Today I take you through the tragic scene found in the pink room from The Walking Dead Season 4 episode 11 “Claimed”.
If you have a different theory on what could have happened here feel free to leave it in the comments down below and drop a like on this video to see more content like this!
—Chapters—
0:00 – Intro
1:06 – The Story/ Evidence
7:06 – Piecing Together the Story
11:01 – Alternate Theories & Final Thoughts
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My question is, do you think the mother was wrong?
I don’t really have any theories on this episode in particular, but I do think the girl on the chair is the same girl in the painting and I do not think it was a self-inflicted gunshot wound
Kinda reminds me of that sense in the comic where Morgan finds the kids with the drill holes in there head
So if you look at the position of the body by the window, the exit GSW points to the force multiplier put into the mouth. there is a possibility the family, separated by the outbreak, would believe the worst would occur. The mom {body by the window in this scenario} being a petite thing gathered the kids to the girls bedroom to keep them hunkered down for safety. After the situation continued to decline, with folks getting more violent, and infected roaming the streets of suburbia that once made the neighborhood a great place to raise the kids, stress and fear took over. {This is mostly theory and speculation} A smaller framed woman, who up until this point in her life has never been a combatant, likely a housewife or civilian workforce, she would never have had to see the violence or had to know what it was like to have to end someone's life. Faced with the hard reality that their one time friends and neighbors are now attacking them with no way to defend themselves, aside from {again a theory} her husbands force multiplier. With no word from him, potentially thinking that he was already gone, she would most likely have reached a point where the conditioned "doom cycling" would put people through. {without a lot of detail, we do not know these folks from before the event. Mental health is always important, and without word from folks that worked in the writing department, we just have no idea.} I highly suspect that a manic episode fueled by fear and the lack of guidance by the local and national government and law enforcement as well as the eventual execution of "Operation COBALT" drove the mother to make sure she was with her family at least one last time. Ending the kids, likely in their sleep, then ending her own life. all in the same room, so they could be easily found and buried together. {This is also my own guess to further aid my suggested scenario} I believe that either the husband, or another family member or friend that cared for the family came to the house. walking through and trying to find the family, until they reached the youngest daughters bedroom. Finding the remains after however long it had been, took the force multiplier, maybe a hand full of supplies, as well as a few personal items, and then left, propping the painting on the door after wrapping it. leaving the home empty until Carl and Michonne go out on a scavenging run.
I think a good environmental scene to look into would be the subway where Daryl follows dog and finds and the paintings and letters
I think the children were drugged to make them fall asleep before the mother (or whoever) killed them. One fell asleep reading a comic book, another is holding a teddy bear. I think one fell asleep in the chair. They all clearly died asleep and I don't think anyone is quick enough to kill five sleeping people without some waking up and trying to escape.
what i don't get, everything is too….neat…..too tidy…..like i just don't think that 5 children would just literally lay down and allow their parent/parents to execute them. unless the parents had a silenced weapon and all 5 were sleeping at the same time. Its also not outside the possibility they were drugged with sleeping pills first.
I believe it was the girl in the chair, although she didn't die at the same time as the others. As the days passed and the parent(s) didn't come home the oldest one made the tough choice to take the others out so as to not suffer the terrible fate they might have witnessed through their windows as the dead devoured the living. So she shot all four of her siblings as they slept, one of them having fallen asleep reading the same comic for the umpteenth time. Later as she remained alone she began to hate herself for what she did, even if she thought it was right and necessary at the time. Her mother had panted her portrait some time and it probably had been just finished since the frame appears to be clean and not so different in age to the girl in the chair. So she would defile the painting and then frame and wrap it. Leaving it to lean against the door as she shut it behind her for the last time. Then she went into the pink room and joined her brothers and sisters in the sweet embrace of death.
Sorry guys but anything dinia guerra for me is now unwatchable .
After what she and gimple did to us in TWOL , Is unacceptable to give her the time of day .
Also @tyswell , when u going to give us a genuine reveiwq of TWOL
Minus the very obv brown nosing from the last review .
Whoever did it had to still be alive to close the door and place the painting in front of it.
Bro how she look like the person in the painting. Had me rolling. Dressed yeah, looks hell no. But due to how the kids are positioned, I doubt they were awake when this occurred. Overdose of some type of painless medication? Then shot them to stop reanimate.
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THE DAD DID COME HOME! After the tragedy! The mother is the one in the chair! She bodied her children, then herself. The husband came home and wrote no no no on the painting and did the grotesque lines on the image in rage 🤷🏾♂️
Any chance you can make a video of the Grady memorial hospital in season 5. I enjoyed the doctor's backstory on the military downfall in Atlanta.
I think they were all kidnapped victims,A man obessed with a lyoung girl he seen as a "Grown woman" possibly resembled a ex wife who left him or died before the apocalapse and "Married" her,He kidnapped other children and brain washed them to believe they're a "Family" and when the outbreak happened he knew he had to leave to a safezone but he couldn't bring missing people with him or he'd be shot on sight,so he put alot if sleeping pills and sent the kids to bed,The kid fell asleep before he had the chance to read his comic like kids do trying to sneak staying up but the pills kicked in,the "mother" watched the children sleep feeling drowsy fell asleepin the chair.The man came in and shot them all then realizing what he did he destroyed the artwork he made of the young girl who was his surrogate exwife and put it against against the door as a weird confession then left them to rot.
the mom killed the kids, and the father killed the mother because of it, then started painting. idk seems obvious to me
The painting is the major clue they gave.
The chair woman was too tall to be a child, sitting with her head at michonnes breast height. Then there's the painting and her lack of "visible" wounds. The chair woman was the mother, who was shot in the eye (the X's showing that) due to something about her talking (due to the X over her mouth) judging from the state of the painting. The way the graffiti on the painting was also a clue, the stroke difference (artists don't destroy their brushes by pressing hard and it's a hard habit to break) showing that was a different artist.
The kids had the wounds in the foreheasds.
Most likely the father had the breakdown, shot the wife and kids, put the "mae mae" sign up, ruined the painting and feeling guilt or just being fastidious (like the house was kept) "put the painting away" with the rest of their family before leaving and likely choosing to be zombie chow. Which would explain why it was unlocked, the painting, the wounds, the positions, the house condition and the sign.
It’s a Jack-n-Jill room
I definitely think it’s suppose to be mom in the chair and kids on the bed not sure how you could take that any other way. A father could’ve been gone for awhile and came back to this ( maybe mom thought he died ) and he was the one who did the painting and put it on the door, mine destroyed from seeing this and house perfect from trying to pretend everything’s fine. I like a lot of these theories ect but the only one that gets me is not thinking the women in the chair is mom, she definitely is suppose to be mom with a self inflicted gunshot, her arms are down meaning a gun would be on the floor which they never show the floor
I can believe the mother assumed the father was dead, killed her children then herself. The blood splatter on the wall comes from her being close to the wall when she shot herself. I believe she killed her children and placed them and their personal items on them. The boy had a comic book, and two of the girls had teddy bears. Father finally makes it home and he's the one that closed the door and placed the picture there. Or maybe the father came home found what his wife had done, and placed them all in one room before leaving.
HAA… "CLAIMED"
I think that the one sitting on the chair was the mother/person portrayed in the painting. The absence of weapon and the fact that the painting is wrapped and placed against the door makes me think that the shooter left the scene after opening fire against the people in the room. Now I believe there are two possibilities:
The first one is that the shooter is the father/husband. It is possible that the mother killed her own children (in their sleep presumably) and was waiting for them to come back to life (either to kill them again, ''liberating'' them by just letting them walk to the open or even because the lack of knowledge about coming back without being bitten), and while she was waiting, the father entered the room (possibly after returning from scavengin resources) and after watching the scene, killed the mother in revenge and shooting the kids so they wouldn't come back. Afterwards, he saw the painting of her and in the middle of a breakdown wrote on it before leaving the house. It could be also as someone said that the father killed all of them and then didn't have the guts to shoot himself.
The second one is that the mother killed the kids and shot herself afterwards, which would explain why her head is tilted in that way. If you pay attention to the start of the video, Ty says that the house was unlocked. This could mean that the protagonists are not the first people that had come to the house. If someone has been into the house before looking for goods, it is very possible that this person has entered the pink room, and after takin the mother's gun for him/herself and painted over the mother's painting because of the horror of the sitation, specially if we imagine that this could have happened at the first years of the apocalypse, where people were not so used to watch scenes like that.
I strongly believe that the kids were asleep or already dead before being shot since the have their belongings (comics, teddys, etc) with them as if the mother wanted them to be holding them on purpose. Also because it looks like if they weren't shot point blank (since they all have one shot to the head) but the mother has her blood splattered in the wall behind her. With the kids looks like the person who did it aimed very well one by one to not leave a bloody mess in the room, which would be impossible to do so if they are alive and awake.
One thing I oddly love about this series is how you title them to sound like book or tv show titles. Really draws me in.
But I do also love environmental storytelling, especially in apocalypse scenarios. Everything from a crashed car down to a hastily written warning has a story and twd is full of them! Can't wait for more!
I subbed for you for this kind of stuff. You're looking at the twilight of the Frank Darabont era….
The show went shit city as this season continued.
What happened?
They all were killed by one or both of the Parents, who are out there now as either Part of, or became Prey of the Terminus cult.
That's not the mother in the chair, that's one of the older kids/ baby sitter.
Remember- someone closed the door, someone trashed that picture, someone put the "do not disturb" sign on the door…
Just wanted to say i really enjoy these environmental story videos
Keep it up with those, extremely interesting although tragic at the same time…
I think the body on the chair is the Mother.. Dad was out scavenging, while Mom had a mental breakdown or something like that and killed the children, when dad arrived he now had a breakdown and wanting to not do harm to the body of his loved ones let his anger out on the painting of the mother.. Then he wrapped it, sealed the room and left😢
The woman in the chair definitely had a self inflicted shot and was an adult woman.
People are heartless!
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Looks like there’s a bite wound on the right forearm on the body in the chair. I think it’s the mom/wife, who gave the kids a sleeping agent and then ended them before she turned.
Hey man your one of my favorite twd creators just the way you tell the story of twd is good 👍 I hope you keep doing great on YouTube and maybe one day your gonna 100k. Thanks for making amazing content.
If you like TWD, you should check out We're Alive a story of survival.
I have little theory here.
This is a mother of 4. 2 boys and 2 girls. It’s not really relevant to the theory, just everyone is saying all girls and completely glossing over that there was a blue room as well and only 2 body’s have attire like little girls clothes.
I think the day started normal and the husband leaving off for work and all when the apocalypse hit, the husband however was NOT caught up in the insanity but couldn’t get home and after a period he gave up and accepted their death. What had happened though was after the kids were let out of school early (from what Fear the Walking Dead shown) the Mother hunkered down with her children at the home waiting for her husband and the father of her children. Days turned into weeks, weeks turned into months and the mother has lost hope of ever seeing her husband again and seeing dead walking she used paint thinner to put her and her kids into a eternal slumber (aka she poisoned everyone’s drinks) and after the kids fell asleep she lost the will to poison herself and had a breakdown.
This is when the kids reanimated. She had to kill them again by shooting them in the head and she then laid their bodies on the bed and, now knowing that if she drinks the poison as well she’ll just get back up she puts the gun in her mouth and blows her head off.
What I think happened next is not long after the husband found the home, saw it was in near pristine condition and then found the bodies of his wife and children. He just missed them. If he was quicker he could have gotten there a few days sooner and everyone might still be alive because the bodies still look freshly dead to him. In order to process this grief he took it out on one of his wife’s self portraits, defiling it and writing No on it before taking the gun that killed his family, symbolically burying his family by wrapping up the portrait and leaving his life behind him again.
My theory starts on the day that the schools let out early and the husband finding the bodies of his wife and children would be maybe a few months before Rick woke up from his coma to give a timeline. As for how pristine the house was? A few people probably found it but maybe had a “off” feeling about it and further in other groups probably saw the house as a trap for how pristine it was or maybe they smelled the blood when they walked the perimeter. The house was pristine after all, but that doesn’t mean people came in, smelt death and dipped out in fear of walkers being somewhere in the house or they saw the house as a grave and chose to not defile what was, in their mind, a burial site.
I wish we had more of these behind the scenes
Ty, your reactions are always classics but the way you reacted to the painting is legend. 😂😂😂
Here's what I think. Mama went wacky and poisoned her kids and then shot them. She then shot herself. Dad came home saw this, took the gun and wrapped painting that she had painted in her decline and placed it against the door. He then hauled ass to play survivor.
Either way this went down, i think another person/group stayed in this house between the horror and when Michonne was here. Its been indicated alot of these homes have been picked over. I think another person may have stumbled across the home and found the bodies and placed the painting in front of the door, as a warning/memorial.