Dr Jordan B Peterson and Masih Alinejad discuss the current situation in Iran, the growing unrest as revolution beckons, and the need for support from the world stage. Alinejad recounts her personal experiences growing up in Iran, being exiled, and multiple kidnapping attempts orchestrated by the current regime.
Masih Alinejad is an Iranian-American journalist, author, and women’s rights activist. Alinejad is an outspoken critic of the Iranian government’s human rights abuses and its treatment of women and political opponents. She is the founder of the My Stealthy Freedom campaign against compulsory hijab. Since its launch in 2014 has become the largest civil disobedience campaign for women’s rights in the history of the Islamic Republic. Alinejad currently lives in exile in New York City under FBI protection since a coordinated kidnapping attempt by the Islamic Republic of Iran’s Intelligence Ministry was foiled in 2021.
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“The Next Revolution Will be Led by Women” Speech by Masih Alinejad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX1-kT1jQZk
“My Stealthy Freedom” campaign against compulsory hijab in Iran by Masih Alinejad: https://www.mystealthyfreedom.org/#
“The West is finally waking up to the real problem in Iran” oped by Masih Alinejad: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/27/masih-alinejad-iran-human-rights-macron-west/
“The Beginning of the End of the Islamic Republic, Iranians Have Had Enough of Theocracy,” Article by Masih Alinejad: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/iran/beginning-end-islamic-republic-iranians-theocracy?utm_medium=promo_email&utm_source=lo_flows&utm_campaign=registered_user_welcome&utm_term=email_1&utm_content=20221224
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(1:18) Intro
(3:13) Brave or foolhardy?
(6:30) Women in Iran, the loss of social freedom
(9:55) 1979, all who were affected
(12:00) Ebrahim Raisi, the butcher of Iran
(15:15) Religious dictatorship
(18:00) Compulsory Hijab is a symbol of oppression
(19:35) Men and women, the optimal relationship
(22:47) Crime of womanhood, insult to manhood
(25:47) Pamphlets, Parliament, and exile
(29:22) Kidnapping plot, fear and bravery
(34:00) Facing the West, Islamophobia
(39:00) The women’s march, a need to go further
(44:00) Balancing relations with Islam and Islamic countries
(49:00) The need for universal values
(51:36) Execution, protest at a funeral
(54:24) The desert, chaos, collapse
(55:30) Why Iran can survive revolution
(59:55) Lies of the current regime, broken mentality
(1:02:00) Mahsa Amini, the dress code of Sharia Law
(1:05:50) Masih’s family was weaponized against her
(1:10:15) Corruption of the Mullahs
(1:12:55) Assassination plot, motive, and spin
(1:14:40) Salman Rushdie, western apologists
(1:17:55) Message to Trudeau from Iran
(1:22:35) The scale of protest in Iran
(1:28:00) New age in Iran, the call for heroes
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the world (usa, europe, russia) tried to overturn Islamic republic by helping saddam hussain with military and checmical weapons that failed. They are now in revolution business by putting sanctions to instigate violence to already frustrated Iranian public
Masih talks lots of bullshit. I dont defend the iranian gvt at all but people within iran are not yet united against the regime and you want to mobilize the most aggressive countrys like the us and allies to overthrow them which they obviously cant …bern trying this for 40 years. The only way to modernize iran is through forces within. If people would be really soo fuking upset then start laying down works and block main streets like in the shahs era and it will not even take 2-4 weeks and they gonna fall.. so atm there is no majority to protesr thats the problem
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The World Cup games have barely started but already, we have seen one of the most memorable pictures: Iran’s soccer team staying rebelliously silent while their national anthem is playing before the beginning of their match against England. There have been other protests in Iran against the regime of the Ayatollahs, but this one feels different. They are no longer only against the government’s treatment of women, but have become a demand to transform the regime altogether and open it up to the rest of the world. Despite killing more than 400 peaceful protesters, the demonstrations are continuing in full force.
The Iranian government is hostile not only toward Israel and toward its own people; it is hostile toward the entire world. Its stated goal is to impose Shiite Islamic law on the entire world, and it will not rest until it achieves it, however long it takes.
Unfortunately for them, the Iranian people do not share the goals or dogmas of the regime; they want to live as people live in the free world, where people can do what they want, live how they want, and say what they want within acceptable limits. In short, the Iranian people want to be free and feel free.
I have said before that Iran is a very ancient and very intelligent nation. I believe that if the will of the people triumphs, Iran and Israel will not be enemies and will resume the warm relationship that the two countries had cultivated before the Ayatollahs overthrew the Shah and set off a dark chapter in the country’s history.
Oppression stymies development. Only free people can grow and change and develop, and change is intrinsic to human nature. If not this time, then perhaps next time, but in the end, the Iranian people will free themselves from the regime that wishes to oppress them and bind all of humanity to its yoke.
THis man is a wise one very well thought Mr Jordan Peterson. I will vote for him as our next PM of Canada. I support Dr.Peterson. he has a logical mind .
what she said could be true
How about talking about the protests against the vaccines and Israel too
As an Iranian American woman and someone who personally has had family in Iran killed by the evil government there, I thank you,Dr. Peterson, for giving Mahsi this platform.
thanks for letting people know what's happening
She clearly a Feminist and is Exaggerating.. we have good and bad everywhere. Stop running to Western countries for your problems or else you will end up like Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen , Kashmir etc.. watch out!
I am really happy this is interview came into existence. For decades, nobody talked or even knew what was happening in Iran. I am happy this is getting the deserved exposure it needs. Ironic that this is happening on social media instead of all those established news media channels.
Such a pitty that a beautiful nation rich with a lot of history and a beautiful culture be ruled by those bloody billionaire terrorist mullas. Freedom is coming soon, sadly though at such a big cost, a lot of beautiful souls.
In the old Islamic writing/laws,,,men were given power over women,totally,,,,the only power the men really have,,it’s to keep the men in control….
Free thinkers protect freedom. Go Masih, sound the trumpet for your people!
It’s up to the people in Iran to sort out their own issues. The West need to look after their own society first. When the west intervene abroad they come out looking like .the bad guys. Women in the West had to protest and get organised together with their men to get freedoms like voting rights and property rights. You people can do that too without the West.
My heartfelt gratitude for this long overdue interview.
To complete Masieh ‘ comment on Islamic phobia in western countries , there has been widespread belief among Muslims that what Islamic regime does is causing Islamic phobia not only in western countries but also in Muslim nations. Brutality of this regime with name of Islam has done the biggest damage ever to those who believe in Islam.
Most civilized(I am beginning to doubt the meaning of this) groups don't make decisions based on morality. It is mostly on what benefits the group now or soon. So I get her being surprised when the west contradict themselves. I recovered from this type of shock episode when I discovered this.
Crimes Against Humanity are clearly ignored in our world and not recognized by the International Criminal Court in Hague. Who is running that show?!!!
Jordan & lot of people who watch this have missed the point . The 1979 revolution was not Islamic & it main supporters were US, UK & France. They took Khomeini from Iraq to Paris and made him the revolutionary leader . Shah was getting far too strong and when he helped Egypt to retake Sinai & defeat Israel that was the end of the Shah. Sadat paid with his life for harboring the great Shah . Israel would not have done what it has if shah was still in power . Mullahs we’re brought by US and they are beneficial to US. Look what happened since the departure of Shah! Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya and many other Muslim countries are soaked in blood . The wealth of these countries are spend buying weapons from US while the rich & intellectuals are immigrated to great Satan 😡😡😡🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
wow…the hair from all my body just rose… I just want to go to the streets and scream for these mfkers to let iranians and afghans be free!!!!! what can i do, what can i do….
Although I am glad Iranian movement caught your attention, But I was expecting a more challenging conversation here! something other than replying "right" to whatever Masih is saying.
In Europe women who cover themselves are looked at as brainwashed and oppressed.
In Iran women are forced to cover themselves.
As a hijabi by choice I believe anyone should have the right to wear whatever that want in public.
From an Islamic point of view you can’t force people into anything!
As an European citizen (born and raised) and as someone who also has lived in the US I’ve had to fight and argue time and time again to try and prove I’m not forced to wear hijab by my parents or community.
Why is it that we have to keep fighting for our right to make our own choices?
Europe and America is not better than Iran.
In the west you have the right to change your gender, your have the right to choose any sexuality you prefer, but a lot of places won’t hire you if you’re a hijabi woman. They also still treat black people insanely unfair.
I’m not Iranian but I fear what could happen in Iran. It’s not a secret that the US have interest in the fall of Iran.
Look at Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen etc. change happened there, but did the change improve the quality of life for people?
Peterson is smart but so ignorant about patriarchy. He asked why the antipathy to female freedom. Duh. Duh. Authoritarianism has always been angry at female freedom. Duh. Read real history. Come on.
Thank you for your support ❤
There is so little understanding of the reasons for Obama's stance regarding Iran. The womens' movement is important, but it could never be more important to Obama than for Iran to become a nuclear power, igniting the fuse to war in the middle east between islamic states and Israel. This lady's struggle is real and important, but pales in comparison to WWIII
Anyone saying JB is misogynistic need to stay off the weed
❤Thank you Dr. Peterson for your effort in asking powerful questions. I only wish that your guest would have bother to answer them rather then giving what seems like a canned/preplanned message to support her desired outcome. I find it rather sad that she sees the value of a life supporting her cause but doesn’t see the value of life in the womb. Her statement of ‘my body my choice’ left me cold. What is the difference between someone who kills to stay in power or someone who kills simply because they can? Nothing. First time I’m truly dissatisfied in one of Dr. Peterson’s guests. My prayers go to all those who lost their life and also those left behind. May they find peace. 😢
She is dangerously naive.
Don't forget to mention that it was the CIA 1953 who was responsible for it.
I stopped listening to you over a year ago, but still, thanks for this.
چرت و پرت خوبی بود.
I’m 35, born and raised in Iran. For the first time this interview thought me how the totalitarian government of mullas have been demoralizing and disgracing men and women to their core by forcing hijab on women. Because by covering women in kind of a garbage bag, they promote the idea of week horny men. That reminds of the book 1984 by G. Orwell, depicting a society of weak and suppressed people. The Islam part of this whole story doesn’t have anything to do with the regime. They could be jew, christian or anything else. It’s the totalitarian nature of them, that has finally got a visible rotten image.
Can you not see how democracy has already failed in the West. The “islamophobia” itself has actually been an attack to the “freedom of speech”. Have you not seen they call every criticism with a ton of evidence, islamophobia, or justify by saying that’s not TRUE Islam.
Excuse me what is unfolding in front of your eyes, in the Middle East or Yemen, is the most genuine true face of Islam since its emergence. Wait for a couple of hundred years to see everywhere is a Taleban,
Masih im praying for you and oppressed people everwhere . You are amazing. God has blessed you with the voice of reason for freedom. If 1/4 of American women stood up to the bad in our country like you are doing for yours i believe we would get world peace. Come on America find your voices. God bless us all WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TO LATE. Airhugs of positive loving energy to you all
Americans have no morality
Waiting for Jordan to interview some muslim who was oppressed by the american state of Israel
The Leftist in the West supports Islam, because both share the war on the Biblical God. So, Islam is an ally to the leftists
If the Iranian regime is taken out, there has to a superior moral force to replace the dictatorship of Islam. The reason cameos chaos sets in other ex dictatorship is because there was no moral base given to replace the regime being taken out.
The best moral base is Christianity.
Hitler never saw the A-Bomb, Kennedy never saw the Beatles, Lennon never saw the Gulf war, Bin Laden never saw Wokeism.
Academics never saw war, so as opposed believing their oppression is justified they just don't believe they are capable of oppression – even when they're taking your children away – it's you who aren't contributing enough of yourself to the society, not the non-essentials