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Is Pride and Prejudice a better love story than Twilight? We definitely think so!
Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker, filmmaker Alan Seawright, and Cinema Therapy writer/producer Megan Seawright take a look at why the classic Jane Austen enemies to lovers story actually works, why people still love it today, and whether or not Darcy and Elizabeth are actually a good match. They’re talking about what it takes to actually change, to acknowledge when you’re wrong, and to overcome your pride and prejudice to see people for who they truly are. And how Megan and Alan’s relationship started out a bit like Darcy and Elizabeth’s…
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Written by: Megan Seawright, Jonathan Decker and Alan Seawright
Produced by: Jonathan Decker, Megan Seawright, Alan Seawright, and Sophie Tellez
Edited by: Sophie Téllez
Director of Photography: Bradley Olsen
English Transcription by: Anna Preis
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At the beginning of the video, when you say that putting someone instead of yourself is not the same as putting someone ahead of yourself…could you elucidate on that please?
it's not a boring shot, you're not a female.
One of the things that I really like about the relationship between Elizabeth and Mr. Darcy is that after he gives her a backhanded compliment, she turns around and just dishes it right at him. She is the queen of snark in this movie.
I would love to see your takes on Bridgerton! Obvs not a movie, but it would be fascinating to hear what you guys think
Imagine you were Elizabeth, out at dawn, not expecting to bump into anyone, least of all the man who has been on your mind all night. You watch this man make his way slowly to you with his slightly dishevelled- "I just woke up"- look and wonder what he would say when he finally reaches you. A polite good morning and swift good day? Or something more?
That walk was not boring.
Stephenie Meyer has said in past interviews that she majored in English because she thought it would be easy to get graded for reading. That degree of ignorance is reflected clearly in the Twilight series. She tried to thematically tie each book to a work of literature but she grossly misinterpreted the literature she used for theme. She's the sort who would unironically state "Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet was the greatest romantic play of all time!" because she didn't pay attention and missed the fact it was written to be a tragedy. With Edward, we see evidence of Stephenie Meyers being inspired by literary figures like Darcy but falling short of understanding what makes them great. So we get a guy who is brooding, rude, and controlling and we're told that he's desirable because of those things rather than that he becomes desirable once he evolves away from those things. On another note, I would love to see your analysis of Crimson Peak. It's one of those films that I felt was underrated and not given the appreciation it deserved, largely due to a misunderstanding by the audience of what it was supposed to be. They went in expecting standard jump scares and what they got was a thoughtful homage to the gothic horror genre. I'm a literary major and my friend is a psychologist and we've both spent hours talking about that movie and sharing insights. There's everything from the traditional gothic tropes to nods to other works of literature, bit of Jane Eyre and even Pride and Prejudice in there. My friend loves looking at the psychological side of things in the characters. It's definitely one of those movies that are great to watch and discuss afterward. Guillermo Del Toro put so many subtle details and symbolism that the cinematography is truly a master-class.
My husband asked for my father’s blessing. I’m 82.
Did you watch the UK ending (didn't have the tacked on awful scene in his mansion on the balcony), which is left where she tells her dad she wants to marry darcy? I thought that was so so well done. The DVD I had had an option to watch the american ending and man… talk about a different film!
Both of my brothers-in-law asked my dad for my sisters' hand. He was quite pleased. But me, at 44 I'm f'd and if, by some miracle, was to find someone quite soon and get pregnant (I'm not holding my fn breath) It would be high risk/geriatric pregnancy and I would have to go off my bipolar meds during those precious months. I loathe the people that take their precious little families for granted.
FTW I wanna get off
What excellent boiled potatoes, it's been many years since I've had such an exemplary vegetable
I can’t believe you made it through the entire commentary and never once mentioned the word Narcissist
Do you not see Darcy as at least having Narcissistic traits (perhaps not full blown NPD)
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Costumes amazing, music amazing, witt amazing, acting amazing, just amazing, amazing 🎶
"no. I prefer to be unsociable and taciturn" 🔥
21:46 i don't think its swagger. He knows who he is. His walk is different, the way he wears his clothes. This is a different man walking to her now. A better man
So the therapist doesn't really reacts to this video. It mostly the woman that reacts.
I absolutely love this book, but this movie version was not my favorite. I prefer the dryness of the Regency type versions you mention early on. This video helped me appreciate this version more.
This is a horrible version!!! It’s a disgrace to Jane Austen!!! Review the 1995 please!!! So.much.better
This is my absolute favorite movie and favorite love story of all time! I enjoy this video a ton : )
One of my top five favorite movies
Lol I should probably watch you guys shitting on Twilight before I comment but the constant comparison is driving me nuts!!! This version of Pride and Prejudice is one of my favorite movies though I do love the series version as well Colin Freaking Firth !!!! So look comparing Edward to Darcy is insane as they don't have the same objections to thier love interest Darcy is his rank. Edward's isn't something that simple she's human and he resents that him as a "vegan" vampire is enticed not only by her blood but just her as a person as he can't read her thoughts. So same with comparing Bella and Elizabeth like Bella is passionate for the first time about someone and him being not like any other guy changes her normal reactions she'd probably have to a guy. In her eyes he's other worldly. Elizabeth has a more rebellious reaction to Darcy not dancing with her and thinking of her as low born. Though she is still effect by his presence and probably behaving definitely than normal. Though I'd like to point out she's not above looking at a man like Bella looked at a man and immediately getting doe eyed Wickham is when that happens. He plays along just to have access to the more vulnerable sister. Lastly the movie director for Twilight made a very interesting movie that I tend to like for aesthetic and imagination reasons as every other Twilight movie lacks that it became a bit too block blustery and never balance as LOTR or Potter as they are completely fantasy. So yeah I'll just appreciate it for that reason the 1st Twilight was fantasy. Oh but hey can you imagine what Joe Wright could have done with a decent Twilight script with more "Midnight sun" storyline that Robert wanted to do but they disliked that… Anyways I love Pride and Prejudice as a story and I'm sure Stephanie would enjoy you comparing Alice to a Bennett sister and Rose to Bingley's Sister but Jacob is too good of a person to be Wickham so I guess it would be James it's just hard to see Edward as similar to Darcy just because of a cold exteriors. Then Bella and Lizzy are nothing alike so because one is more witty she's better 🤷🏾♀️ Just say you hate Twilight and let me watch this reaction in peace 🤦🏾♀️
The only thing that annoys me is that some actors have too contemporary face features and they should not be cast in period movies… I am not speaking about physical beauty, nor about acting skills, just about reconstruction of the feeling of those times. People looked different. I look at Keira's face and I think of 2000s, not of 1700s-1800s. 😕 Takes me out of the story… Everything else is wonderful. 🙌
Has anyone talked about autistic people relating to Darcy in some of his socializing behaviors?
I think something that gets lost is that the Bennett's are the wealthiest family in the area, by far. To the people of _shire, they're the Darcy's. No-one's gonna chat shit behind their backs or be rude to their faces, which allows them to get away with their eccentricities – it allows Mr Bennett to be reclusive and Mrs Bennett to be eccentric and not give her girls 'proper' schooling. As much as the book is about Darcy and Elizabeth and their growth, it's about Elizabeth and Jane (particularly) being confronted with their family's shortcomings in the context of real wealth and the upper-class, and how they recognise that they can love their family dearly and still distance themselves and become their own people DESPITE them.
Movie trivia: the scene in the rain was written FOR them. Kiera Knightley, uncommonly for Hollywood, was cast first, as so did the casting reads with the Darcy auditionees. Matthew comes in, and reads, and they do the scene almost exactly like this – even though it wasn't written that way. They get closer and closer, and even do that small lean in for the kiss at the end before realising and pulling away, and Joe Wright saw it and was like 'THAT'S IT'. And then adapted the scene from the original Collins' house (where it's set in the book) to be outside, in the rain, with the thunder, to punctuate the pure drama and chemistry the two actors created
This movie version removes the complexity of the events. The 1995 version let's you wonder does the dad really care about her as much as she believes. Her mom does a sh*t job of matchmaking but her dad doesn't give a sh*t that they may be left poor and homeless by her not marrying. He doesn't take seriously how not checking his daughter's behavior leads to what would have been disastrous to all the daughters. Looking at his actions from the correct morals and reality of the day (not our happy ending modern rules) he was a terrible father to his daughters' future.
I love this movie. Technically Darcy and Elizabeth are of the same class but he is way richer. She is the daughter of a gentleman and he is a gentleman. Her mother however comes from a lower class family. Technically Elizabeth’s sister Jane is a higher class than Bingley which makes his sister’s hypocrisy that much more since she cares so much about class and makes fun of Elizabeth’s family. Bingley is from a rich merchant family.
Please do Jane Eyre (2011)
Megan was an insightful voice here, I like her drawing attention to the camera work.
I love love love love love this so much. I really hoped I would've seen you guys react to how Darcy stretched his hand after holding Lizzy's. It was heartwarming and small but so relatable, I do it after I hold hands with a crush and it's such simple body language, such a non-verbal confession. I enjoyed their body language so much. Darcy is so awkward to me, a spectacular introvert who was adopted by his extroverted redhead bestie who he'd do anything to keep him safe. Though I definitely feel like past experiences with that gold digger (his name leaves my mind in a blink) lead him to mistrust 'love' very heavily, especially when it comes with class. He is so clearly shown as a product of his upbringing so well that it's intriguing
"Darcy evolves and that's why it works" 👏
Darcy. You beautiful character
A beautiful story and message. Say yes Elizabeth ❤
I gotta say I love it when you continually trash talk Twilight because I remember when it came out (kind of alongside 50 shades of grey) and I was a budding music therapist thinking to myself “why is this type of love being romanticized and normalized?!” So I’m glad someone from a platform is finally calling this out and offering examples of healthy relationship patterns. 🎉
“Whitest movie ever”
If they had placed a token white person in an Asian period piece you’d be crying foul. This is Regency England, they’re all white. Get over it.
This is the absolute best ad ever 😆
I had no interest in seeing this movie for so long and did not think MM was very attractive at the beginning. By the end, I was completely swooning.
I love that the movie didnt need nudity to be incredibly good.