I think you asked hell is real is heaven real Well heaven is as far away from hell as you can get That’s a good way of thinking about it I’ve spent my whole life trying to determine how you get as far away from being a camp guard at Auschwitz who enjoys his job as possible And one of the things I’ve realized in recent years for example is that you are far from that if you’re engaging in your interactions with the world in the spirit of voluntary play
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