The Zombies Don't Matter in The Walking Dead | Wiki Weekends



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Additional sources –

The Walking Dead Cast Talks About How Andrew Lincoln Says “Carl”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwmyGR_S2kU

George A Romero interviewed on BBC2 about Dawn of the Dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjOjY6zRliI

Sam Witwer on Frank Darabont & ‘The Walking Dead’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCyjdBac6p4

‘Walking Dead’ budget cuts caused by new ‘Mad Men’ deal?
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a333585/walking-dead-budget-cuts-caused-by-new-mad-men-deal/

George A Romero: “The Walking Dead is a soap opera with occasional zombies”
https://www.bigissue.com/culture/film/george-romero-walking-dead-soap-opera-occasional-zombies/

Why The Walking Dead cast members are paid a pittance
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/why-the-walking-dead-cast-members-are-paid-a-pittance/RN5QG63RA7TGNYBFDZDN2DUISE/

The Secret Behind Romero’s Scary Zombies: ‘I Made Them The Neighbors’
https://www.wbur.org/npr/332644099/the-secret-behind-romeros-scary-zombies-i-made-them-the-neighbors

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30 thoughts on “The Zombies Don't Matter in The Walking Dead | Wiki Weekends”

  1. I stopped watching after Sasha died. There were a few characters who were interesting, but I want the zombies to actually matter. If I want to see living human monsters, I'd watch the news, or any of a hundred other shows.

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  2. I'm one of the few people I know of (other than my wife) that committed to the sunk cost that was TWD. Towards the end, it was like we had lost our ability to judge whether it was a good piece of media, or whether it was just a good episode amongst the slop. The worst part of the show was the fart sniffing writing style in the later seasons, where you had convoluted time jumps with no explanation as to where in the timeline you are. You could feel through the screen how clever the writers thought they were doing everything non-linear in a linear narrative, forgetting that the rest of the show was just eight minute scenes of exposition dumps between two characters as they walk somewhere. Oh, and near constant "fake outs" of a character almost getting bitten by a zombie, to the point that my wife and I would say "oh, they're surviving then" every time they initiated the scene.

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  3. Hyundai armour was frustrating to deal with as a viewer as well. They had a deal with TWD to supply them cars, but stipulated that the cars couldn't be damaged and nobody could die in them. So every time you see a character get into a pristine Hyundai that starts first every time, you immediately switch off because you know all the stakes are gone for the rest of the scene.

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  4. Correction Karl there aren’t infinite resources, because while there are less people consuming the resources there are also less people producing those resources. Who is refining oil to gasoline? Who is harvesting and planting crops to harvest? There is now infinite potential resources but not actual, and since 80% of people don’t know how to grow crops or animal husbandry and the walkers were shown to eat horses, cows and other livestock that is mostly out the window

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  5. I lost my place around season 10 I think, after Negan saves Ricks daughter from a blizzard…

    Watched dead city, dixon and Rick n michones show. Those shows are better than TWD

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  6. 20:51 I don't know shit about that game, but if you were looking for a clip to make him look like a bad guy you picked the wrong one.
    Apocalypse or not that's a solid line in the sand to draw on if you're going to help someone

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  7. I didn't mind the farm, to me the tension of when and how this is going to go to shit was interesting. I fell out when people were posting videos of the runner getting his head bashed in, I was actually catching up with the show at the time, me and my family were watching like an episode a night and had just gotten out of the prison arc, and I just couldn't keep going maybe it would feel justified if I got there, but I just didn't care about Rick at that point, and it felt like he was the only character who was still going to be there.

    I get so sick of the "intelligence is knowing Frankenstein isn't the monster, wisdom is knowing that he is" bullshit, because it's coming from book people, and as someone who read the book, they are so full of crap.

    For starters, across the board, the monster, or daemon as he was most often called in the book, 100% can be called Frankenstein. No he was never given a name, but that's the fun thing about surnames you get them by default, and as a child brought into this world by Victor Frankenstein he has every right to be considered his son and therefore a Frankenstein. Even if you want to bitch about "but the book never said it" he was still a Frankenstein creation, done via the Frankenstein method of creating life, so he is still a Frankenstein in the sense of how starry night is a Van Gogh.

    But then we get into the nitty gritty of how innocent the poor monster was, and this is where I get annoyed. Because they're like "the reason people don't get it is because in the movies he was a monster but in the books…", and no, in the movies he was as innocent as a child, his most violent crimes were fighting back against a man who abused him, and not understanding the girl he was playing with wouldn't float like the flowers when he threw her in the lake. even in the second movie where he's his most self aware in the franchise he only does bad things because an adult is manipulating him into thinking if he does these things he'll be able to finally have a friend, and when he realized how meaningless all of it had been he sacrifices himself to put an end to it all.

    But in the books he's a right bastard! He spends months to a year learning by observing this family, he understands morals and the concepts of doing nice things for others, yes these people "betray" him when they walk in to see a huge hulking brute violently shaking their poor blind father, but in all fairness his plot never really gave them a chance to see it as anything but him assaulting the man. Regardless the point of even mentioning this is, while still young, the daemon grew in understanding at a very accelerated rate, and is shown to understand the difference between right and wrong, which is why we can't excuse him intentionally murdering a fucking child to get back at his creator, framing an innocent woman, threatening to kill Victor's fiance, and later killing his best friend, fiance and I think father when he doesn't get his way, as "a beast acting on instinct".

    And not to mention these idiots saying Victor abandons the creation, when the book very clearly states that he had believed the experiment had failed, summing up the horrifying experience of waking to the monster over him, as a mix of his oncoming fever and over taxing of his body with stimulants. Hell, even while not believing he had created anything he was still looking for it, when his friends forced him to rest he sent out requests to see if there had been any strange sightings recently and couldn't find any evidence that any of it had actually happened until his creation MURDERED A CHILD IN COLD BLOOD. Even movie Victor is reluctant to outright abandon his creation,rightly pointing out how cruel his assistant had been to the poor thing, but he was convinced by the other people in the room that he cannot control it and the only rational thing to do was to let his former professor humanely euthanize the creature, justifying it with suspect brain science, at a time when Victor was too sick to do anything.

    I'm not saying Victor isn't a bad person, he's vain, vengeful, and allows his raw ambitions to drive him to do dangerous things while rarely ever considering the consequences, and the one time he does may have very well been a mistake. But what I am saying is the entirety of that saying seems to have been made up by so pseudo intellectual ls who skimmed the books, slept through the movies, and inserted personal opinion over Merry Shelly's potential influences over the plain written text when making it up.

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  8. One of the craziest moments that sticks out to me is when the whisperers first appear. That was genuinely shocking, and the effects of that group are seen through the rest of the series after. Honestly, they are probably my favorite group of antagonists in the show just because their methods are so interesting, the group itself isn't super interesting though.

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  9. i stopped gaf probably midway through the season after rick leaves. maybe a little further, but i dont remember much happening after rick spoilers negan's spoiler and trips out looking at stained glass talking about his mercy and his wrath or something.

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  10. I stopped watching when they killed off Carl. They had this interesting development between Carl and Neegan with zero payoff and it just hung in the air ever since. Like they obviously have to work around that all the time and it ruins the immersion. I watched several episodes after but I was bored every time. Until I just like sorta forgot to watch it anymore.

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  11. Well the last of us kinda is an almost one to one adaptation outside of some world building and episode 3. If you played that game almost nothing was a surprise, again except episode 3 and some world building that wasn't originally present in the source material

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  12. TWD dragging content from week to week worked well in the years of 'water cooler" viewing when and where people would discuss and theorize at work and such and live for the week to week resolutions. But the gimmick wore thin, the gimmicks were exposed and often disliked (like the fake out death), and the water cooler type speculation became less and less, especially when society had to stay home to work.

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