How far are you willing to go to get the sound you want? Would you risk a drum to do it? We put this snare to the test and cranked it up higher than ever before…and it sounds GREAT!
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Pearl Masters Maple Custom Extra
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I bought a pearl 13 x3.5 on the internet with out really checking all of the pictures ,when it arrived i noticed it had a marching Kevlar type head on it cranked all of the the way.
When I did the head change the textured Kevlar head left and imprint of that surface on the Bering edges of the maple, needless to say it has issues .
So is that head still good if you wanna go back to a low or mid tuning
That was awesome, I thought it would break for sure.
Maybe that’s why they call them break beats
Gotta admit, the formica table tuning in the intro cracked me up! 😂😂😂
Cool video but kinda click baity. You broke the lug washers but not the drum itself
Nice drumming🙂
I'm relieved (yet mildly disappointed) that your snare didn't go flying away on a giant slingshot. Another cool video!
I like to differentiate between high pitch and high tension. I like high pitch from smaller/shallower snares tuned up a bit on the high side, but high tension, where it sounds like the snare went through a high pass filter, is a very situational thing. I thought your snare sounded quite good at high tension, at least when rimshotted. It's good that anyone who doesn't own a small snare can still get that sound, although a smaller snare is still preferable.
Here's your nagging reminder to sit up straight while you're playing. I see you getting the spine curve to the left that can come from playing traditional grip. Source: am drum teacher with lower back problems.
Is that an MMX snare? If so, holy s…t!!! Those 4 plies can hold up some serious tension!
Interesting experiment. I was just wondering if you have made any video about the difference on tuning with different rims, different edges or oversized vs undersized shell. I happen to have a pearl ultracast snare in which I put a die cast rim on the batter side, with that combination, 2 turns on the screws makes you get a really high tuning, while on another pdp maple snare I have, 2 turns is still decently low, even being a 5'5 instead of 6'5 like the ultracast.
Would have been nice to have seen a tension meter on the head to see what the tension actually was and to hear the drum without the strainer always on. Fin video otherwise!
High snares for life
Have you done drum corp style drums/tuning before? 'Cause playing those snares the way they tune them is like hitting a giant, heavy woodblock. 😳 But boy does the sound carry….
I've ripped out lugs from my snare drum. Top and bottom lugs aren't in the same housing and my snare side is pretty tight. Over the time, playing the drum wore away the screws of the lugs and almost all of them broke off (not at once). Luckily I could fix them, I ended up drilling new and deeper holes and replacing the M3 screws with M4 and it's been going strong ever since. These weak points maybe were why the DDrum Golfball Snare was discontinued, but I love its super dry sound (I have the one with the round lug housings).
The first album I recorded was using a 13" steel Mapex piccolo with the microphone pointed horizontally at the shell. It had a very drumnbass tone and sound to it, which was rather unique given that we were recording an indie punk album. I don't know if I would ever use that sound again, especially because it broke the lugs on that snare; but this video reminded me of that time. Great stuff as always dudes. Love it.
These snare sounds are very useable but don't have a drum that I can crank like this . Please consider making some of your drum sounds from your videos into multi-layered, round robin samples and then sell them. These samples would be great as there are more & more edrum modules (but not Roland's) able to take multi layered samples now.
i was in a metal band in high school, and I got one of the Pearl Free Float snares because having the lugs separate from the shell was what they did with their marching snares, so I figured that would help me get as much tension as possible (I had sheared off one of the lugs from my first cheap snare drum from tightening the batter head too much). I even used a pilfered kevlar marching head from the drumline equipment room. Definitely got me the attack and rebound I wanted. The batter side hoop was absolutely warped and caved in from all the extra tension, though. I prided myself in how well my toms and bass drum were tuned, I got compliments all the time on how they sounded without any dampening at all, so it's weird looking back how cavalier I was with my snare.
Title says "We're Gonna Break This Drum". Watches video, drum doesn't break. Come on man, you had one job! Total clickbait.
I like my batter head tight but not this tight. Remo controlled sound works great for this. Only band live I’ve seen close to this tight was Iya Terra and a death metal band or 2.
Nice experiment. Did you happen to check the frequency numbers at the top end?
I love a tight, popping, high-pitched snare. Great video. I am absolutely loving my 5.5×12 Mapex Warbird Black Panther Design Labs snare.
THAT GIRL IS POOOOOIIIIISSSSOOOOONN!
That's why I love my 1971 supra. I can go low as hell or cranked to the bank. Sorry for the bad cheesy rhyme. But it's true. I can go to the extremes with that drum and it sounds great!!
I have one of my snare drums tuned so high I had to spin the drum and hold the drum key in place to tighten the head. Granted, it’s an old drum, I’m using a 2 ply head (with a reverse dot) and the tension rods probably need to be greased up again some day.
Could you make a drum "go out of round" doing that?
I love your videos but I do feel like this title is clickbait and disappointing
Not that I want you to break a drum, but disappointed because what the title says is not what you did in the video. You stopped before the point of failure.
Tbh I was curious which would fail first from that much tensions: head, rim or another part of the shell.
Also I don’t know if maybe the drum does something unexpected after the point you stopped.
Just thought I would share constructive feedback, I love the channel and what you guys are doing. You’re videos have really helped me out with a lot
You picked an appropriate piece to play at the highest tuning lol
i'm super into the 90s ska kinda thing(think goldfinger), so my first real snare i got i tuned up kinda like this and still keep it relatively high. it's a 90s 14×6.5 brass tama snare that's got a g12, diplomat, and super 30 wires. something about a big shell like that tuned way up high just pops more aggresively than a piccolo in the same range, likely because of the higher tension to get there.
Lug design al shell construction warning here… I had an old Ludwig 10×15 3 ply marching snare that originally came with Mach lugs (the ones that go across top to bottom). I got a 12×15 marching snare and I already had a 6.5 x14, so I figured I'd cut the 10" down to 8" deep. I merrily cut it down, glued back the re-ring and re-cut the bearing edge… None of the lug holes lined up with the new small classic lugs I needed to fit this configuration. I plugged up all the holes and drilled new ones and got the whole thing built up. It was fantastic!! But then, it was clear that the plugged holes and new holes all drilled inline compromised the structural integrity. It eventually developped cracks and I've since rebuilt it but this time from a 12×15 shell with small classic lugs. The original holes on one side are in the right spot and the holes further from the bearing edge on the snare side are against the new position of the re-rings, so not under tension.
If you have drums with thinner shells or lugs that don't transmit tension between one side and the other, be careful!!!
Thank you for the video
I noticed the ringing would get higher the higher the tension
so im guessing the theory is if we go high enough the ring will disappear
who needs moongels when you can overtune your drum
awesome demonstration, thanks for doing this! it's cool to see how all the sounds are good and cover different styles. i'm definitely impressed by that jungle snare sound!
I once cranked my old Sonor smart force snare, and the lug gaskets started breaking out of the lugs.
11:08 this is so pocket that i think im going to crank the tension rods of my snare drum to they maximum point to have a similar sound 😆
been there, done that. (the lugs broke in half and ripped off the drum)🤣 basically this whole video is @grindcoredrummers
when it starts to sound like a marching snare drum.
I use Remo coated ambassadors on all of my snare drums and a sound great !
This reminds me of the snare on Novocaine For The Soul by Eels.
Damn that started to irritate my ears. No hate btw
I don't do this, I think it ruins the head by stretching it, and can potentially damage the drum. If you over stretch the head it won't tune as high and you put the lugs under extra stress when you try to get that sound later. I leave my gigging snare detuned during the week, when I get to the gig, I tune up each tension rod a 1/4 turn, then tune it back down at the end of the weekend.
If you want this sound, use a 10" snare.
I've been repairing band instruments for 35 years now. I remember back in the late 1980s attending a percussion clinic in Columbus Ohio at the Ohio State University. Back in the day they were warning about the new Kevlar heads that had come out and over tensioning those on snare drums. they had a 12 lug slingerland TDR snare drum with the full-length lug casings and they actually buckled the Shell up in the last about an inch from the bearing Edge down. This would unlikely ever happen with a conventional mylar head, but it was interesting to see that they literally had folded that she'll in on itself. Fun stuff.
I like that you snuck crazy army in there..
Don't crank up your Pearl Export toms to try to turn them into a set of drum corps multi-tenors just so you can prepare for your college drumline audition. Legend has it you'll pop lugs right off and warp the shells so much that they look more like clay pottery disasters than drums. Even tensioning? What's even tensioning?!!
B.B.D. “Poison” reference! I always play that with my high pitched side snare.
Remo Black Max on a stainless steel shell.