The Strange Locomotives Loggers Loved – C.D.Scott “Climax” Locomotives



In today’s video, we take a look at the locomotives built by the Climax locomotive works that started as slap-together engines but became some of the best machines to work on logging railroads

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45 thoughts on “The Strange Locomotives Loggers Loved – C.D.Scott “Climax” Locomotives”

  1. Little-known fact: Because of incredibly-tight curves and turnouts, Shays, Climaxes and Heislers were used on dockyard and congested industrial trackwork on the East and West coasts of the US for many years. Shays weren't so good at this switching work because that right-hand-side-mounted driveshaft and couplings Did Not Like tight right-hand curves at all.

    The reason this part of locomotive history is little known is because most of that switching work was at night, and in dangerous areas where strangers stumbling around with flashbulb cameras were definitely not wanted. And in wartime, sudden and bright flashes around docks, warehouses and shops in the nightly gloom would get very rapid attention from the dockers, local police and FBI.

    But these 'geared' engines – as they were known – were built in many different gauges and exported everywhere. And they're very popular today with modelers of all gauges.

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  2. There’s a point relatively recently (at least two decades) where a Climax outperformed a logging Mike, even though it wasn’t a crew favorite. The Class C’s and presumably the B’s had some stability issues getting up to higher speeds. I can’t tell if it’s the process of shifting of gears that does it, or the more conventional cylinder placement transmitting a hammer blow effect to the frame and drive instead of on the rails, but 8-12 mph is a rough ride. Check out Rock Trains, it should still be up here

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  3. I feel like the shay, heisler and climax were all sidegrades to each other, not necessarily upgrades. Shays could handle grades, climaxes could handle curves, and heislers were fast, so many railroads tried some combination of the three to see which one worked best for them.

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  4. 8:30 Loco 1694, built in 1928 for 2'6" (762mm) gauge. Now owned by Puffing Billy Railway, Belgrave, Victoria, Australia. Westinghouse air brakes have been fitted and is occasionally used on special trains.

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  5. Even thought the inventor's name was Scott, (poor guy) the name doesn't seem to pack the same punch as Climax. Still, the thought of saying Scotts and Shays when talking about logging locomotives does sound nice. And we can't deny that Climaxes have certainly made their mark in the industrial side railroad history. Last week, I laid eyes on a G Scale Climax at my railroad museum. I hope to get an HO model of one sometime in the future.

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  6. Not mentioned: Climaxes were notorious for being very bouncy, sometimes damagingly so. I have heard it said that the Climax Locomotive Work's second business was selling Climax locomotives…and the first was selling parts. There's a reason so few survive.

    (Now go do a video on Heislers, and include the one at Sumpter!)

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  7. I still cant figure out how and where. Anif theres 3rd cylinder, also would it fit under the boiler? Sorry thats just cause i cant imagen a better example, and thanks tot you hav the most modern steam locos goin. Loves me ah friday😅

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  8. Four of the preserved Climax locomotives are in New Zealand. I was lucky enough to see one of them at a museum on the South Island's West Coast back in October, and apparently, another one is under restoration in the North Island.

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  9. It seems sad that scott is left pennyless after going to court for the right to his patent he would of been better to gone to court and got a some money from the climax locomotive company from every locomotive the made and sold

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  10. I remember playing with a toy of an engine based on the C, I typically played without the tender, as the tank made him look like a tank engine (In fairness, that was supposed to be where the burning fuel goes, not the water, so I guess I was right.)

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  11. Indeed there are very few operational Climax locomotives. You can count them easily on one hand. My personal favorite, that I have ridden aboard on a few occasions, Is former Beebe River Railroad, (then East Branch & Lincoln RR) in New Hampshire. It is still doing its job hauling tourists on the White Mountain Central RR just a mile from where it once worked in the woods.

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  12. Fun facts, Corry, Pennsylvania, home of the Climax locomotive works, is only about 35 miles from Erie, PA, where the Heisler logging locomotives were built.
    Erie is still cranking out locomotives at the old GE locomotive works, now owned by Wabtec. "Wab" being corporate shorthand for Westinghouse Air Brake.

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