I honestly think it was genius the way they show off just how much Horus has lost it via how he thinks he’s gonna rebuild the mornivaul with Big E, Dorn, sangy, and Valdor. Not only is he insane to think that they would just turn around and join him,but the thought of “The Emperor being the avatar of Slenaash” is one that could only run through the mind of a madman. 😂
I haven't read the book, but the idea that all he has to do is say the words "blood for the blood god" will make him fall to chaos is ridiculous. being trapped in a desert wouldn't turn him into a bloodthirsty maniac, it wouldn't change his morals and ideals. to turn a guy like Dorn to chaos you'd need to convince him that it's the right thing to do somehow. no amount of torture would work.
It would be kind of funny if Rogal Dorn was stuck in some forgotten stasis chamber on the Phalax. Poot guy got stuck teleporting back when he "died", and was basically forgotten in a broom closet for 10 000 years. 😂
If you think about it Dorn is a defense breaker so he would actually be deadly in melee combat given time he should be able to beat all his brothers, and he is a master of defense so he should also have that time during the fight just saying if written right Dorn is deadly, and I am a Vulcan fan saying this!!!$$$+++
at this point i believe that the only way that the Emperor can defeat Horus is because somehow after beating up the Emperor, for a short period Horus comes to his senses and Chaos's grasp on him weaken and he lets the Emperor kill him or he hesitates so the Emperor uses the opportunity to finish him off!! the way the story is heading right now there is no way the Big E can defeat juiced up Horus fair and square!!!
I think Valdor was intended to be the Successor. Or succeed Malcador. Multiple religions denote a triumvirate that leads. Valdor is the only person in existence that would, or could complete the task. The Horus Heresy was a puppet show put on by the emperor to buy time for humanity to put together this army, the infinite empire. Think about it, the crew of these ships are filled with psychic blanks, and astartes that are made more with thaumatergy than chemistry. The question now, that no one has asked, is 1: How and where are custodians made, exactly?, and 2: Arent the two spears drawn to each other? That would mean that Russ is in there with him, right? Angel blood angels, anyone? Wolfey wolfen wolves? I bet the black dragons were a forerunner to the warp crafted salamanders along with a whole host of shit from cursed foundings that were just chucked up to mutation. Edit: Just thought about how the legion of the damned reaping space marine souls for recruits and the 'warp ghosts' doing the same thing in the second black legion book. This also brings to mind the giant army summoned by the Emperor from the warp (where time doesn't exist) to fight in the web-way, which included Ferrus Manus. They're giving space marines the storm cast eternal treatment, eventually. Least that's my two cents.
52:00 i reailize i'm not watching live but i do love the idea of Rogl running around the golden throne in penance… perhaps in a stubby centurion armor… BRUVA ALFABUSA 5 EVER!!!1
If you look at the Primarchs and their Legions, most, if not all, are study in "too much of a good thing." Fulgrim's quest for perfection, Ferrus' hatred of weakness, confidence in the cases of Horus and the Lion. In Dorn's case its duty. His duty to protect Terra and the Imperium. And from his perspective, he faces a series of failures of duty in rapid succession. First the traitors are able to breach his defenses and assualt the Imperial Palace, then the Emperor is killed. In the Iron Cage he's driven not by pride (IMO) but by his dwsire to bring justice and vengeance to the traitors. He can't allow himself to quit until he can deliver that rightful punishment to Perturabo. And in the end, he realizes that not only did he fail to do that, but he also fails in his duty as the leader of his Legion. Dorn's unraveling is driven by percieved failures leading him to press too hard or go too far to make up for it, which leads to more failures. I mean the guy wears a pain glove ffs…
I'd love to see perturabo take over the fleets and armies of chaos from abadon. Perturabo could build a true chaos empire. They could write that perturabo captured dorn on one of those black crusades.
My working theory for Perty's ascension is that somehow the chaos gods helped him lose control of the obliterator virus and forced him to embrace warp powers to ensure his own survival. No way he would choose to ascend otherwise
Khorne wants Dorn because he's a rapper at heart😂
Day 1:
I am Rogal Dorn, Praetorian of Terra, Primarch of the seventh legion, Imperial Fists. Seventh found son. Defiant and Unyielding
Day 109,704
I am….Rogal…Dorn…I think?
I honestly think it was genius the way they show off just how much Horus has lost it via how he thinks he’s gonna rebuild the mornivaul with Big E, Dorn, sangy, and Valdor. Not only is he insane to think that they would just turn around and join him,but the thought of “The Emperor being the avatar of Slenaash” is one that could only run through the mind of a madman. 😂
I haven't read the book, but the idea that all he has to do is say the words "blood for the blood god" will make him fall to chaos is ridiculous. being trapped in a desert wouldn't turn him into a bloodthirsty maniac, it wouldn't change his morals and ideals. to turn a guy like Dorn to chaos you'd need to convince him that it's the right thing to do somehow. no amount of torture would work.
I don’t think he is dead. He is probably being held prisoner somewhere.
It would be kind of funny if Rogal Dorn was stuck in some forgotten stasis chamber on the Phalax. Poot guy got stuck teleporting back when he "died", and was basically forgotten in a broom closet for 10 000 years. 😂
I'm not saying sandman and valrak are the same person… but I've never seen them in the same room together.
Thanks for having me on brother! Means the world!
Rogal Dorn is actually Polish. He changed his name from Rógał Dornowiecki.
What do you mean breaking dorn he never broke he won
Shoutout from the grim frostbitten north of Sweden. Keep it up!
Perty going Demon Prince makes sense, if you consider that Fulgrim stabbed him with THAT sodding blade. It's a means of survival.
If you think about it Dorn is a defense breaker so he would actually be deadly in melee combat given time he should be able to beat all his brothers, and he is a master of defense so he should also have that time during the fight just saying if written right Dorn is deadly, and I am a Vulcan fan saying this!!!$$$+++
Dorn is the best
at this point i believe that the only way that the Emperor can defeat Horus is because somehow after beating up the Emperor, for a short period Horus comes to his senses and Chaos's grasp on him weaken and he lets the Emperor kill him or he hesitates so the Emperor uses the opportunity to finish him off!! the way the story is heading right now there is no way the Big E can defeat juiced up Horus fair and square!!!
Garro, you have a friend in me😏
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I love Rogal Dorn. My home-brew chapter is an Imperial Fist because of that character.
Engagement
Alpharius Lives.
I imagine rogal dorn boring the blood god is like rimmer reading his risk campaign book in red dwarf
Majorkill, Weshammer, Baldermort, Luetin, and Aborder Prince do crossovers all the time, mate.
What are you on about?
Dorn has built a fort that is so good, even he cannot get out. The front door has two keys that need to be turned at the same time.
I felt pretty stupid when I realized why this video was streamed on Thanksgiving 😂 thanks for the lore
Dorn is actually Batman.
Based Primarch ☝️🤓
Dorn gets The Emperor's Codpiece!
Can you cover the T'au Ethereal Aun Shi. I'm trying to figure out if he's still alive in the setting and what he's doing
I think Valdor was intended to be the Successor. Or succeed Malcador. Multiple religions denote a triumvirate that leads. Valdor is the only person in existence that would, or could complete the task. The Horus Heresy was a puppet show put on by the emperor to buy time for humanity to put together this army, the infinite empire. Think about it, the crew of these ships are filled with psychic blanks, and astartes that are made more with thaumatergy than chemistry.
The question now, that no one has asked, is 1: How and where are custodians made, exactly?, and 2: Arent the two spears drawn to each other? That would mean that Russ is in there with him, right?
Angel blood angels, anyone?
Wolfey wolfen wolves?
I bet the black dragons were a forerunner to the warp crafted salamanders along with a whole host of shit from cursed foundings that were just chucked up to mutation.
Edit: Just thought about how the legion of the damned reaping space marine souls for recruits and the 'warp ghosts' doing the same thing in the second black legion book. This also brings to mind the giant army summoned by the Emperor from the warp (where time doesn't exist) to fight in the web-way, which included Ferrus Manus.
They're giving space marines the storm cast eternal treatment, eventually.
Least that's my two cents.
Royal Dorn is the King in Yellow😂😂
Vulcan would get the Amulet of Seven Hammer.
52:00 i reailize i'm not watching live but i do love the idea of Rogl running around the golden throne in penance… perhaps in a stubby centurion armor… BRUVA ALFABUSA 5 EVER!!!1
So basically when the emperor returns he is going to come back as Scrooge McDuck huh
If you look at the Primarchs and their Legions, most, if not all, are study in "too much of a good thing." Fulgrim's quest for perfection, Ferrus' hatred of weakness, confidence in the cases of Horus and the Lion. In Dorn's case its duty. His duty to protect Terra and the Imperium. And from his perspective, he faces a series of failures of duty in rapid succession. First the traitors are able to breach his defenses and assualt the Imperial Palace, then the Emperor is killed. In the Iron Cage he's driven not by pride (IMO) but by his dwsire to bring justice and vengeance to the traitors. He can't allow himself to quit until he can deliver that rightful punishment to Perturabo. And in the end, he realizes that not only did he fail to do that, but he also fails in his duty as the leader of his Legion. Dorn's unraveling is driven by percieved failures leading him to press too hard or go too far to make up for it, which leads to more failures. I mean the guy wears a pain glove ffs…
Vulcan could get the emperor's forge rather than a weapon
I'd love to see perturabo take over the fleets and armies of chaos from abadon. Perturabo could build a true chaos empire. They could write that perturabo captured dorn on one of those black crusades.
As a dark angels fan I would love to see a model of old man lion with the lion sword along with a redeemed cypher and maybe even a redeemed Luther
My working theory for Perty's ascension is that somehow the chaos gods helped him lose control of the obliterator virus and forced him to embrace warp powers to ensure his own survival. No way he would choose to ascend otherwise