Today at the Mystery Shack, we begin our journey through the final season of the mainline The Walking Dead series and dive into the surprise cancellation as well as the start of the (somewhat controversial) Commonwealth arc.
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https://www.insider.com/when-will-the-walking-dead-end-final-season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSrnOa3UIXk&pp=ygUfVFdEIFNlYXNvbiAxMSBiZWhpbmQgdGhlIHNlY25lcw%3D%3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wpLWvUs_Lc&pp=ygUfVFdEIFNlYXNvbiAxMSBiZWhpbmQgdGhlIHNlY25lcw%3D%3D
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a42026256/walking-dead-cancelled-season-12-spinoffs/
https://screenrant.com/walking-dead-season-10-finale-release-date-delayed/
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/05/world/coronavirus-australia-toilet-paper-scli-intl/index.html
https://www.nme.com/news/tv/the-walking-deads-maggie-and-negan-spin-off-sets-release-date-3325415
https://undeadwalking.com/2017/09/13/walking-dead-season-8-bottle-episodes/
https://www.tvovermind.com/walking-dead-darabont-lost-episode-2/
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00:00 â Introduction
00:31 â The Cancellation & Release Structure
04:08 â Pacing
05:01 â Promo & Posters
07:23 â The Trailer
09:14 â A Solitary Life
14:36 â Maggie & Negan
19:59 â Alexandria in Ruin
23:06 â The Metro
24:41 â Commonwealth Interrogation
27:26 â Wall of the Lost
28:32 â Closing Thoughts
29:02 â Outro
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GOODMANNIT I WAS DOING THE DISHES AND I MISSED THE NOTIFICATION. AHHHHHHHHG I'M LATE. But anyway, can't wait to see this, it feels like it's been an extra long wait, thank you Koroto, and after this i will rewatch the entire twdcu as i do after every video you post, while playing as rick grimes in fortnite and eating a zombie shaped sandwich
Man weâve come such a long way. Iâve really enjoyed these videos over the last year. I hadnât watched the show until maybe two years ago and I slammed the whole thing in two weeks. Loved it. Never watched season 11 and never cared too.
Iâm not an anime guy so I donât watch a lot of your other stuff except the last of us videos but I canât wait to watch you cover the spin off shows. All of which I havenât seen. I know Iâll watch all of those
It's been quite the ride. Can't wait for more. đ
LETS GOOOO. Was waiting on a new release
First! I am the first! Noone is firster than me! I am the firstest! FEAR ME!
Krotos mystery shack and dinner time this day went from good to great real quick
Would you ever do what if videos on the walking dead. I feel like you could really cook with that
After finally finishing the books, I can say Negan's ending was indeed great and I quite like what Kirkman did in the epilogue. But the main problem I have with the books is that they didn't use 'Slipping Jimmy' as much as I would like. Because I preferred him in the TV show and wanted him to be just a wee bit more evil, but no, he's totally different in the books…. Beyond that, I quite liked the Commonwealth ark as an epilogue before the epilogue. Although, my little nerdy brain would have liked the full-on civil war-esk thing in the TV show. But hey, I'll just be happy having both versions.
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHGG
I think the posters are the way they are for this season possibly because of Covid (I know I know that excuse for a lot of stuff) but this is coming from a photography and digital editing perspective (an area I work in and know a bit about) Iâm guessing the way the posters were made was simply having a actor in front of a green screen pose and move on then the next actor (like how school pictures are done) this means that they only need one photographer on set not a whole team you can then super impose all the actors onto the poster together so it looks like they are together.
Basically doing it like this means you donât need assistance or a lighting team or anyone else on set for the poster photos
And itâs quite clear to see that they did those kind of precautions whilst working in and around the pandemic with episodes having just one or two main actors and minimum interaction (+plus less groups of walkers and the being conveniently spread out) if they are willing to be that careful on the show of course they would do it with all the other behind the scenes stuff like poster shoots and voice overs
Anyway that my guess for why the posters werenât great this season
the intro to this puts a smile on my face every time i have heard it over the year i have been following your channel you are highly under rated keep it up <3
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If the reapers had their own 16 episode season to themselves and the commonwealth got the 24 episode final season, people whoâve liked it more
Woke up to the goat uploading
when will ftwd retrospective be uploaded?
This entire season feels like it could have been like 3 different ones.
New The Ones Who Live trailer dropped today, Iâm so excited
Im just glad you finally uplodaded it cx been waiting for this! Also yea i get Negan with live action and Maggie always hating on Negan getting annoying i still like Negan live action alot more
wow yesterday I asked when will the next one be online and, it here I should ask for the next episode sooner the next time.
I think the name Slipping Jimmy fits Lance so well.
Im always so excited when you post a video even when it's about shows i haven't seen so imagine how excited i am when you post videos about a show I'm in love with
i love the constant cameos of the trash taste lot
What is the music in the background during the maggie and negan section of the video?
Having a show that is almost SOLELY based on shock and surprise moments go through the "amc+" treatment is INSANELY insulting to fans. Imagine if they had it during the negan introduction kill. Forcing every episode after negan to be a buildup or cliffhanger and then dividing the viewerbase on when the episodes premiere whether you pay extra or not is insulting and spit in the face of the people that stuck with the show through Rick/Michonne/Carl BS.
I love hearing " hello and welcome back to the walking dead retrospective "
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Ahhh another video to help me go through my week. Many thanks krotos hope the coffee machine isn't burnt out lmao
soooâŚwalking dead poster ranking video when?!?!?
Canât believe youâre on the final season now Iâve been watching these walking dead videos since you covered season three Ive loved every second of this journey and I hella respect all the work you put in these videos â¤ď¸
I vote we call him Slippin Jimmy in the show.
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I quite like season 11 and I think people give it too much crap
4:02 that's an Australian store chain called woolworths đ
They really fucked up the final season. The structure and pacing and season length was all over the place, 11A was nothing but filler, it was impossible to be all that interested in the Commonwealth arc A because it's the most boring arc in the comics, B we knew the spinoffs were happening and which characters would live, so we were more interested in spinoff set up, and C we were all waiting for Rick Grimes news or something that would set up his spinoff or if he'd appear in the final season, and D if the CRM would play a role in anything. There were so many meta things going on in TWDU that, combined with covid, a small set, and apparently no CGI budget until 11C, made the Commonwealth feel so small and insignificant, compared to in the comics where it was the largest community we'd ever seen and the closest to life before the apocalypse, and there was a real class struggle and it was mainly focused on Rick. There were things in the comic that didn't work on screen, like the goofy stormtrooper outfits, and things that were left out like… well basically everything, so much was changed, that we'd missed out all the best moments of the Commonwealth arc. Nothing was done to it's full potential, and it all just fell flat really. And the Reapers were a complete let down and waste of time, and Leah is the least likeable character ever. The only good things about season 11 are that Lance's character was greatly improved from a comics and was a very conniving Machiavellian villain, Negan as always was entertaining as fuck and had great character development, and that everything finally ended for 90% of the characters that either died, left or lived happily ever after
I doubt you remember this, but ages ago when you released your seaon 7A premiere video, I asked if the show was worth getting into after dropping it years ago, and through your recommendation I got back into this series that I've falllen back in love with. Now that we're on the final season of the retrospective, I'm feeling pretty nostalgic for it all, and grateful for the hard work you've put into such a well thought out, informative and passionate series. Keep up the great work Koroto, you are a brilliant mind
i watched this show from october of last year and finished it in december, i remember the later seasons got so stale i ended up watching these retrospectives inbetween episodes to maintain interest in the show lmao
An animated series has been a dream of mine since I finnished reading the comic book, around the time A certain doom was yet to come in the pandemic.
Completely acurate to the comic story, just because I want to see them having the balls to adapt some of the things than happens there. And because there is so much people that just don't enjoy reading comics and they are missing one big here.
I think a video of your live reaction to âThe Ones Who Liveâ would be amazing! I love your live reactions!
You canât really assert with facts that TWD got canceled because AMC wanted to just pull the plug on it. Of course the constant drop in the ratings impacted that decision but they were following the comic book created by Robert Kirkman anyway which ended with the commonwealthâs story arc as well so in other words there was no point of continuing the main show because they were caught up with the source material
I havenât heard your voice since last year đ
Me and my brother called Lance, Saul Goodman when we first watched s11 glad we weren't the only ones who thought they look alike.
Just getting through the third half of the final season in preparation for your next videos
Season 11 feels like too much of a hodge podge of ideas rolled into one season. At first I saw 24 episodes as the perfect length to tell the Commonwealth arc, as 1 season might feel too rushed and 2 seasons would be too long. There's this awkward gap between the Whisperer war ending and the Commonwealth arc starting in the comics in which Eugene's group are travelling to the Commonwealth, get captured and interviewed, while Alexandria and Hilltop rebuild, Rick grieves for Andrea, and Dwights wide Sherry tries to start a Savior uprising or something, it's all really weird. But Eugene's group already left in 10×14 and met Princess in 10×15 and got captured at the railyard in 10×16, which we had to wait 6 months for. Then the only thing we got was Princess' stupid hallucination episode. Then 11×1 and 11×2 was just them being interrogated, and they didn't even get to the Commonwealth until 11×5!
It took over a YEAR from them leaving to the Commonwealth to actually getting there, even though there were only 10 episodes and they were mostly filler. Then the only other Commonwealth stuff we get is in 11×7, and we never even got to see Pamela Milton until 11×10!
Whereas in season 3 we saw the Governor as soon as they got to Woodbury, the built up to Negan but his introduction was bombastic and breathtaking in the finale, and season 9 waited until 9×9/10 to introduce Alpha, but we only got 3 episodes of Whisperer stuff before that. Whereas we had to wait basically a whole season from when the Commonwealth was introduced to first seeing the leader of the community! Sure we met Lance and Sebastian, but hardly anything.
Then they decided to make Lance the villain and introduced mini villains like that ex army recovering alcoholic guy, the leader of the Alexandria work camp, and Lance's cronies (fake Stephanie đ). Ugh the whole thing was poorly done. Lance worked as a villain but they didn't do enough with him. When the rest of the characters got to the Commonwealth after the Reapers, they jumped ahead a month, so we didn't even get to see their reactions to everything! We needed a Remember type episode where they cautiously enter the community, are on guard, scoping it out, making a plan, deciding how they feel and whether they trust them. Nah they just skipped to them all living normal lives again, it's so jarring. Why waste a 1/3 of a season on the Reapers and then skip over the characters actually getting to and taking in the scale and sophistication of the Commonwealth??
Then they just kept introducing storylines that went nowhere. That soldier that Princess knocked out, he was demoted to a waiter and lost everything, he was part of an uprising to revolt against the oppressive upper class and inequality, they raided his apartment and found propoganda. What happened about that?? I know they explain away they've been rounding up rebels and sending them to labour camps, but they make up this whole mystery that we're led to believe is connected to the CRM and that we'll actually see the oppressed lower class revolt, but it never happens. The only protest that happens is about Sebastian sending poor indebted people into a house surrounded by walkers to retrieve money for him. It's so random. They had all this political intrigue and police brutality storyline in the comics, and the lower classes basically having enough about their poor conditions while the upper class lives in luxury, and the idea of having these old world systems in the apocalypse and how getting back to life before isn't as good as it seems… But then they don't even show poor people suffering, they literally just live in a capitalist society like ours, hardly a dystopia.
And then Lance's plan all along was to take over the communities and spread his empire, for his own personal gain but also for Pamela because he has a weird maternal fetish with her, they clearly have a backstory that's never explained. Everything is just so half baked. And then they make 11C about taking back their homes, in literally one episode they capture Lance and make a deal with Pamela, and everything goes back to normal, and we never even find out about the Oceanside cliffhanger, whether they're all dead, they don't even know about it. Pamela always acted oblivious to what Lance was doing or that there was any rebellion in the Commonwealth, she just lived at the height of luxury looking down on everyone else. But then suddenly not only does she know but she goes above Lance and was lying all along and they still occupy the communities and manage to turn Alexandria into a forced labour camp in like a week???
Then everything is back to normal, but Lance causes chaos for some reason, Sebastian gets bit and dies. He's literally the man who KILLS RICK GRIMES in the comics, but he does next to nothing in the story and dies. WTF?! He was literally just a petulant nuisance and nothing more. And then several characters get captured (as revenge for Eugene "killing" Sebastian??) and Daryl and Carol escape with Lance to find them, he talks about connections with far away communities which MUST be hinting at the Civic Republic but its never confirmed, again just teasing us with Rick content that never comes, and then Carol just fucking shoots him when they find a train! He never killed anyone, he never really did anything, all his plans and motivations were never explained ,, and after making Lance the more compelling villain, they decide to make Pamela the villain! This isn't like with Negan killing Alpha and then getting Beta as like a final boss battle, it doesn't work at all and it's messy and rushed, and the death itself is pointless.
Then there's the whole Eugene trial thing, idek know what he's on trial for coz everyone already knows he unintentionally got Sebastian killed because he was trying to kill Stephanie, Mercer joins the good side but immediately gets arrested, Aaron's group somehow lead an entire horde from Virginia to Ohio which is like 400 miles, they retcon variant walkers just to spice things up and spinoff set up, even tho the variant walkers in Daryl Dixon are completely different, they try to take down Pamela, Negan nearly sacrifices himself and has a complete character development arc, Maggie and him make amends but then they go back to fighting and distrusting eachother in Dead City…. NOTHING MAKES SENSE! And then to top ot off, Judith finally tells Daryl Rick is alive and Michonne left to find him, and he has no emotional reaction whatsoever! The whole season is a complete mess. I don't understand how they had 24 episodes and so much potential and comics to go off, and they still managed to make half the season slow boring filler and the other half a rushed undercooked mess!
It's also all the more frustating that season 11 focused so much on Maggie and Negan because their conflict and reluctantly working together and forced to trust eachother for a larger goal is literally just the same in DC. Dead City just feels like 11A all over again, and season 11 should've focused more on giving the rest of the cast a conclusive character development arc
11×1 had an awesome cliffhanger of Negan leaving Maggie to die, but then it makes the following episodes worse because how tf does she not just kill him for doing that
yeah the budget of the ones who live will have a budget of 13.7 million