currently have a 500+, I would love to own a falcon or an ste as well as my amiga. A younger version of me would never have even entertained that.
There's a difference between nostalgia and retro. You can get nostalgic about something that happened not that long ago, but retro is about outdated tech that isn't really being used anymore by the mainstream. Using that definition, I think a 20 year rule makes the most sense. Halo is retro, but Fallout 3 and Oblivion aren't – but it's coming up soon. 🙂
I think a game being retro is not just about age but how different it is form new games. like i consider the Wii retro but not the PS3 because there is nothing like the Wii on the market now. also for some reason they don't make a lot of rts games anymore. while in the 2000s they were everywhere so i consider a 2008 rts as retro but not a 2008 FPS game. and if you played mmorpgs you know that mmorpgs where very different before 2010 in terms of game desgin. modern mmo devs refuse to have mechanics similar to 2000s mmos despite the players asking for it. and they make sure to modernize all of the older mmos too.
Also you asked when i first got nostalgic i am much younger than you guys but i remember when i was 10 or 11 in the 2000s and being frustrated with cd's and DVDs because of scratches and they stopped selling vhs and cassettes.
Cut my teeth working with Atari STs back in the late 80s all the way into the mid 90s, both learning in secondary school & college and then my real job as a recording engineer. Syncing Ataris to 24 track tape machines, via a SMPTE sync unit, enabled us to work with dozens of outboard keyboards and samplers and a large mixing desk. As much as Atari was mired and a joke in the school playground, with me being an Amiga Stan back then (still am!) it was wickedly ironic that the Atari STs real power was in its professional MIDI functionality; with the ability to make professional records. Great memories. ❤