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@EmperorTigerstar and I set out to figure out how the artform of propaganda became so terrible, yet seemingly effective. We started in 1919 and moved chronologically to this, the final one, which was about Tucker Carlson’s peripheral media associated with his interview of Vladimir Putin. By this point, the propaganda we’d watched had become incredibly inept, which was sad to see.
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*Bibliography*
Rachel Maddow, Blowout: Corrupted Democracy Rogue State Russia and the Richest Most Destructive Industry on Earth (New York: Crown, 2019). https://amzn.to/3Z3ee6S
Yu Ouyang and Richard W. Waterman, Trump, Twitter, and the American Democracy: Political Communication in the Digital Age (Cham, Switzerland: Palgrave Pivot, 2020). https://amzn.to/2UdrsA5
Richard M. Perloff, The Dynamics of Political Communication: Media and Politics in a Digital Age, 2nd ed. (2013; New York: Routledge, 2018). https://amzn.to/3cV6U65
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M. Laser coverage of Putin: https://youtu.be/pzxBKcTpRe4?si=Np_jFobFfcdckEeq
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EmperorTigerstar's channel: https://www.youtube.com/@EmperorTigerstar
propaganda playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjnwpaclU4wV_hP4pPdTu3_QdRe8o-WOU
political polarization playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjnwpaclU4wXxGRwtV4EGk_vuAH2VkODS
M. Laser coverage of Putin: https://youtu.be/pzxBKcTpRe4?si=Np_jFobFfcdckEeq
longer discussion: https://youtu.be/3hzWMTqeoMA
Bibliography
Rachel Maddow, Blowout: Corrupted Democracy Rogue State Russia and the Richest Most Destructive Industry on Earth (New York: Crown, 2019). https://amzn.to/3Z3ee6S
Yu Ouyang and Richard W. Waterman, Trump, Twitter, and the American Democracy: Political Communication in the Digital Age (Cham, Switzerland: Palgrave Pivot, 2020). https://amzn.to/2UdrsA5
Richard M. Perloff, The Dynamics of Political Communication: Media and Politics in a Digital Age, 2nd ed. (2013; New York: Routledge, 2018). https://amzn.to/3cV6U65
Technically, we all share a common ancestor, since all humans came from around the Ethiopia region around 60000 years ago. We better pamper to Addis Ababa's every whim, lest they invade us using this argument.
…you lost the plot. So Russia is the reason why both far right and far left “Tankies” as well as right center soccer moms critically view the US government? There couldn’t be any material reason why more Americans see the policies of their government as disconnected from popular sentiments? You’ve got your PhD now, read some Lenin. Or keep doing what you’re doing; carrying water for the liberal class and being a 2025 doughface. John Brown wouldn’t be your friend.😮🎉
Great breakdown guys
9:50 Pretty sure the word you were looking for was subversion. Subversion has been in the r*ssian toolbox since the soviet times and it has worked wonders for them. They spew out conflicting propaganda messages, hook western radicals on those tidbits and then sow dissent and confusion in order to break western unity and do what they want while the west is busy fighting amongst themselves. Look through RT articles and you will see the consistent double think "r*ssia is strong" "Everyone bullies poor old weak r*ssia", "We hate gays" "Look at X hating on gays, very bad"…
And so you have right wingers going "Wow r*ssia is so based christian powerhouse who are totally no nonsense" and left wingers going "Wow, r*ssia is such a multicultural place that actually jails their neo-nazis and calls out west on their bigotry"
The beauty of it all is that other than the outright lies that they propagate, they chop up the truth into so small pieces and present them in framed context or without context at all and let the targets do all the rest of the work. Disproving these bits of half-truths is very difficult when the victim of this subversion refuses to take a look at the whole picture.
Propaganda is like porn in that it doesn't need to be good quality to work.
Thanks for keeping this topic alive and perhaps introducing people who missed it to this unbelievable…I guess shill is the correct term.
I have a bad feeling that the United States is going to become a lot like Russia in the next few years. Or more than a few.
Are you going to break down Johnny Harris's nakedly propagandistic video on Saudi Arabia and Neom too? That deserves a serious takedown.
No homeless? All he had to do was walk down Nikolskaya street off of red square. You’ll see huddled up grandma's with their hands out.
Go to any frequently used public area and he would have seen drunks wandering around looking for money.
I’m tired of listening to people that get news from this guy. They’ll on one hand say how powerful and “modern” Russia is. Then admit they are scared of ever going to visit (not that they ever would).
learning about what a Potemkin village was, I don't really take on face value someone showing only high income areas in any country or escorted by government guides
the worst and funniest part is seeing people falling for this
(And I know Potemkin village is an exaggeration)
"Ukraine is not a real county"
Dude where do you think countries come from? God? Though I guess it makes sense since people don't seem to udnerstand what social constructs are.
You guys don't realize how much of a police state Moscow is, I am not surprised there is no hobos in Moscow but outside the city is a whole lot different story.
I'm not a historian but how is American conservatism not an institution in and of itself?
19:19 fucking gold
Always follow the money.
It's an indictment on the economic system, not just the media landscape. Market expansion, economic growth, supply-and-demand. The paradox of achieving the scale to reach national or international customers while also seeking infinitely increasing profit growth rates will always lead to quantity over quality. This is what happens when we are only able to vote with dollars.
I mean castro got rid of homeless people, though by a very different method than most dictatorships, much like the USSR, castro just built lots of homes and split mansions into smaller homes and gave them away
21:42 American public transport is a joke and the best stations were torn down by the car lobby
25:35 he didn’t fall for it. He was paid to be willfully ignorant. I don’t think he’s dumb, he just values money over morals.
The take I always heard about this was that tucker was outing himself as someone who has never set foot inside a grocery store
1996 fairness doctrine caused this
'[…]Even those idiots probably agree that we construct nations, we build them, we choose to organise into nations.' Sorry to say that, Cipher, but living my whole life in Poland and having been through the Polish education system, I vehemently disagree with that statement. The idea of nations being an early modern era concept was not ever mentioned. The way I remember it, school-level history and Polish, two subjects that most often talked about history, were built around explaining the 'how we got here', with an unspoken agreement that 'this is not current year, but it's already Poland and Poles we are talking about'.
Poland has a long history Poles can be proud of, but the understanding that we've always been somewhere that leads to the same adherence to a common ancestor is something very powerful here. Given this, I can easily believe there are people who don't think of nations as something they co-create and agree to be a part of, but something there were born into and that will always have a bearing on them in some way.
THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD AND IT"S NAME IS THE DOLLA DOLLA BILL YA ALL. TUCKER IS A BELIEVER!
It's wild to hear Tucker talking about inflation in the US in a Moscow supermarket while Russian inflation makes the numbers in the West look amazing by comparison.
Yep, hes a disgusting pos traitor. 🤷
Russia's propaganda is not selling an alternate reality, but the idea that reality is completely irrelevant. Not even that there is not an actual truth out there, but that the truth – even if it exists – it be completely irrelevant.
<s> Subways are socialist fascist communism to make people live in godless cities. If the Russians were really free they would all have vehicles to drive themselves. Tucker used to be more reliable on this. What happened?</s>
Off topic, but I'm planning to see a historic event at Fort Ticoderoga this spring, a recommendation on books to read specific to the Fort and battle would be helpful.
age of ego
WTF is this timeline. Down with the globalist Oligarchs (who ironically themselves somewhat support that rhetoric… psy ops all around)
Has anyone noticed the flood of leftist propaganda YouTube is dumping onto their feeds. WOW watch this leftist throw a fit for 45 minutes won’t you?!
I sentence you to be locked in a room with Linsey Graham…
Cypher… don't you think the NSA and and cable news is doing the same thing? Are you saying that we don't have our own troll farms? Nice visiting your channel, I won't be back…
Is it really astounding that a brain dead moron like Tucker Carlson fell for the guy's whose boots Tucker licks propaganda? Really?
Is Carlson really saying that Democracy and Free Market Capitalism are bad and that we need a socialistic dictatorship?
This same thing just happened to me personally, but it was China and not Russia.
That whole bread thing was so ridiculous. Sniffing a loaf wrapped in plastic, lol
If he cant handle living in the us he can always defect he wont be missed
I am quite sure the Moscow police did a sweep and clear of the station before they allowed cameras in.
Aldi does the cart thing in the USA too. That's not unique to that store. Ignoring the fact that it's a French store
As someone who had your channel forced on me I know a little bit about propaganda.
$400 on groceries for a week? How many people is he shopping. I typically spend less than $200 for 4 people
"He's pretending to be middle class"
It's one banana, guys. How much could it cost, $10?
22:04 I heavily agree with you that this is experience is curated specifically to sell a certain image of Russia, that would be silly to dispute, however, the russian home ownership rate is 92.6%. While Russia has a GREAT DEAL of horrific issues, homelessness is not one of them. This might be splitting hairs but I really do think that among developed economies, homelessness (to the degree that we suffer from in the US) seems to be a uniquely American problem :/
Do you think there is any way to combat fire hosing more effectively other than just teaching people better media literacy skills and encouraging developing critical thinking skills?
If anyone has ever seen The Interview with James Franco, do you remember the scene where the North Korean grocery store had a fat kid outside with the windows seemingly showing a store full of food? Tucker's grocery store trip in Moscow is basically much of the same propaganda that it's beyond parody.
30:31 To be fair, if I’m doing a small grocery run, I do put everything in the top part.
The hate boner you people have for Russia is something else. The Democrats pushed the fake Russia hoax for 10 years and you really expect us to believe you?
This was chewy for my brain matter, thank you. Brain goes nom nom nom.🧠🥨