The story behind Van Halen’s song Jamie’s Cryin’ and how rapper Tone Loc made millions off the song and got a #2 hit.
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Whose side do you take? Van Halen or Tone Loc? Btw FLOP refers to the song not charting.
Not a flop😂😂😂 good song🎉🎉
"If we didn't revive and, bring back alive
Old beats that we appreciated, you wouldn't survive
You'd be another memory to us
Ashes to ashes and dust to dust." *Big Daddy Kane – Young Gifted and Black
A flop because you decided that Jamie’s crying was a flop.
You influencers are not very smart ..
Dude that song was a flop
But what if that was my safety track of the double featurette just recorded in my room, on my bed? Rock wasn't giving back the healthy feels at the time. I've got so many colds having to use the public phone. I don't know…
Very well done sir, you have a new sub !
That whole era was full of thieves that pretended to be artists but were just wannabe stars.
They 'sampled / stole' because they dont love music and arent creators.
They love fame
The white guys were ripping off the black artists and now the black artists are ripping off the white artists. The irony.😂
The story makes no sense. If they paid them upfront and got permission, then how was there a settlement later?
Well you can always be a bit richer
Never liked it, but, it was popular & often in the live set
I would've never known LOC's song was a sample.
Tone Loc/Jamie's Cryin'? Never made the connection! LOL.
Stop calling it sampling, it's outright theft.
i can hear it now but didn't before seeing this
I get why they’d be upset over it, but I think they were okay without getting every last penny they could.
The only things Gene Simmons is good at are cosplay and marketing.
Huh?
James cryin' was an instantly recognizable riff.
elementary bands dont count!LOL should never be part of a bands biography
I truly appreciate Grovelly voice. In lieu of gravelly.
How is a song that was played on the radio a flop?
If it settled out of court that means there was more to it than the initial $5000 licensing fee. Having said that Tone Loc never pretended that he wrote it himself, that's the key: he never tried to deceive anyone about that.
Much as I hate to mention it maybe it's time to look into the similarity between "Hot for Teacher" and "La Grange" . . . . . .
Its case by case for me, I like wild thing, glad it exists and think this was good creative use of a few snippets "chopped up" to make something new whereas something like "Ill remember you" where they are basically just rapping over one of the most famous musical hooks of all time as a backing track is an abomination
Jamie's Cryin' got a lot of airplay here on DC101
Wrong word 😕. Jamie's Crying 😢 =/= flop. The song 🎵 was underplayed.
Tone Loc is in the animated movie
FernGully: The Last Rainforest is one of my favorite animated films.)
He also voiced characters in the animated television series King of the Hill, C Bear, and Jamal.
Nicely done. Enjoyed this. I saw these guys in Jacksonville Florida open for Black Sabbath. This literally was before many knew who they were. Went with two Sabbath fans…they didn't even mention Sabbath on the way home. Van Halen lit the world on fire. I remember it and they became THE party band…especially in surf culture and keg partys. They were IT…for a while. Exciting times.
Shannon Tweed looks so disgusted at Gene Simmons at 1:52 I would bet though that she's also disgusted with herself for marrying a guy who was a known sex addict, so she must have known she'd never be able to stop his infidelity, but I guess she just couldn't resist the money.
this one is a real stretch
Jamie's Cryin' was not a flop! Van Halen's debut album sold more than 10 million copies in the US alone.
The problem with Van Halen is that they do not have that many good songs. There's Jump. And then there's not much. There are catchy riffs here and there but in terms of songwriting, their albums are filled with fillers. The only other memorable songs is a cover (Why can't this be love). When you strip Eddie's guitar exhibitionism, what remains is publicity and stage presence of DL Roth, who was a terrible singer. So why is this band so popular? Same reason as Kiss or Led Zeppelin. Media and publicity, but not by music.
“Flop”? I don’t know a single VH fan that thought this song was a flop. This is a great song, like most of their music.
Tone Loc didnt sample the music. His label/producers sampled it and they told Tone Loc what the concept was. He wrote a version that was too dirty so the label had Young MC write the used version. The label told Tone Loc that "they" wrote it.
van halen should just be happy that tone-loc could salvage their awfull suck ass song
What a stupid headline. Jamie’s Cryin’ was one of the best tracks on the debut album. Hardly a “flop”. These A.I. videos suck.
Interesting video! I never realized how many songs TL sampled. Crazy.
I hate rap… The only music they do use in their songs are made by other people. It takes no talent to make rap songs
I never associated those songs as being the same.
This just another youtuber that is just making up a stupid click bait story. I'm so tired of seeing these youtubers using Van Halen's name for made up stories for click bait videos.
Van Halen is an American thing that most people see as a joke band – and they are, their music is boring
If rap music didn't have sampling, they would have nothing.
Video so long just get to the point
As much as I love VH, i had the first album on vinyl in '79, I'm pretty sure Tone could have come up with something other than an Eddie lick to make that single hit, but HE was brilliant to use it regardless. Really, the moral of the story is don't be a sucker signing contracts to get big advances from bigger record companies who will sell your S out for a buck.I think MOST of the drama since then has been from the brothers themselves. The other 3 involved busted their buns for them more or less only to get dissed on just for going solo, or worse outright axed by bros.
Considering that they’re generally considered to be an ‘80s band, VH managed to put out two of the best rock albums of the ‘70s when they were just getting their feet wet.
Also, never sleep on DLR as a lyricist; dude always had the chops even if Sammy was always the better singer.
Anything can be a coincidence!
Jamies Cryin was one of my favorite tracks on that great album. Definitely not a flop.
Still hear Jamie's Cryin daily on the radio.
Everybody's crapping on the vid title for the term "flopped". May be correct in a narrow sense, but everyone that likes rock loved that song back in the day. And it got a lot of airplay where I lived.