A satirical slap in Heinlein’s face, a love triangle that doesn’t exist, and a seriously gutting “happy” ending. Maybe the bugs were the real heroes after all.
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Paul’s movie vs. Robert’s novel | 0:00
Nazi imagery | 1:17
Carmen | 2:08
Gender-neutral showers | 3:08
Lacks racial diversity (but that’s the point) | 4:00
An inside job | 5:08
Good bugs | 6:18
Rico’s teachers | 7:24
An unhappy ending | 8:10
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What was your impression of the "Starship Troopers" movie when you first saw it?
The funniest part about the movie is that it features no actual fascism of any kind, despite being a supposed "satire" of fascism, despite the director never having read the book it was supposed to be a satire of, and just assuming "oh because they have a military they are fascists".
That it's a horrible rendition of a great book?
Saw it as a kid, and really dismissed the plot in favor of the eye candy. . . I read the book when I graduated from Sandhill as a Infantrymen heading down to Airborne school. Much of my child hood I was raised abroad in Syria, so the Juan Rico connection in the South America location was a bit fitting to my own background, let alone on experiencing what a true authoritarian regime is. The subtle message that to suffer is to bind you to something higher, higher then your free will in a communal purpose was the message I got from the author that correlates well with a Grunts ethos.The cosmos is indifferent to our suffering or extinction that is no more different to us that of microbes or bugs on a petrie dish. Mankind is a communal and harmonious creature yet barbaric to exhibit it is an unwavering phenomena to survive against any odds or adversity by any means possible. To such an extent that it might actually unify us in the prior predicament of nearly destroying us. It is an allegory of a hive mind vs individualism (how the powers at be are no different then that of a brain bug), the unsettling rational of violence being a necessary evil, that mans self destructive tendencies can serve a higher purpose against a common enemy as apposed to ourselves. A sobering sentiment of self preservation is a defense, and the best defense is a good offense. . .
One of my favorite movies!!!! It was so fun!!!!🤗🤗🤗
This was a brainless, fun, action movie. This was way over analyzed.
I saw the movie before I read the book. The movie wasn't really an adaptation. It makes fun of the book in my opinion. The book is way better.
Carmen is just the worse.
The funny thing is he failed in getting his message across. ST is a beacon for how the average Joe through patriotism and citizen responsibility can make a great impact on the world around him. He set out to tell a message and in the end made the same point in film that the novel made simply because those tenants of society resonate with people more the the director liberalism. Great novel and great film.
drama and sub plots of romance is dumb and hollywood should stop it didnt add anything to the story
People like the narrator are the first to be torn apart in war.
I saw the movie when I was 18, and I was entertained but also kind of weirded out by what I thought was a celebration of Nazism and militarism. I totally missed the satire.
The 40 year old high school man with a wig on.
4:21 actually Juan Rico is a Filipino-American Character in the Novel. Yes it's true in the Novel Juan is not a Blonde, American Man but rather a Half Filipino Descent.
You seem to ignore all the other movies that came after this one when talking about this movie. This is the equivalent to talking about Star Wars but only talking about Episode IV and ignoring the rest.
Hated the movie. Loved the book. Long time science fiction fan. Total waste!
You know that facism is not the same as nazizm. different type of cancer.
In order to be a member of society you must contribute to said society if not you should have no say or rights in how the society is run
This is the first time I've ever seen anyone refer to Jake Busey as a heartthrob.
star shiptrooper sholud made a series version they have many story to telling
To be honest if the Director wanted to show that the Bugs were actually intelligent and sympathetic creatures who were only defending maybe don't have them still attack in waves like a zerg rush with no intention to survive like in the book – they often showed tactics and cunning like with the trap so they COULD act intelligently yet the majority of their offensive power was rushing cannon fodder.
I.e. showing the leadership caste of bugs had absolutely no care for their average 'soldier' whatsoever. Like at least the fascist dictatorship actually tried to increase the survivability of it's soldiers, the bugs just sent their soldiers out into the open right into automatic fire.
It makes sense in the book because Heinlein wanted the bugs to represent what America considered the Commie states of China and Russia to be – i.e. absolutely NO CARE for the average soldier, relying on pure weight of numbers in poorly equipped, poorly trained men – trying to drown the opponent in bodies. A detestable nation that the 'good guys' (the Federation/America) are purely in the right to try to destroy.
(it's not a coincidence that Sci-fi bug-races have societies reminiscent of what 1960s America thought Communist society was – strictly regimented caste based where every individual works for the collective and there is absolutely no individuality or social mobility allowed with militaries focused purely on 'human'-wave tactics where individual soldiers die basically instantly but there are a massive number of them to wear the opponent down)
So they're sad that they whitewashed the book they are accusing of being fascist and pro-war? Progressivism is such cancer LOL!
It is just a movie and you whine a whole lot
My biggest question to this video is, who was watching Starship Troopers not as an adult?
As a south American Latino, the fact that Rico was a blue eyed blonde was pretty accurate
Still a cool action movie though.
Starship Troopers is about military culture and arguably militaristic, but if you actually understand the military you'll know why it's anything but "pro-war."
It was an incredibly cool film for its time, and it possesses cool social criticism and professional film rhythm. The majority of the scenes clearly take place indoors. But some of the effects were so good that they still hold up today. It was easy to see that Verhoeven was behind Starship Troopers after having seen the commercials and the police uniforms in his RoboCop movies.
@4:00 The first thing I noticed, apart from the dark fascist humor, was that all the actors looked like super successful glamorous stars. Watching the film today no longer evokes the experience of this contrast. But at that time, it was so striking that everyone understood there must be something behind it. After all, the film is set in the future, so perhaps it was meant to portray a world dominated by genetic manipulation and a society based on selection. It made sense in that context, but I also thought it could cleanse the film industry from prioritizing looks over talent.
Worst satire ever. kek
The bugs literally broke the truce, you bug loving liberal.
I'm surprised theres no mention of this world as a society where Nazis won WWII
Funny how everyone in the movie assumes the threat is real and human leaders are genuinely acting in good faith…. while everyone here is assuming the exact opposite, that the threat is inexistant, that the bugs didn't launch the meteorite, that it is all a facade to control and manipulate people for some hidden agenda.
To me, the political system is a true utopia. Earn your privileges? It is only fair.
weird how this movie has almost no asians and brown people. its almost entirely white with black sprinkles
Carmen's arc is also about how at the beginning she thought humans are smarter than the bugs and then later on she admits that was a mistake.
Why doesn't anyone talk about how Dizzy is openly refusing to take "no" for an answer, repeatedly stalks a guy who is dating someone else, and after he refuses to dance with her, she even physically pulls him into a dance position against his will?
“Fascists loving war” huh? So what does that make the last 70 years of American leadership under our “democratic” form of government? We have been blindly serving the military industrial complex for decades now. The true threat comes from believing we are the heroes based on a media contrived narrative which is anything but the truth.
I remember the first time Wycombe this film and thinking how hot Diz was… until her nude scene.
This is why breast implants became so popular.
funny thing is, Verhoeven really did seduce us to join ST's world and then made us ask "What's the cost for it, what are you actually joining in"….
…..except basically every other SciFi setting kinda sucks to be in (Halo? we're getting our planets glassed every other day – Star Wars? galaxy-wide rebellion and imperialist regime and poverty – Battlestar Galactica? humanity's down to 50.000 souls travelling as pariah among the stars – Firefly/Serenity? Earth is no more, and the ones that left went into a civil war that left the new system basically a space Mad Max setting – Alien? big corpos willingly set up colonies in xenomorph land as an experiment for the luls – Dead Space? space zombies, nuff said – Warhammer 40k? don't even get me started….basically just Star Trek is somewhat decent, and that is not counting Romulan aggressions, Klingon incursions or Borg threats)…..it's kind of ironic that Verhoeven's "Fascist Utopia" doesn't look all that bad compared to every other full blown dystopia in space
Wait that movie was anti fashist?
Nothing wrong with the regime in the movie. 😂
I actually saw this movie in Buenos Aires 😂….and i loved it.. pure entertainment and a thinker…
I did not expect to see humans sympathizing with bugs.
This is an adult movie