The Moon as a stepping stone to Mars | DW News



The space race is back β€” with multiple countries, including China, Russia, India, and Israel β€” trying to reach the moon. But not just for national glory: Space agencies see the moon as a gateway for missions to Mars and beyond. German astronaut Alexander Gerst and ESA director general Josef Ansbacher talk about the Artemis mission and why we should have a permanent settlement on the moon.

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41 thoughts on “The Moon as a stepping stone to Mars | DW News”

  1. Given its proximity to Earth Mars is a good place to explore and thereby learn from. Yet at some point reality must intrude. It is and remains = a dead planet. Thus it is not some place for man "to escape to". A little less science fiction and a tad more realism needs to take hold. Were it not for a century of our science fiction genre built around it and our largely entertainment based culture today I suspect Mars would hold far less fascination for man than it presently does. πŸ€”

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  2. The ESA has a great Earth observations program. I am very glad to see DW news bring this up because it is something Europeans should take pride in and really need to pay attention to. How is one supposed to keep their house in order if they never look around their house to see what is going on? The more countries get involved with this and the more and better the instrumentation and data processing on the backend is, the better and more nuanced this view of our home can get. This is how science works. Even at the 1,000 km view everyone who has ever looked can see there are major problems here and the house is not in order. Then it is just a matter of the people and countries of the world really seriously getting together and solving these problems of how do we get our currently one and only home with the vastness, emptiness, and harshness of space all around us, in order so we can continue to live here? It is vitally important that we expand. It is just also vitally important that we keep this home, Earth, alive and hospitable.

    It will be interesting to see if moving forward into the new era we need to mentally be in to continue to survive if we can get past ideologies and other political dogma enough to map out the actual things we need to be doing in detail and get the political sign off around the world to do it. While this may sound like something that has been done before, we are actually very far from doing the right thing anywhere in the world. We have taken a few good steps in some places, but that is about it. Along the way we got mired down in a thousand different ways that was actually rather pointless and even counter-productive.

    An example I think applies to German politics well is one needs to consider that absolutely everything we do is going to have some sort of impact. There are a number of things we must move swiftly on. When approving something, maybe there needs to be a high level pros and cons evaluation and if the environmental pros at the high level review far outweigh the cons, the project needs to be put on a fast track. This is as in you know there is going to be some environmental cost, but instead of years of study and red tape because there is a cost, you make sure the project can be started and completed quickly after some basic work is done to establish the project as having a sound plan.

    The wider picture here is a number of new projects around the world are initiated to develop the technologies and practices we need to be more sustainable. Then each country is going to be working with other countries to get their assigned piece to the puzzle complete. It is not so much each country does what it wants or what it personally feels is right so much as global panels of experts are assembled and supported by the countries of the world to assemble the global plans and then pass them back to the member countries. Kind of like how we have more global bodies such as NATO and the UN. Except here maybe you make a separate United Nations for Global Sustainability (UNfGS) with a rule set that makes sense for creating a globally sustainable future. Such a panel would be very different from say the UN in that you would only get in this global body if say you have a PhD in the environmental area you are assigned or other essential technical piece, granted the member states would be selecting which PhDs and other experts exactly they send to the panel. So each person assigned will be actively researching and conferring with other researchers to come up with their plans on what makes sense. While this panel would be interacting with politicians, it would not be a political institution as much as a science institution that directs what policies and plans are needed at a global level, reaching down to the local level.

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  3. Idiocy. Dead people can't colonize the moon. Climate change will destroy civilization as we know it. "While the shrinking Lake Mead and Lake Powell in the American West have gotten the lion’s share of press coverage here in the U.S., the issue is a global one. The BBC reported on August 24 that Europe’s drought is the worst in 500 years, and several famous European rivers have run dry. China’s largest freshwater lake and longest river are also running dry. The Guardian said on August 19 that drought in the Horn of Africa has the potential to push more than 22 million people into starvation."

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  4. If you quit flying airplanes all over the world the atmosphere would improve very Fast… All the world leaders need the mandate electric airplanes quit burning fossil fuel… Common sense 101

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  5. I don’t ever think this is going to happen b/c unknown to humans there are armies on the moon . Good luck with that I here there are some badass on the moon and your nukes aren’t going to work and they use telepathy get in your to destroy you. Ecclesiasticus 43:8 The month is called after her name, increasing wonderfully in her changing, being an instrument of the armies above, shining in the firmament of heaven;

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  6. Oh jeez. Not a stepping stone. The moon has no atmosphere. It takes more fuel to go from earth to the moon than it takes to get to mars, because you can slow down with a parachute. On the moon you can only slow down using fuel.

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  7. Failure to expand beyond Earth pretty well dooms the human race. All it takes is another big rock. Regarding the ability to predict climate change from a lunar base or space platform, pretty funny! We already know what will happen, because while we talk about the impact of human caused climate change, we do almost nothing. Nor will we.

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  8. Unable to afford a house on earth? Can't get a job on earth? There's a new life waiting for you in the mines of the moon and mars. Income tax payed per oxygen cannister and VAT on fresh water. Fantastic future for our children NOT!

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  9. Hear me out. If you believe flat earth theory which i do, this is just a bs way to fund wars and countries based on a false theory of space to become the next global superpower. Funny how china russia us and isreal are involved with this. Never believe whats told to you right off the bat. Research yourself and most importantly have an open mind knowing that nothing will be true unless you see it for yourself. God bless us all.

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  10. You should take care of the people who starving to death And destroying our planet before you before you spend billions and billions for absolutely useless things

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  11. Russians will destroy us sooner than any natural reason like climate change.
    It would be better to send all russians to the moon and don't think where to go if something happens on the earth 🌎

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  12. A level of capable industrial capacity on the Moon is definitely extremely desirable for the entire human race. Low escape velocity and no atmosphere makes heavy launches from the Moon comparatively easy given the supporting industry. Certainly launching something like Starship from the Moon would be a low ambition venture then.

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  13. the moon is going to be a must have to go to Mars

    It will be vital for stockpiling supplies for a mars mission

    the only other option would be to build a satellite large enough to serve as a giant gas station for a trip to Mars, not mention stockpiling all the supplies
    It is extremely expensive to launch anything into space from Earth and a Mars mission is going to require a lot more than what one rocket can carry

    the hopeful thing with the moon would be to locate a source of ice that can be melted down and made into oxygen and hydrogen for fuel
    Maybe also setup a mining operation to build some of the tools that will be needed on Mars without having to launch them from Earth

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