I made a similar comment on G3’s podcast. They said something along the lines of “you’re playing into their hands” but it’s their fright of being labeled a CN that leads to not doing anything in the name of a Christ that is the real play
God bless you as well. Here's where I've ended up : stop trying to 4D chess every little thing and just live how Christ told you. Call out evil and stop thinking in 'pragmatic' ways. All we have to do is tell the Truth.
AD: A sincere request: In the past you had slammed Boebert, who is one of the few members in Congress to publicly proclaim Christ is Lord. Remember, almost everything you know about her is the slime from the media and out of context misquotes. Just something to consider.
We should note that CN already has an example in putting the principles of CN into practice with the Abolition movement. The Abolition movement has been successful where the prolife and it's generational impotence has failed. The Abolitionists are bold in their proclamation that Christ is King and they are merely following His command without apology. Furthermore, the clear proclamation of God's law can bring either repentance or it could bring judgement to unrighteous rulers.
For many years I've questioned why Christians should be bounded by the state's notion of the separation of church and state while non Christians had no constraints against them engaging in the public sphere. If Jesus is Lord of all (and he is) then as his representatives on earth we should proclaim and extol his kingship and claim all peoples and institutions as his subjects.
Right on. Immediately it's all back to the crusades and inquisition and nothing less. As if the current system wasn't oppressive and unjust. You really have to wonder what ultimate vision they serve, and how realistic THAT is.
There's no reason to promote the term Christian Nationalism. Instead, we need a proper, biblical view of civil government. We also need to preach the gospel, raise our children to follow Christ, and pray that God will be pleased to bring huge numbers of people to salvation.
In your video today you pointed out that a lot of non-CN Christians are concerned about bigotry and persecution coming about in some future CN government.
This is not exactly the concern.
The concern is not about what might come about in the future, but about what is being taught as an ideal for people to believe in right now.
Being taught to hold an incorrect ideal has a poor effect on people spiritually and eventually it makes them less effective as salt and light in the world.
The thing we think is a poor ideal is the vision Wolfe put forward in his book.
We are criticizing that as a vision.
I’m not sure how many ways I can say this:
We have no fear that CNs will succeed.
We have fear that they will divide and confuse the Christians and fail—and that the victor will be something that could not have come about so easily, had Christians been united around correct principles.
"Acknowledging Christ…" Didn't Paul say that the only way anyone can say "Jesus is Lord" is by the Holy Spirit? The more I hear about Christian Nationalism the more irrelevant it appears to me to be having this conversation. as Christians we need to be calling Caesar to repentance.
Seems that Stephen may be in on the whole scheme to depict Christian Nationalism as racist. It has always been suspiciously convenient that, while the God-haters had invented this "Christian Nationalism" movement which didn't exist, suddenly Stephen was working to make it a reality for them. Then, they want to slander Christian Nationalism as racist, but no one is saying anything racist; Stephen can't let them down! Instead of God and His Gospel being our lone political bulwark, now we've replaced God and the Gospel with white evangelicals simply because we are too proud to admit that Stephen was wrong on a couple of facts. There would be zero ability to slander us as racist, if Stephen had not deliberately race-trolled on the topic. Stephen sure does seem very convenient for our enemies, even suspiciously so.
If Tom Buck is finally showing his hand that he has always been one of the infiltrators and he was deliberately providing a narrative for our enemies' use, then why not Stephen too?
Setting aside the conspiracy theories, the only thing dividing me from the Christian Nationalism movement, is that my lone political bulwark is God and His Gospel while theirs is white evangelicals. I'm not going to go along with that silliness; it's not gonna happen. I'm on the winning side, where God is our lone political bulwark (not G3's side, just the simple faithful Christian side, which is humble and honest enough to admit that Stephen's statements were in significant error, and yet not naive enough to be corralled to one side or another of a dysfunctional infight). We cannot move forward whilst we have replaced our trustworthy bulwark with an unreliable one. These are spiritual matters where words are everything, and absolutely God and His Gospel is the ONLY lone bulwark we have. Facts are fact. Words are words. Males are not females. Cultural "Christianity" is not Christian culture. When it comes time for political battle, some trust in horses, some trust in white evangelicals, but we are going to remember the name of Yhvh our God. Faithful Christian politics is going to continue, whether the Christian Nationalism movement is with us or not; few as we may be, we remain with our only Lone Bulwark Lord Jesus Christ our God.
Taking James Lindsay from the perspective of a secular liberal that has done some important research on Godless commies so the way I view his work. He may have a voice, but he has no standing beyond this life unless he decides to serve Christ.
Brother AD, I’m trying my best to reasonably digest both sides of the conflict by trying to keep up with videos made by those who are for and against CN.
But I do not understand how in one video you could advocate for the Christian who does not need to “make it easy” for pagans to persecute them if one adopts a mindset of trench warfare, but yet in this video, you go very hard against Christians who may have their reasons to believe that CN is playing into the enemies hands and are encouraging other believers of the danger of following this mindset. Please explain and help me understand
I also think you are strawmanning the opposition of CN, just like how they straw man how dangerous and oppressive CN is. Oh my! How awful it would be to live under a Christian government! (Clearly sarcasm on my part) Though, I do not believe they would advocate on refusing to say Jesus is Lord or even proclaiming him in the political office. I think the opponents are more concerned about the aspect of labeling and the separating of believers in groups of ideologues based on preferences and not actually thinking through what the adherence to a specific name means and it’s consequences.
(In my opinion, it may be best for a Christian to say “I am neither for or against Christian Nationalism. Nevertheless, Christ is Lord and he commands obedience from all nations.” I believe the goal is to divide believers, and this issue isn’t even a gospel issue like the conflict between believers regarding Social Justice. It’s more of an issue regarding Christian practice, one’s praxeology.
For the sake of seeking a more clear answer, let’s say if James Lindsay wasn’t a problem and if it were only Christians speaking on the dangers of CN and a psyop, would you still be as ardently opposed to brothers who of this perspective of viewing the political scene as one of trench warfare? And, is it not possible that they are introducing a type of trench warfare in the spiritual war and encouraging others to not make it easy for the enemy to win?
(The video in which you advocate for some to be in front and those to be in the trenches is here)
Ironically there is a much more profound statism behind the anti-CN assumptions. They seem to assume 1. the only ways CN seeks to accomplish its project are with state power and/or 2. the current regime is no less invincible than corrupt, and thus any resistance is doomed to play into their trap.
They're so worried about Boromir that they don't realize they've become Denethor: "against the Power that now arises there is no victory."
It’s crazy to think any Christian would have a problem with structuring our judicial systems according to the Bible, there is no other better system 👍🏻
“The cost is now high to be a Christian in politics.” Bingo, AD. The current state is indeed the epitome of incompetence and inefficiency. But it is the product of the Enlightenment (Modernism), which produced socialism and Marxism. Cultural Marxism rules the institutions. It has taken four centuries to arrive at this point. It’s no coincidence that as a materialistic worldview has increased, Christian worldview decreased. Christendom is dead. We are being reminded that Christians are exiles in Babylon at this point (regardless of eschatology). Post-Millennial Reconstructionists are a small fraction of Bible-believing Christianity. 1%? 5%? The majority are pre-Millennial and waiting for a rapture. Thankfully there are variances across the states and areas that still possess a greater presence of a Christians. But my state of California is a Christian desert. Short of a move of God’s Spirit (always possible!) there will be no move towards a Christian worldview.
So what do I do? I become a Daniel in my society and assemble with the saints on the Lord’s Day to climb Mount Zion and commune with Christ. There I am reminded that he rules. He is on his throne. I gratefully receive the ordinary means of grace. I raise my children likewise, equipping them to be Daniels, living and proclaiming the gospel. It is likely that persecution will increase and we will share in the suffering of our Lord. We pray for courage and boldness. We pray for revival. We pray for our rulers. And we love our neighbors by working in our given vocations to better the town in which we live, that it may flourish.
The term "Christian Nationalism" or any related term is not ONCE mentioned in Scripture, so this is a silly debate.
We are called to live and preach the Gospel and to be at peace with those around us. As much as it depends on us of course. We aren't called to create a "Christian" nation. If it happens, it is simply God's will and due to mass repentance.
The G3 – James Lindsey relationship is pretty weird. I mean, why would we ever listen to a pagan? It’s okay if he listens to us and is, therefore, inconsistent. The opposite isn’t.
The American church believes in separation of church and state far more than they believe 10 commandments. Meanwhile never realizing their favorite phrase of love God and love people is straight from Jesus' s summary of the 10 C moral laws.
Christian N is the new racism accusation because the R has lost its ability to freeze people and politicians in their tracks.
Yes, it's simple. The secular left is a religious cult. Their holy sacrament is murdering babies.
Now you know what the tizzy was about when some folks walked through their “hallowed halls” on j6
Oh my goodness thank you. They say every response we can conceive of "plays into theirs hands". Baloney. The wrong move is to do nothing.
I made a similar comment on G3’s podcast. They said something along the lines of “you’re playing into their hands” but it’s their fright of being labeled a CN that leads to not doing anything in the name of a Christ that is the real play
This is like a pressuppositional argument with an atheist.
Referring to racism as racism is quite straight forward
All government is godless
Praise God!!! They win if we give them the turf. We must not concede home field advantage!
God bless you as well. Here's where I've ended up : stop trying to 4D chess every little thing and just live how Christ told you. Call out evil and stop thinking in 'pragmatic' ways. All we have to do is tell the Truth.
AD: A sincere request: In the past you had slammed Boebert, who is one of the few members in Congress to publicly proclaim Christ is Lord. Remember, almost everything you know about her is the slime from the media and out of context misquotes. Just something to consider.
You fell for it. https://youtu.be/ky0YV6Q4YPk
Making this video is exactly what 'they' wanted you to do.
The gov’t, the woke, G3, Big Eva, etc… all have the same strategy: call everything racist/bigoted/hateful until they control it.
Thanks AD for reminding the faithful that if the woke and queer call you racist and bigoted you are probably doing something right
Nice retro feel. It looks like you are broadcasting from the 1990s.
You do know God wins this war right?
Have you read G3's book review? No surprise that Scott Aniol is firmly against the Christ is Lord billboards. It really says a lot.
An ignorance of "isms" and "ologies" boils down to equating Nazism to Christian Nationalism.
So when are you running for a government seat?
You're my new fave. Great videos! God bless your courage.
Endorsing secularism, aka actively holding it up as good = Jesus is not Lord. Which is a lie. Pretty simple.
Partnering with a atheist is a desperate move in my opinion.
We should note that CN already has an example in putting the principles of CN into practice with the Abolition movement. The Abolition movement has been successful where the prolife and it's generational impotence has failed. The Abolitionists are bold in their proclamation that Christ is King and they are merely following His command without apology. Furthermore, the clear proclamation of God's law can bring either repentance or it could bring judgement to unrighteous rulers.
Sounds like backhanded blasphemy. Manipulate the term enough so as to drag God’s name through the mud.
Don’t worry AD. Megan Basham has been summoned. You’ll never talk about that.
For many years I've questioned why Christians should be bounded by the state's notion of the separation of church and state while non Christians had no constraints against them engaging in the public sphere. If Jesus is Lord of all (and he is) then as his representatives on earth we should proclaim and extol his kingship and claim all peoples and institutions as his subjects.
Right on. Immediately it's all back to the crusades and inquisition and nothing less.
As if the current system wasn't oppressive and unjust. You really have to wonder what ultimate vision they serve, and how realistic THAT is.
‘Oh no, don’t do that, that’s what they WANT you to do!!!!!’
Good. Because I want to do it to.
There's no reason to promote the term Christian Nationalism. Instead, we need a proper, biblical view of civil government. We also need to preach the gospel, raise our children to follow Christ, and pray that God will be pleased to bring huge numbers of people to salvation.
If the cost of being biblical is high, pay it. Christ is Lord!
In your video today you pointed out that a lot of non-CN Christians are concerned about bigotry and persecution coming about in some future CN government.
This is not exactly the concern.
The concern is not about what might come about in the future, but about what is being taught as an ideal for people to believe in right now.
Being taught to hold an incorrect ideal has a poor effect on people spiritually and eventually it makes them less effective as salt and light in the world.
The thing we think is a poor ideal is the vision Wolfe put forward in his book.
We are criticizing that as a vision.
I’m not sure how many ways I can say this:
We have no fear that CNs will succeed.
We have fear that they will divide and confuse the Christians and fail—and that the victor will be something that could not have come about so easily, had Christians been united around correct principles.
Hiya. We don't have kings and lords nowadays. We have presidents and prime ministers. I don't see 'president of presidents' in my Bible. Do you?
"Acknowledging Christ…" Didn't Paul say that the only way anyone can say "Jesus is Lord" is by the Holy Spirit? The more I hear about Christian Nationalism the more irrelevant it appears to me to be having this conversation. as Christians we need to be calling Caesar to repentance.
Lindsay understands Marxism really well. Really well. But when it comes to Christians in the public square, not so much.
Seems that Stephen may be in on the whole scheme to depict Christian Nationalism as racist. It has always been suspiciously convenient that, while the God-haters had invented this "Christian Nationalism" movement which didn't exist, suddenly Stephen was working to make it a reality for them. Then, they want to slander Christian Nationalism as racist, but no one is saying anything racist; Stephen can't let them down! Instead of God and His Gospel being our lone political bulwark, now we've replaced God and the Gospel with white evangelicals simply because we are too proud to admit that Stephen was wrong on a couple of facts. There would be zero ability to slander us as racist, if Stephen had not deliberately race-trolled on the topic. Stephen sure does seem very convenient for our enemies, even suspiciously so.
If Tom Buck is finally showing his hand that he has always been one of the infiltrators and he was deliberately providing a narrative for our enemies' use, then why not Stephen too?
Setting aside the conspiracy theories, the only thing dividing me from the Christian Nationalism movement, is that my lone political bulwark is God and His Gospel while theirs is white evangelicals. I'm not going to go along with that silliness; it's not gonna happen. I'm on the winning side, where God is our lone political bulwark (not G3's side, just the simple faithful Christian side, which is humble and honest enough to admit that Stephen's statements were in significant error, and yet not naive enough to be corralled to one side or another of a dysfunctional infight). We cannot move forward whilst we have replaced our trustworthy bulwark with an unreliable one. These are spiritual matters where words are everything, and absolutely God and His Gospel is the ONLY lone bulwark we have. Facts are fact. Words are words. Males are not females. Cultural "Christianity" is not Christian culture. When it comes time for political battle, some trust in horses, some trust in white evangelicals, but we are going to remember the name of Yhvh our God. Faithful Christian politics is going to continue, whether the Christian Nationalism movement is with us or not; few as we may be, we remain with our only Lone Bulwark Lord Jesus Christ our God.
Taking James Lindsay from the perspective of a secular liberal that has done some important research on Godless commies so the way I view his work. He may have a voice, but he has no standing beyond this life unless he decides to serve Christ.
Christian nationalism only means white nationalism if you use the woke definition of Christian. Awesome video AD, thanks!
Persecution for the name of Christ….hmmmm…..where have I read about that before?…..
Helpful
Brother AD, I’m trying my best to reasonably digest both sides of the conflict by trying to keep up with videos made by those who are for and against CN.
But I do not understand how in one video you could advocate for the Christian who does not need to “make it easy” for pagans to persecute them if one adopts a mindset of trench warfare, but yet in this video, you go very hard against Christians who may have their reasons to believe that CN is playing into the enemies hands and are encouraging other believers of the danger of following this mindset. Please explain and help me understand
I also think you are strawmanning the opposition of CN, just like how they straw man how dangerous and oppressive CN is. Oh my! How awful it would be to live under a Christian government! (Clearly sarcasm on my part) Though, I do not believe they would advocate on refusing to say Jesus is Lord or even proclaiming him in the political office. I think the opponents are more concerned about the aspect of labeling and the separating of believers in groups of ideologues based on preferences and not actually thinking through what the adherence to a specific name means and it’s consequences.
(In my opinion, it may be best for a Christian to say “I am neither for or against Christian Nationalism. Nevertheless, Christ is Lord and he commands obedience from all nations.” I believe the goal is to divide believers, and this issue isn’t even a gospel issue like the conflict between believers regarding Social Justice. It’s more of an issue regarding Christian practice, one’s praxeology.
For the sake of seeking a more clear answer, let’s say if James Lindsay wasn’t a problem and if it were only Christians speaking on the dangers of CN and a psyop, would you still be as ardently opposed to brothers who of this perspective of viewing the political scene as one of trench warfare? And, is it not possible that they are introducing a type of trench warfare in the spiritual war and encouraging others to not make it easy for the enemy to win?
(The video in which you advocate for some to be in front and those to be in the trenches is here)
https://youtu.be/hPulYY7376g
I’ve been thinking this. Thank you for verbalizing this important message
Ironically there is a much more profound statism behind the anti-CN assumptions. They seem to assume 1. the only ways CN seeks to accomplish its project are with state power and/or 2. the current regime is no less invincible than corrupt, and thus any resistance is doomed to play into their trap.
They're so worried about Boromir that they don't realize they've become Denethor: "against the Power that now arises there is no victory."
It’s crazy to think any Christian would have a problem with structuring our judicial systems according to the Bible, there is no other better system 👍🏻
“The cost is now high to be a Christian in politics.” Bingo, AD. The current state is indeed the epitome of incompetence and inefficiency. But it is the product of the Enlightenment (Modernism), which produced socialism and Marxism. Cultural Marxism rules the institutions. It has taken four centuries to arrive at this point. It’s no coincidence that as a materialistic worldview has increased, Christian worldview decreased. Christendom is dead. We are being reminded that Christians are exiles in Babylon at this point (regardless of eschatology). Post-Millennial Reconstructionists are a small fraction of Bible-believing Christianity. 1%? 5%? The majority are pre-Millennial and waiting for a rapture. Thankfully there are variances across the states and areas that still possess a greater presence of a Christians. But my state of California is a Christian desert. Short of a move of God’s Spirit (always possible!) there will be no move towards a Christian worldview.
So what do I do? I become a Daniel in my society and assemble with the saints on the Lord’s Day to climb Mount Zion and commune with Christ. There I am reminded that he rules. He is on his throne. I gratefully receive the ordinary means of grace. I raise my children likewise, equipping them to be Daniels, living and proclaiming the gospel. It is likely that persecution will increase and we will share in the suffering of our Lord. We pray for courage and boldness. We pray for revival. We pray for our rulers. And we love our neighbors by working in our given vocations to better the town in which we live, that it may flourish.
The term "Christian Nationalism" or any related term is not ONCE mentioned in Scripture, so this is a silly debate.
We are called to live and preach the Gospel and to be at peace with those around us. As much as it depends on us of course. We aren't called to create a "Christian" nation. If it happens, it is simply God's will and due to mass repentance.
Spot on
GOD bless you, AD. I thank GOD for your boldness.
Call us racist? Never saw that one coming.
sir you have a drawing of yourself on your wall.
The G3 – James Lindsey relationship is pretty weird. I mean, why would we ever listen to a pagan? It’s okay if he listens to us and is, therefore, inconsistent. The opposite isn’t.
The American church believes in separation of church and state far more than they believe 10 commandments. Meanwhile never realizing their favorite phrase of love God and love people is straight from Jesus' s summary of the 10 C moral laws.
Christian N is the new racism accusation because the R has lost its ability to freeze people and politicians in their tracks.