We go through how the events of Game of Thrones would change if Stannis Baratheon WON the Battle of the Blackwater. What would Robb’s next move be with Stannis now on the Iron Throne? How would this shape the War of the Five Kings and the actions of the Greyjoys? How does Catelyn Stark still find a way to screw things up? Does Bran Stark still have the same arc with the Three Eyed Raven up north?
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Well once Stannis becomes king after taking king's landing he will probably take a month or two to rebuild his forces before marching north. I think he will take the north with a strong fresh army meaning he will now have all 7 kingdoms under his rule even Drone because he took out the Lannisters.
The Hound at the wall would be hilarious. He would dunk on Jon Snow so hard and constantly complaining how cold it is. It would be great to watch.
I think Robb would ask Stannis for a couple things. He would ask to get Ice back to get his sisters back and for Joffrey's head. Stannis would have no problem with that and then Robb will bend the knee.
I could see Robb marrying Rickon to Stannis’s daughter in a wedding through her line as a way to shore up the alliance
Only thing I want to know is whether Melisandre's rack will be bigger. Ngl, I'm rather content with her "default" size, so to speak, but just curious what the ramifications of such a big victory would be. I see you've intentionally kept it ambiguous in the thumbnail this time.
Marcella is probably still going to marry Tristane because he's not the heir of house martel. I can see Sansa being married to either Loris or Willas Tyrell
Lol this intro made me cringe so hard, god you guy's are gay.
based stannis
Stannis would have thanked Lord Frey for dealing with the usurper Robb Stark and then hanged Lord Frey for being a traitor and would have built a bridge from dead Frey corpses in full view of The Twins.
Stannis wouldnt care about the wedding pact because he would see walder Frey as an abomination due to his inbreeding with his family
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Best joke I’ve heard in a long time, had to go back and listen to it again lmao.
Didn’t like the unga bunga ulalalala bit. Way to cross racisms
What if Jamie never lost his hand?
Who is more powerful, the Iron Bank or White Walkers?
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I think that if our boy had win, the Lannister would be no more for sure, but politically i don't know, i suppose he would be able to hold a grip on the kingdom tho
If Stannis won the Blackwater and became king, I think he's ultimately fucked still.
Jamie would instantly be free of the kings guard- as the Lannisters would just say the king is dead and Stannis is a usurper. That frees Jamie up as heir to Casterly Rock and to marry Margerie- cementing the Westerland/Reach wombo combo.
To add, Littlefinger's bringing in the vale as practically regent. That brings 3 kingdoms against Stannis. Littlefinger and Tywin are probably just as capable of getting the Freys to red wedding Rob in return for the Riverlands, backed by their massive alliance. That would have the 2 for 1 of getting the North out the picture as a potential ally for Stannis, and either securing, or massively destabilising the Riverlands.
Dorn is doing is own thing and definitely have no love for Baratheons, so he's not getting much love there either.
Next you have the not insignificant issue that Stannis is a heretic. Look how much shit the High Sparrow causes in the capital for someone following his own religion, let alone someone who doesn't. That's a huge issue for Stannis to overcome, and only gets worse the more he comes to rely on the Melisandre.
You bring up the shadow babies and faceless men as a bit of a Stannis cheat code, but are they really? The faceless men are, in theory, just as available to Stannis as everyone else. But that logic, what's to stop Baelon hiring a bunch of faceless men to kill everyone else and become king? It's silly and obviously there is some in lore reason this wouldn't happen (either the faceless men are picky contractually or just not able to easily kill high profile targets). Next shadow baby, again, there has to be a limit there as if not, why doesn't Melisandre just rule the universe shitting out babies to kill anyone that stands in her way? Kings blood is finite- might answer a few threats at best but Stannis has a shit tone coming towards him.
Including Danny. I know you guys absolutely shit on Danny like she's nothing but she's got a lot of shit around her. I don't think faceless men are getting at her (I'm sure Yunki and all the others that tried to kill her would have thought of that). Shadow assassin is a definite play here, but with the dragons and general magical bullshit around Danny associated with fire magic, not sure that would work.
I fucking love Stannis- absolutely the true king, but the decks stacked against him. That's why he's such a badass- he's not playing because he's got a good shot at winning, he's playing because he has to. I think he's still got a shot at it, but it definitely isn't as sunshine and roses as your scenario sets out.
38:42 If R'hollor doesn't take issue with polygamy and he doesn't worship the seven any more anyway…
If stannis takes kings landing he immediately sends ravens to the seven kingdoms in order let the players know he has the symbols of legitimacy. Cersei is sentenced to death for cuckolding Robert the king and treason. All of cersei's children are executed as abominations. Tyrion is kept as hostage 16:45 . The Tyrells reevaluate their relationship with Tywin and leave the with the lannister host to fend for themselves.
Stannis returns Ice but maintains custody of sansa until robb bends the knee. To which he proposes rickon be his ward as hostage/potential marriage candidate for shireen. The starks accept because hes granted them justice and say what you will about stannis he's trustworthy. With the starks comes the tullys
Stannis lets the martells know he intends to destroy the tywin lannister and his host decisively and seeks their support. They refuse to bend the knee but put their army in a defensive position cutting off tywin from returning to casterly rock and with baratheon tully and stark army converging on the tywin he is taken off the board.
Littlelittle finger goes to the vale, and tries to liase with the tyrells who rebuffed stannis and still want to place margery on the throne but know stannis is off the table when it comes to manipulation.
Tyrion is installed as head of house lannister, he bends the knee. Jaime lannister is forced to take the black.
With four out of the seven kingdoms and the martells looking joing post tywin death. The immediate threats are the tyrells who want margery on the throne but know stannis hasnt forgotten their usurption. Littlefinger who knows his dishonest ways will likely catch upto him. And the fact that stannis even as he builds alliances is pondering how exact judgement and justice on half the realm. If we get to the point in his reign where a white walker is brought before him. He does the right thing and defends the realm
There's no way the lords in the Vale would accept Lysa declaring the Vale for the Lannisters.
A video about the Blacwater who barely mention the most important faction ,the Tyrells
That's a crime ,you two deserve to make the next video from the Wall
If stannis won we wouldnt have gotten the terrible season 7 and 8
We dont have the feats or comparisons in the book.
My man, you havent read them. shush
On The Hound, recall Bran sees a vision of what is widely believed to be him, Gregor and Jaime when he's having his first Green Dream on GoT. So he must have some importance in the big picture. So Mel could see something in the flames regarding him.
Plus Fire-Priestess and Fire-Phobe would be a great comedy duo.