Utah Data Center: Inside the NSA's Hard Drive



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33 thoughts on “Utah Data Center: Inside the NSA's Hard Drive”

  1. "The NSA is constrained by the law and has oversight from every branch of government."

    Oh, that's a funny joke. Just like how the CIA is constrained and has oversight AMIRIGHTPETER?

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  2. 12:48 If the NSA pulls off breaking AES. You can say goodbye to your privacy. It is not a good thing they are doing that.
    16:48 No it isn't. If GCHQ got caught doing it, you can bet everything you have and all of your children the NSA is at it too. And the NSA don't care if they get caught at it either.

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  3. It’s really American for the average citizen thinks the U.S. government really cares enough about them to spy on their lives. The IC has much more pressing things to care about than their boring ass text messages or browsing history.

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  4. I haven't done a lot with data centers specifically, but the network operation centers I've worked with tend to be situated mostly underground for security and temperature control. I've seen at least a few positoned beneath unrelated surface structures with an adjascent, non-descript elevator entrance mascarading as a maintenance shed or the like. Wouldnt be surprised if the same is the case here, with the actual facility a few stories underground, and the visible structures being nothing but auxiliary office space for management types to draw on whiteboards and answer phone calls.

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  5. If they really want to store all the data from all the people in and around the US then they are going to have to start building a bigger facility, especially with even simple files becoming larger and more complex…

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  6. My favorite part of this is when the 9th circuit court of appeals ruled the surveillance program this facility was built for to be unlawful under FISA as well as being possibly unconstitutional back in late 2020… yet it's all still online.

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  7. I mean, common sense would tell you if you want to keep these things cool with ambient temp. And don't have to use as much on heat and cooling, plus keep them secure you go underground. Using old bunkers would probably be ideal. But you know this America, let's make shit complicated.

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  8. The water argument always annoys me. Like the water isn’t disappearing. I most case water is either being kept on site, diverted for grey water usage (toilets, landscaping, fire suppression, agriculture, etc) or it is treated and sent back into the system. If I remember correctly, there is typically less then a 3% waste product.

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  9. I live right next to this thing. We now have a Google database, Facebook database plus tons of other tech companies. Not to mention the building is practically on the army base

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  10. Pertaining to the brief mention of "electrical surges" causing large problems for the DC, I'd wager that the issue was more likely due to power sagging briefly due to a fault somewhere along the transmission lines. You can plainly see scores of generators in the images in the video so it might seem counterintuitive that this could be problematic for them as they undoubtedly have the whole facility on uninterruptible power sufficient to ride through any loss of power before the generators start up and pickup the load. The problem is that no power is a whole lot easier to deal with than e.g. half normal line voltage, even if it's only brief. All of the power supplies for the servers are going to be switched mode power supplies and the lower the supply voltage (to an extent) the higher the current draw to maintain their nice, clean, regulated power output. This causes breakers within the facility to trip due to overcurrent and with breakers you have a trip curve which shows the relationship to current and the time it takes for the breaker to trip. Ideally you engineer this so that the breakers closer to the fault will trip first and not the breaker upstream. In a residential setting if someone causes a short circuit dropping a hair dryer into the bath you want the breaker on the cord itself to trip. If that doesn't happen or it doesn't exist then you want the breaker on the bathroom itself to trip. You don't want it to trip the main breaker to the house every single time there's a fault on any one of the circuits. Unfortunately for a building packed to the roof with servers drawing power from switched mode power supplies this problem gets turned on its head. Now when there's an overcurrent event due to the utility voltage sagging down too low instead of tripping some breaker on the line coming in you trip several breakers downstream of the supply. Those breakers are also probably going to be downstream of generator power as well so even if the fault wasn't just a momentary blip and you switched over to generators, you still have a bunch of servers running out of backup power before those tripped breakers can be investigated and power restored.

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