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Nerf zen
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I still think it was the wrong nerf for Zen, Discord should start with the 25% dmg, then it drops to 10% after 1 ot 2 seconds
Finally junkerqueens ult got a radius reduce, that shit was MASSIVE
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This patch is not that bad
I honestly think the doom fix was needed since beta 1
i still think discord should only effect zens damage, so he can still protect himself against flankers, and it wouldn't be as oppressive on the enemy team cause your teammates would no longer get damage buff on discorded targets. buff his healing orb a touch with hps and i think it would work well.
What about damage scaling for discord orb with distance to the target
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Commanding Shout is easily in the same tier as Immortality Field & Discord Orb, it's so OP.
I agree, Junker Queen needs a damage buff and/or stronger CC
Gotta love it how zen was broken in beta 1 so they BUFFED him in beta 2 and then when he was even more broken they semi-reverted it and called it a day. I feel like discord is just beyond op at the moment
Tbh doom buffs aren’t significant imo he still just dies through power block and most other tanking abilities (bubble, kinetic grasp, defense matrix etc) are still a lot better (they also deny hard stuns like sleep for example)
Also his slam is genuinely a cosmetic ability the fact that they took away his slow makes 0 sense
Dooms powerblock isn't directional and is always a small distance away from doom. It's like a small bap window in front of him. If you look up as doom to catch a pharah rocket, you just take full damage and don't get any charge. That's one of the issues I have with power block. Getquakedon has a video showing this.
Zen is such a pain man…he melts tanks so fast 😂
Tbh I think a nice reaper buff could be giving him the speed boost after TP like they had in the experimental patch awhile ago. Would be great for improving his flanking opportunities and tp ulting, just give my boy some love blizzard 🙁
i think discord would be less strong if it was changed to a damage over time ability from a damage boost
as a zen main, it's kinda painful to see this nerf but i know it was needed. The Orisa buffs are cool though.
Doom needs his uppercut even without damage or wall climb. His lack of mobility kills his kit right now.
I think lowering doom's block damage required again would increase skill ceiling even more, because enemies would need to think more about doom actions. In a few shots they could charge his punch. So they would train not shooting at him and doom player would have more ground to grow because now that people don't shoot too much their block they need to brain out their enemies.
You know what would fix all these tank and support issues? A second fucking tank.
They need to nerf discord though. Makes tank not fun especially with Moira's new orb. Junker Queen will be useless because of Moira now.
What about making rein a juggernaut, like 700 health total, or 500 of full armor. Idk what it would do.
i didnt like this zen nerf, the problem with him is not the extra hp they added, is the damage potential it has, its like a dps, they should lower this damage to 42 per ball and lower the discord orb to 20% bônus and keep the health pool at 225
Just got access to the beta, and I knew Moira would be completely broken with her new damage negation ability. Ran her in games for an hour, stomped every single one. You can duel literally anyone in the game, you can debuff an entire grouped up team that is trying to push in, you can save people from ults, and on top of this you can do pretty much anything a flanker can do – but far better. If flank Moira wasn't already a strat, it sure is now.
You can literally fade through the entire enemy team, purple orb them in the back, and just survive in their backline for its duration and then you have fade available again to get out. It's free backline pressure and kill potential every single team fight. And its hitbox is very forgiving given its value potential – it's certainly not that much of a skill shot compared to ana's sleep dart for example – and it has arguably far better value potential. And with its cooldown being 16 second sure is high, but if we compare to OW1 Moira where you have to chose between heal or dmg orb, the cooldown is essentially the same over the course of a fight and you get the same utility potential but with more flexibility to how you use your cooldowns.
I think its dmg reduction will get lowered to 50% and potentially have the splash radius lessened.
Racist against Zen. OMNIC HATER.
was fun while it lasted boys. fully agree taking away the 25 health. sucks because it was just fun to have as a zen main but seriously was too much on top of having discord on what it is currently. AND having his boop. my boy became a bully. hopefully blizzard sees the real issue as flats discussed perfectly. changes need to occur more than ever now on OW2 with the discord orb. its now more of a problem with just one tank.
ow2 servers suck. bring back scatter arrow
I think it's hilarious that you bring up GOATS as an example considering it never saw ANY success outside of GM/Top 500. It's even more hilarious how you are having a top down balance conversation with your bronze chat.