The New York, a unique armoured cruiser of the US Navy, is today’s subject.
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Two guns in the primary battery just don't have turrets? Sounds like New York alright.
My father served on the New York from 39-42 and our local realtor served on her in ww1 when she was coal fired,he had some pictures that disappeared after he died in 2012. I do remember some of the stories 🦑
Another case where one of my favorite ships is new to so many people who focus on WWII.
The New York and Brooklyn were ideal ships for the US Navy. The later American armored cruisers, not so much.
This channel has the best video introduction of any channel on YT. I am from Maine so I bristle whenever she is mentioned.
At least America learns more quickly how to design reasonable armored cruisers than I do in Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts
In the US Navy lexicon naming a ship the New York must get confusing. The state? The city? Or the state of mind? 😖
Well I'd say the US got their money's worth out of that ship
Wasn't feel so right but DRach found a cure
Too bad about the demolition in the 60s, she sounds like a fun dive.
It's insane that Maine and New York were designed and constructed at roughly the same time but New York was still in service when the US Navy's first carrier was laid down.
Is that a record for most name changes in the navy? Strange making the deck armor thicker than the belt. What were they expecting?
I'm a sucker for the New York; such fine lines in comparison to both her predecessor and successor. I've often wondered if she could've been modernized to take the twin 8's from the Lexingtons. Alas, it wasn't to be… Shame she was scuttled at Subic.
Interesting ship. One has to wonder though why she was left in the Philippines instead of being brought home for decommissioning. If she was intended to be used there, why wasn't she? And if she wasn't, why bother?
How about a video about the USS San Diego which sank off Long Island, New York? In fairly shallow water, I understand.
Interesting comment – "bit of a glass cannon". Very pithy statement that communicates a lot of information.
it's actually shocking how open the 8 inch guns on the side sponsons were. splinter proof mounting is rather hopeful wording any burst from any angle thats not directing in front will obviously wipe out the gun crew. really reminds one of being on a ship of the line
"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." – Socrates
Contrary to Drach's opinion, the Wikipedia entry states "… had good protection". But Drach has made me such an expert I can pick that apart merely using the subsequent details narrated right there.
Might have almost been worth it to let the Japanese capture and use it. Maybe mess it up a bit first or just scuttle it where it could brought up so as to make the Japanese waste time and money on it.
You should do a thing just about the Philly Navy Yard. I drive past the old yard no less then 2xs a day. Learning the amount of ships that that yard produced gives me great pride for the city I have lined in for 42 years
B ack in 1898, the Spanish Armada purchased an armoured C from Italy – the Cristobal Colon. In the situation it was delivery in 1897 without her main armament. Looking forward to fighting the New York, was there any possibility of Cristobal Colon receiving her 10inch weapons from Krupp or Bofors or the La Seyne shipyard in France prior to the Caribbean ?
Did Jackie Fisher leave any insights or reports or comments about the Spanish American War in the North Atlantic?
Interesting that she survived so long. Part of me suspects politics had something to do with it.
You see! Renaming a ship means bad luck. That’s why so many sailors died…. Or were killed.. and she sank…superstition is so fucking stupid.
Interesting picture of Subic Bay base. Outside the absence of the Carrier Piers and buildings added after WWII, the place looks much like it did in the 90's.
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Great video thanks
did the USS New York have a sister ship?
How dare they change the name twice on this grand old girl .They didn't do that in The Royal Navy did they? How bad for morale.
So you cleared up that music crap issue? Hope so!!
Would’ve been a good match for the Congo. Lol!
Minor anecdote, My father served on the USS Rochester (CA-124) between 1957-1963. Different ship of course.
Amazing the advancement between Maine and New York, once again ships being obsolete as they are being built.
USS New York is a wonderful dual use name for a US ship. It can be seen as named after the city or state, thus a suitable name for a battleship or ballistic missile sub, which are named after states, or a cruiser or attack sub, named after cities. Afaik only the Los Angeles-class USS New York City is actually named specifically after the city. The current USS New York is technically named after the state but is in commemoration specifically of the 9/11 attack in NY City.
I was privileged to be present at her commissioning in New York City. We city dwellers see her as our ship.
The diagrams at around 2:59 show two funnels but the pictures show 3. Why is this? (No criticism of you, Drach – your videos are great.)
And I note the last picture at Subic, she has only two funnels.
Hi Drach. Love your vids but it seems your new(er) ones are wayyyyy low on volume. I watched this one, then one from 3 years ago and there was a 2x difference in volume on the older one. I find that the same with any other YT vids I watch. Your volume is down 50%.
Very nicely done
This channel needs more large cruisers from between Warrior and Invincible era.
Hey drach, in this case, what is the difference between a sponson and a casemate mount?
The US Navy could probably have simplified centuries worth of frustration if they'd just give number names, such as USS New York. USS New York II, USS New York III, etc. Then when the 'older' ship is retired, it keeps its name and the new ship is simply referred to as the "New York" in general speak.
hey Drachinifel the HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repulse are being illegally salvaged
Thank you for doing this video, I still have that plate you helped me identify from her launching.
My grandfather brought her out of mothballs to fight the Great War. He came aboard in July 1917 at the Puget Sound Naval Yard in Bremerton as Engineering Officer. At the time, she was expected to patrol the West Coast. But by September she had transited the Panama Canal and was assigned North Atlantic convoy duty. She escorted three (that I know of). In June 1918, with my grandfather then the Navigator, the New York/Saratoga/Rochester took on U-86. One freighter of the convoy was sunk, but the remainder escaped — thanks to the good work of the Rochester. A few days later, the U-86 sank the Canadian hospital ship LLandovery Castle and machine gunned the life boats of survivors. Only 24 survived. Lt. Helmut Patzig, the U-86 captain, evaded post-war prosecution. My grandfather served the duration of the Great War on the USS Rochester, departing as Executive Officer. Thank you for this Memorial Day Weekend reminder of his one day of combat during a 42 year Naval career.
quick question for anyone knowledgeable, is there a video about the bearn out and about or if not then is it prominently featured in another video? i hear it spoken about badly in so many different videos but its all scattered, i need to know the full extent of its terribleness
Firstly, I love your channel and your material. However, I get so mad with the audio levels on the title sequence. On my smart TV with a sound bar I cannot hear it at all unless I turn the volume fully up. The narration audio is not too bad, but it is lower level that the other channels, so I have to turn it up a bit. I’m writing this on my iPad, and I noticed that the intro is audible on this device. Not over loud, but audible. Are you using 5.1 audio on this section, and maybe YouTube is pushing the audio out to left and right speakers that I don’t have? A huge mystery for me. Surely someone else must have mentioned it. Cheers!
Very nice, i like the protected cruisers👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
2:23 – For some reason I have a thing about those open mounts.
Looks like elevation isn't too good, depending on length of recoil before hitting the deck.