StarCraft 2 Tournament 2023 – ESL SC2 Cup Finals – MaxPax battles Clem in one of the most micro intensive series I’ve ever seen in StarCraft 2. Terran vs Protoss
StarCraft 2 Legacy of the Void – ESL SC2 Pro Tour EU Cup 190 Finals – Clem (Terran) vs MaxPax (Protoss) – Best of 5
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what you meen the best protos outside Korea ? thats an insult to the legend Neeb and the wall Showtime. dammit winter do some research
@40:00 Carriers vs Tempests is also highly upgrade dependent. Tempests don't need upgrades to be relevant. Carriers without upgrades are horrendously bad vs an opponent with them. They'll have less DPS than tempests when at +0 vs +3 armor, and the interceptors die incredibly quickly with no armor/shield upgrades vs +3 from the opponent; (at +0 vs +3, carriers have less DPS than tempests, even after all of their interceptors are launched, and launching all 8 interceptors takes 4* (~2.84 on faster) seconds. It ALWAYS makes sense to go into some tempests before carriers, until you get the upgrades to make carriers actually worth something. Tempests also have more range and can micro better.
Granted, tempests are pretty terrible if they can be forced into a fight (though carriers aren't much better regardless if the Terran is on a decent composition, especially if they use EMP. Everything Terran has that hits air can take on either unit in a straight fight on similar supply.).
That second game was closer than it had any right to be.
Maxpax was almost completely unharassed at home, dealt repeated blows to Clem's eco, and his stalker harrass chewed through so much stuff, yet Maxpax still couldn't secure a decisive economic lead, nor efficiently deal with the bioball+vikings.
If those circumstances had been reversed, Protoss would've folded inside of 8 mins.
31:59 very Nice indeed…
Where is the counter joke jajajajs
theses colors of units more flashy is made by the map or there is parameter we can change?
I never released my template for sc2 key binds, but since some of you play aoe2. Here is my Aoe2 binds I find most important, ina qwerty, setup.
Ctrl-shift + (group)
Ctrl-Shift + F – Monasteries
+D Workshops
+R stables
+z Town centers
+S universities
+q Archery, +w barracks, +A Smiths, +C castles, +e docks, +x Markets
Select all land; OR, naval units (double hit of key combination): F1 (tool tips moved to f5)
This is just a small change but will improve your speed in aoe2 quite fast. Allowing you to utlize the shift commands adn rallies better so your camera can focus to where you want. Never having to find a specific building for upgrades. Simply at your finger tips.
The unit selection size is still at 60, so armies of 240 are hard ot manage at times.
Using R movement, or patrol movements can be quite helpful, try not to have any unit standing still..
Lastly. Best improvement is the shift command.. works so good with trebs, so you can have them que up castel and town hall priorties and then will auto unpacka nd move to the next targets, and gives you the abiltiy to move your military around more freely.
but what does this have to do with sc2… 🙂
Yes, this MaxPax vs. Clem! 😀
"Maxpax as a Danish player is not going to underestimate vikings" is one of those jokes that you don't get until a second later but what a banger
The marine says “why the no-face”
"Clem is playing so carefully."
No disrespect to Maxpax but am I the only one who thought it looked like he was playing with his food?
Could you cast more than one Protoss win a month? if those even exist
like and subscribe for the honesty people!
“I’ll just give you the Ooohs and ahhhs of it… AAahhhh, ooh” very true to your word Winter
MaxPax played out of his mind on those first two games. Every single encounter was met with zealots in the mineral line. MaxPax really did such a good job of demolishing that economy that terran relies on so much. What an awesome series
FOP (forward operating pylons) prolly woulda one this for Hero?
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Clem vs MaxPax? I'm 100% in, lets go Winter.
I'm a new fan of TvP, what a couple of nerd, get a life!
So much micro, so little time…
spoiler…
Vikings have been op a little, for a minute, yes? wpwp
insane!!
Vikings are great, they fly, sometimes they shoot up and sometimes they shoot down. As a Bronze League hero myself I find them excellent
In those 2 first games MaxPax imho looked like a Protoss Serral, near perfect in everything he did. It was a pleasure to watch.
Time for another rousing round of Terran Wins
Was kinda disappointed that it was just the same thing over and over for the last 3 games. MaxPax was simply unable to counter the vikings, disruptors are a very skill dependent unit (Not user skill but the opponents skill), and simply don't usually work at this high of a level. So how can Protoss even fight against the bio, you need Colossus. What can you do against Vikings? Basically nothing.
Once Clem figured out that he simply needed Viking's, this series got boring real fast. And I think MaxPax gave it an honest try, trying to mix in Tempest and Archons at some points but yeah. I really do believe that Toss needs a solid anti-air unit. Or, just bring back storm. I mean even Terran can have EMP, Zerg can have a bunch of AOE spells but Toss can't have Storm (Ghost have their own storm in form of "EMP", that just deletes all shields and turns toss units into play dough but an also counter high templars… So yeah, I find this amusing.)
I find toss quite boring to watch. Will stick to ZvT.
Spoiler!
Protoss lost again.
Love your cast winter your terrible dad jokes make me die everytime. Especially when you quit halfway cause you know it's bad lmao kills me everytime!
Love your humor and presentation style.
you are possibly the most enthusiastic caster, looking forward to your posts every single day.
Hey, winter. I am glad you do what you do. My newborn and I listen to you when she wakes up hungry in the middle of the night.
Great cast 👏… what an entertaining match.
fenix grabs the tank. the workers repair the tank "in air"……… "Science"
please stay as you are Winter. 😊😊
Winter mate the cards are just too good xD Been watching you since hots and it just gets better and better xD great work dude
The alliteration at 38:50. This is why Winter is my main provider of SC2 content.
Do Protoss even win anymore? Ever?
The thumbnail is pure gold xD
8:10: BRUTALITY!
17:50: Oof, lotta damage there!
18:50: Dangerous game for SCVs! Great multi-attack too. Love Max's playstyle in this one!
21:00: Trying to save the Colossi cost him dearly here. Running did nothing to save them, it just wasted what time they had left.
34:34: TREACHERY! =0
35:50: The jukes! =O
37:10: Psych! xD
38:35: I thought that one was hitting for sure!
40:40: Max getting absolutely brutalized here. So many lives thrown away in pointless aborted charges… I can't watch!
41:55: SATISFACTION AT LAST! xD
42:40: Tempests really puttin' in work here! But so are the Libs.
What a game! Max was way ahead for quite a while, then Clem dodged everything and took a similar lead, the Max brought it back to even… Wild! But Vikings always win in the end.
57:57: Oof! Those balls hurt, but not how you'd expect.
1:05:00: And everyone dies. They'll be hearing from Game of Thrones' lawyers.
1:09:35: Baiting the tanks with the Probe so he could chuck a ball was very cute xD
Vikings always win.
I got the same T-shirt, Winter. Good taste!
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It's me, or Protoss air is bad?
Always making great content sir. Getting back into SC thanks to you. Thanks for all you do
sucks that they removed high templar from the game, he could have used some storms in the last few games