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On today’s episode, the history guy talks about the United States Coast Guard, and two of their contributions to combat in the World Wars. First, the history guy tells the story of the USCGC Tampa, which served in WWI and became the largest naval combat casualty loss of the war. Then the history guy talks about the USCGC Icarus, which faced a larger and better armed german u-boat in torpedo alley in 1942.
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The U.S. Coast Guard was formed in 1790 . Its the oldest sea going services in the United States.
Curiously enough I used to have the WW1 medals to a Royal Navy Sailor , who was taking passge in TAMPA , to a new posting. He was an Able seaman , E .W Jefferies. He will be listed on the CWGC website. For better or worse, I sold his medals (Known as a "trio") several years ago. Until I came upon those medals, I had no idea regarding the loss of TAMPA. P/S Look up the Dix Noonan Webb site. You will find them listed in the auction archive.
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Thank you for bringing attention to the service of the Coast Guard.
Should not have surprised me that you would talk about something USCG. An interesting, little known, one would a look at the heroics of some of the Lighthouse Keepers.
Not all were men.
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Great stuff here THG. But one thing to think about is moving most of the information at the beginning of the pod cast to like 10 or 15minutes into the cast for a “break” or something from the reason why I clicked on the video. The long introduction almost cause me to just move on. Anyway, just a thought.
Before the mid 1950's accordians were very popular. When Rock & Roll began making the news, many thought, that it might corrupt youth. The Accordian niche of the music industry was controlled by a cabal of sorts. They decided, that Rock & Roll was a passing fad and decided to actively go against Rock & Roll using the youth corruption angle, thinking it would meaningfully endear them to parents by discouraging the use of accordians in Rock & Roll by any means necessary.
An early Rock & Roll act, such as Bill Haley & the Comets, might actually have an accordian player, but because the Accordian Industrial Complex discouraged them, later acts might have a Hammond B3 organ or some other keyboard in it's place. Of course, The Accordian Industrial Complex chose the wrong side of history to be on, leaving accordian relegated to regional Zydeco & Polka music.
To extinguish lights.
Coasties, attention to orders! To the brethren, all is well, safely rest, God is nigh.
😏 go West Young Man. And bring your accordion….
Thank you for changing my attitude about the USCG. Also Weird Al Yankovic plays the accordion
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I saw Star Trek first run, I was 12, I turned 13 that year, but later in the fall. The local NBC station didn't run it, but we had cable, Capital Cable, owned by Lady Bird Johnson. I watched that first season out of San Antonio.
The puddle pirates of the knee deep Navy. Because don't all good stories involve Pirates?😃
An example of a submarine kill that wasn’t believed happened at Pearl Harbor. A patrol boat saw the submarine working its way into the harbor and fired upon it and sunk it but because no one could find any part of it they figured the men just saw a whale or something. It wasn’t until quite recently that some individuals we’re able to re-create a more accurate track of the sinking submarine is it spiral down into the bottom and as predicted by their model the Japanese submarine ended up much further outside Pearl Harbor than one might’ve expected. The discovery proved the reports about that submarine on that faithful day before the aircraft came flying in.
In regards to a learning curve, Pearl Harbor ended up being the naval disaster it was because the Admiralty at the Pentagon wanted to prove our capital ships were more than a match for the Japanese. When you consider that one, not a single aircraft carrier was in the area. Secondly everyone knew the Japanese fleet was out there somewhere and they were on the hunt. Third the admiralty had commented that the capital ship will always be the center of a naval battle group because they were so hung up in World War I and earlier naval tactics. Fourth the president deliberately made the Japanese delegates wait in the hall till after the attack so they could not declare war making the attack on Pearl Harbor out to be a cowardly act of attacking without notifying the enemy of the fact we were at war. One could say that the Japanese had that intention almost from the start because they could’ve gone in a day or more early to declare war instead of trying to make it a synchronize step within just a few hours of the attack. What kind of funny is the best market already been sunk and what made it possible for the British Navy to sink the greatest largest capital ship ever to see the open ocean? A World War I biplane with a torpedo launch from a catapult sling mount it on the side of a ship and would’ve been retrieved with a crane to put back onto the catapult sling because there was no runaway. The aircraft with simply land in the ocean and the pilot would hook up the aircraft to the crane so that it could be brought back aboard to be refueled and re-armed. But that’s another story, I still Believe and to my dying day show believe that the admirals at the Pentagon honestly figured they would see the Japanese Navy coming over to horizon there at Pearl Harbor and they would send the American Navy out to do battle with them. However the commanding admiral of the Japanese Navy probably said it best when after the attack was over he commented that he feared all he had done was wake the sleeping giant.
My Great Great Grandfather enlisted at 16 in the 8th New Jersey Infantry at the beginning of the Civil War.
The most famous accordion artist I can think of is Weird Al
About 'Learning the accordion' – in that era a lot of people got by playing music on street corners for tips in a hat, and an accordion was a lot easier to learn to play and carry about than many other musical instruments. Also, an accordion was a common instrument for local dance hall bands.
Think Audie Murphy. Wasn't he 15?
Sorry, 16.
You commented upon the young ages of sailors on the TAMPA and how mere teenagers could and would join the military for WWI and WWII. What you might not know is that such is not isolated in antiquity. Even TODAY, the average age of a sailor in the US Navy is only 19 1/2 years old. There are a slew of teenagers to average the age out for one crusty old Captain!
https://www.history.uscg.mil/Complete-Time-Line/Time-Line-1700-1800/
Folks, I talked to both of my grandfathers about their service in the Great War. They both volunteered around age 17. The first went into the US Army because he had a skill that was very much in demand – he was a furrier in the cavalry. The second joined the Navy as he wanted to see the world. The latter lied about his age and when he was found to be underweight, he started a diet of bananas and milk until he gained 12 pounds. In both cases, they looked for the excitement of getting out of the area as they had probably not travelled more than 50 miles from home – like many their age.
Tell the story of how Winsto Churchill and the Wall Street bankers conspired to bring America into the war with the Lusitania. Wall Street had loaned GB billions and a loss by England would mean a default on those loans. So England and the bankers had to get the US into the war. Look it up….