In this Genshin Impact Theory video, I will dissect and theorize on who the MYSTERIOUS VOICE is in the new Genshin Impact Caribert Archon Quest. Dainsleif left us on a HUGE cliffhanger, but I will attempt to answer the question on who really is behind the SECRET voice, the Loom of Fate and the TRUE powers of the Abyss Order. What is the big secret and how does this affect the rest of the story in Genshin Impact? Dainsleif needs to STOP leaving us on a cliff hanger every single years.
This is a cultivation of various theories and ideas myself and my community came up with during our Theory Thursday livestreams after finishing Genshin Impact Version 3.5 Archon Quest Caribert. Interestingly, it seems to be connected to the three gods of Sumeru. If you enjoyed this video, please make sure to support the channel by clicking like and subscribing! And join us on our livestreams! Thank you everyone!
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00:00 The Mysterious Voice
01:10 The Forbidden Knowledge
02:45 King of Khaenri’ah
04:20 Primordial One and Outlander
05:35 Deceased King
06:47 False God
08:41 Misdirections
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I HATE DAINSLEIF FOR LEAVING WITH A CLIFFHANGER FOR ANOTHER YEAR.
Yes, I also think this quest was a prologue for a massive event about to take place.
1. Scaramouche now joined our side (I think), so he'll surely get more involved in the main story since he has even tampered with Irminsul
2. Alot of people were saying that Celestia would be right above Fontaine by the time we reach there.
3. This quest generally felt like a prologue
4. Dain said he wants time to think, he didn't say we would part ways yet (I think)
5. There's this serpent in Sumeru which a lot of people theorize to be similar to Orobashi and we might a huge lore dump since Serpents and Snakes are associated with Gods and Celestia (according to some theories I've heard)
Do you guys know anything else that would happen very soon in the main quest? open to leaks but don't look if you don't like 😉
So islandxd supports the deshret theory. alright then.
I mean yeah it's cool and mihoyoverse likes they're details, but yeah I just don't get the feeling. I think it's more like…. an example is the Greek primodial god Tatarus, yeah I think it's more like that where the abyss is literally a living being.
Check black knights drop item
My issue with the voice not being King Irmin is because the description in his Statuette (dropped by Black Serpent Knights) fits the Crystal perfectly.
I think the voice I tanking to present day traveler, Dein says that time isn't a limitation for him
I thought it was not possible that it is King Deshret because he's only related to Sumeru, but I also thought about Kaenri'ah being in the depths of Sumeru.
As far as I know, the only other person directly called a sinner in the game is Rhinedottir/Gold, she’s referred to as “The Great Sinner”
Honestly, the moment I heard that voice I thought it was pierro from the harbingers bc it sounds like him and it would make sense for dain to know him bc pierro is from khaenriah, also I'm sure pierro was supposed to be a royal mage from khaenriah, so him saying he is not god would also make sense.
my only suspects for the voice are King Irmin, The Second Who Came, or the second descender who would be a counterpart to the Heavenly Principles, though the first two descenders could be the Primordial One and the Second Who Came or related to them.
If he’s a sinner he might be a Qiqi main
meanwhile me who thought it could be kaeya secretly or scara since it kinda sounds like them and bc I don’t trust kaeya in the slightest. plus scara talks about his sins a lot and is always using that word but I mean I guess this makes more sense
Except it makes no sense that Khanriah worshipped king Deshret. The timeline doesn't work.
Those who nowed down weren't spoken to, because they don't hear him, because they worship and he says not to. Only the twin called him "a sinner", and when she told the Aristocrat this he denied it amd was offended, clearly showing he couldn't hear the voice.
Welp, could "The Sinner" be Phanos, the primordial one. If we say that he lost to the second descender, you could say that he got sealed. Well, and you can say that his a Purple crystal because its a seal cast upon him. But, this is just my opinion.
What a great video! Keep it up! I’m so glad someone talks about deshret’s sussiness.
I think King Irmin might not be human or “pure blooded khaenriahan” at all, it seems like the alberich clan saw themselves as nobility and royalty, but in hidden strife event kaeya’s dad tells him to never forget the alberichs aren’t really royalty. I don’t think people were aware of king irmin at all,.
I wrote a whole theory about how deshret could be irmin a while back- and there’s actually more evidence than u might think- on Reddit so it’s so so nice to see someone finally talk about it😂 thanks for the video Island! ❤
According to recent leaks the Abyssal power is far more powerful than the 7 elements because it has the power to imprison the gods elements, and this is further emphasized by enjou in enkanomiya that Abyssal power is so dangerous because of its ability destroy light and elemental energy…whatever that thing was…clearly poses a major threat to the world of teyvat..the Abyss order might be far more dangerous than we thought, and to think Rheindottir's creations have terrorized the 7 nations and their archons for so many years even killing some of their loved ones in the process…
That voice sound like Kaeya but distorted
Given that corruption is related to forbidden knowledge and the second who came went to war with the primordial one theres a possibilty that this "entity" is possessing various figures much like dvalin was possessed by the abyss order. So king deshret could have become possessed and not really himself anyway. So it could still be the second who came or an echo of him. The second who came being a descender may very well know of the twins, also in everything you hear deceit is very strong possibility so there could be lies hiding in here that we're assuming are truths. Possibly the line "I am not a god i'm just a sinner" itself could be the entity playing misdirection. I still think the sinner whatever it is is responsible for BOTH curses and not the gods or the defender of heavenly principles. I'm thinking the abyss twin has some of the corruption inside them which is why the defender wouldnt let them leave.
It’s the new husbando
Also the small purple diamond appears in the Removable (by light) walls in the chasm which seems to be the symbol of this entity, same as the structure on Stormterrors' (dvalin's) back. Other theorists have said also that it's likely the truth of the world IS that it's a virtual reality all a construction and "descenders" are literally people from the real world that have logged into the game 🙂 Nahida's NATURE abilities are similar in design to the hypostasis and the CUBES of the sustainer which are all symbolic of the CONSTRUCTED nature of teyvat. Again all conjecture.
what if the sinner is pierro? the only evidence i have is that their voices sound familiar, but i cant imagine it being anyone else tbh
King deshret's crystal form in the animatic is pure, but the crystal in sumeru is covered in black chunks and chained up. Is he corrupted? Maybe he has black scales like the people with Elazar and maybe that's why he is corrupted. The gods are not affected by Elazar, so if Deshret is not a god, he would show up here with black marks and formations on his crystal body.
I theorized that the voice of the crystal is actually the human that fell in love with a seelie and was punished by celestia- thus also the seelies loosing their divine forms as well. Why should the human not be punished as well? His sin was loving something close to that of a god. That's just my theory.
THIS IS JUST A THEORY. A GENSHIN THEORY!!! SEE U IN THE NEXT VIDEO
If you’re a Genshin theorist then you probably know that Genshin takes inspiration from Christianity I feel like the abyss is supposed to represent hell and khaenriah was a underground nation and they were considered sinners and Celestia heaven but I think both Celestia and the abyss are evil and The greater sinner is I think it’s supposed to represent the devil
Its obviusly hes a fallen Angel if fight hipotasis they are related to angels so he failed or something and become a sinner and thats why he has that form a twisted form of a hipotasis
Want to point out something, the eye that symbolizes king deshret and the star shaped designs seen on khaenriah are similar
So the Scarlet King in the past changes his form to acquire the "Forbidden Knowledge" he seeks and decends to the abyss while helping to cleanse Sumeru of the corruption at the sources the intaking it. So the Golden Slumber is NOT where he is…. boy did he bamboozle his people.
Also this crystal is in the middle of Sumeru
It makes sense…
But I can't depart from the idea that there is great conscious entities in the Abyss with the (insidious) power to defy the divine. If only to maintain the status quo between the light (sovereigns dragons) and the Abyss before the arrival of the Primordial One…
Perhaps are they even the 4 Shades…
And, I only just read the Manga and came across the "possession" of Colley. So I think it can be something like this (dark flame serpent who talk in her mind to pull her in the dark side ^^). Or it's just the remains of conciousness of Orobashi injected by the Fatui…
But your assumption of King Deskret talk to me.
As Zhongli once said, stone can contain memory, clearer stone like crystal can even contain conscious.
I don't know if you noticed but the cutscene itself debunked the "purple Deshret Crystal is chained crystal"
Because just a few frames later you can see the crystal turn blue which we have seen before as the crystal being purified
I think this "Sinner" is like some kind of Fate Keeper, as in like he'll make sure everything will go as it is Fated to be. Maybe that's why he gave Clothar the powers to recover Cariberts mind because Carriberte is Destined to become the Lome of Fate
Dain knowing this Sinner might also be because he is the One who Made Dain the Bough Keeper
Another candidate for this i have seen the Outlander who caused the end of the Seelie race
He was an Outlander so power from beyond
He did cause the end of an entire race so "Sinner"
And him knowing the traveler's fate could either be him being like the traveler (who is to defeat Dain and be the weaver of Destiny, and Fate)
OR
Because he has already experienced the fate of an Outlander and expects that it will end the same
Something strange about this voicelines is strange
He tells the twin/traveler their fate to become the "Transcendent One" and that they will rise beyond the Fate bestoved to them
But never says how it will happen or end
The line is "I will shed a tear at the End of Time as I gaze back on your Life"
He doesn't say at the end of your Time or Your Life but at the End of TIME
Its Lucifer aka primordial one
i thought it was Dottore. maybe it was one of his clones. like he sent his clone back in time to mess with Scaramouche.
Idk if people know this or not but king deshret is derived from king dashrat who is the father of lord ram in hinduism which is most popular religion in india and summeru is based on it so maybe it will be related probably
King Deseret is not a god cuz he rejected the Heavenly Principles' offer of being an archon. Nabu (Goddess of flowers) brought the forbidden knowledge to Sumeru when King Deseret begged for her help to help him go against Celestia for his people. Nabu was the last of her kind
the seelie peoplethat was killed by the Shades. If Nabu revealed anything about the Forbidden Knowledge she will die. Nabu died for King Deseret's ambition and because of that he build the eternal oasis dedicated to the Goddess of Flowers using the Forbidden Knowledge creating alot of jinns to keep the place frozen. King Desert went mad cuz of the Forbidden Knowledge and the priests ask Rukkhadevata for help then she get rid everything related to the Forbidden Knowledge but gets infected because of it.maybe the thing when the voice says that he knows their fate (to the ones bowing down) it might be because he knows about khaenriah fall and the fate of the people of khaenriah themselves
Very good, very good. Thanks for nice vid
9:23 But the voice asked "Why don't you bow down" if I remember correctly, solid proof that it was talking to sibling