On March 29, 1942 the conditions of weather, sea and combat on the high seas resulted in a desperate battle, and for the light cruiser HMS Trinidad, a shocking turn of events.
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What’s the British English equivalent of “D’oh!”?
Awesome story!
Thank you.
Didn't a similar thing happen to an American cruiser in the south Pacific in one of those big cruiser vs cruiser battles in 1942?
George Lloyd knew my father.
Father knew George Lloyd.
We just had the History Guy do a birthday video for my wife via Cameo; it was absolutely great, and he took time to personalize it with interesting facts about the date and other funny/interesting information. Highly recommended!
The only thanks the west ever got for this aid were accusations from Stalin that the west could have done more. Some "ally".
Reminds me of the time the USS William D. Porter (a.k.a. the Willie Dee) accidentally shot a live torpedo at the Iowa, which president Roosevelt was on at the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_William_D._Porter_(DD-579)
There might be a question why sailors are required to remove ice from ships. The quick answer is: 1.) This adds weight to the ship which affects its operation and safety. 2.) An over weighted bow can literally crack and/or break off the ship because a ship flexes at sea. Like bending a piece of metal back-and-forth to break it in two. Especially in heavy seas which are often the case in Artic and Antarctic waters. Several ships had this happen in WW2 when delivering supplies to Russia in the Artic areas.
Convoy pq17
There is a picture of Z26 in Jurgen Rohwer' book 'War at Sea 1939-45' taken just as the deck starts to become awash as she leans over to port. The rear turret is pointed astern, the two forward of it are to port and show damage inflicted by Trinidad's guns. Can just make out the rear set of torpedo tubes slewed to about 45deg from centreline. Thick heavy smoke is emitting from holes and rented plates that prove the effectiveness of the damage inflicted and the boilers are blowing off which makes for a very dramatic picture. THG putting life and drama to a picture, really well done.
At least two American submarines were lost due to circular run torpedoes. There may have been more.
Yep
Have you ever heard about the US ship that almost sunk the ship that FDR was on?
Sad but interesting.
0:08: ⚓ Arctic convoys to Soviet Union faced extreme conditions and battles during WWII, delivering vital supplies.
4:20: ⚓ Musician in Royal Navy becomes leading violinist and composer during World War II.
6:53: ⚓ Allied Convoy faces air attacks and near misses, leading to damage and sinking of vessels.
9:46: ⚓ Torpedo malfunction causes HMS Trinidad to be hit amidships by its own torpedo.
12:19: ⚓ The disastrous events leading to the sinking of a ship during a convoy rescue mission.
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I note the news article on the sinking states eight six-inch guns when she in fact had twelve.
Get Swedish torpedoes that work in cold waters
USS Tang: hold my beer 🙁
Horrible!
If you're going to do this topic, you absolutely have to talk about L. Ron Hubbard's hilariously bad captaining during WW2.
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Thanks, Lance, great post(as always!)!
Friendly fire happens more often than you’d think
Mad place to keep the fuel tanks (or Transmission room for that matter).
Thank you.
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Backing the USSR communists was a HUGE mistake we're still paying for today. So what if Germany conquered Russia. It would have been a net positive.
The Murmansk run made the term "the cruel sea," seem inadequate.
I was already familiar with this story, as a fan of the music of George Lloyd. If you are at all interested in great symphonic music, you should give him a listen if you have not already. His story is a true example of the capricious, arbitrary, and brutal nature of the Gods of War, and also the possibility of redemption. I am glad he survived, but also greatly saddened by the loss of so many others. Who knows what some of them might have been able to accomplish had they not died.
Love the "THC" sign, dude! Toke 'em if ya got 'em!
Spring torpedo technology and utility is fascinating and worth a look.
and… if you ask Russians today they will deny that they ever got any help from perfidious west,
not to mention the fact that they never paid for this lend-lease…
A circular run. A circular run of a torpedo is what did in the U.S. submarine USS Tang.
The Arctic convoys were a major mistake.
Great video, as usual. Thank you.
"Shell shock" was the World War I term for PTSD. The equivalent term from World War II was "Combat fatigue" which was used until "Post Traumatic Stress Disorder" was officially classified as a diagnosis.
I'm sure the Soviets were sooo grateful!
In relation to the treacherous crossings, particularly of those to the USSR, by Allied merchant convoys, I'd like to ask if "The History Guy" has ever seen or even heard of the 1943 film, "Action in the North Atlantic"? I won't go into too much detail of the film other than it stars Humphrey Bogart as an officer in the U.S. Merchant Marines, and is a film dedicated to showcasing the lives, duties and procedures of the U.S. Merchant Marines, as well as Allied convoy operations during WWII. The more significant reason for mentioning the film is how it was received by the actual U.S. Merchant Marines' personnel: their praise of the film's accurate depiction of the Merchant Marines would extent to not only gifting Warner Brothers co-founder, Jack Warner, with a Merchant Marine Victory Flag, but also "Action in the North Atlantic" being included as a training film in the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy, as well as being shown as an inspirational motivation film to employees of Henry J. Kaiser's ship building company, (one of the companies contracted to build Liberty Ships, as I'm sure you are aware.)
I've watched the film many times, (I even own a copy on DVD,) and I do believe it is a film that, despite its significant acknowledgement among the U.S. Merchant Marines at the time of its release, (the war still ongoing,) is mostly unknown and underappreciated by the general public. However, it is a film, that I also believe, deserves to be remembered. 😉
I think the allies should have ignored the Soviet Union, and let Germany expend more effort in the East.
None of the convoys in any theatre had an easy time, be it North Atlantic or the Med, but the Arctic convoys had to fight the worst possible weather conditions in addition to the enemy. And yet, in the best traditions of both the Royal Navy and the Merchant, they damned wll did it. Remarkable heroism from so many
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She wasn’t a “Fiji” Class light cruiser. She was a Crown Colony Class light cruiser. HMS Fiji just happened to be a Crown Colony class cruiser.
Greetings! I am an Icelander, intrested in Naval History,and especially the Arctic Convoys. Thank you! Billi.
I think that the History Guy's 2nd World War naval stories are probably the best videos on his channel. This one was very informative, but I was a bit disappointed there were no pirates involved!
I live in Trinidad and Tobago😏😒
That's an incredible amount of damage for one torpedo. If it did that to a cruiser, I gotta imagine it would have split that destroyer in half if it had hit its intended target.
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those early fish were lousy