The Meter Plugin That Changed My Mind – Sonible True Level & Balance



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24 thoughts on “The Meter Plugin That Changed My Mind – Sonible True Level & Balance”

  1. I use the Izotope tools in a similar way. Their tonal balance plugin is a very similar plugin to the Sonible spectrum snapshot thing you are using. I’ve tried the Sonible stuff like the limiter and compressor. Even though they sound good i was getting annoyed by those little warning messages that pop up saying, “Your song isn’t loud enough”or “it’s too dynamic”. While you get that info from Izotope, it feels more like suggestions and not like I’m doing it wrong. 😅lol. But I’m sure they are useful. I even think Izotope just dropped a new capture program for their tonal spectrum analysis tools. So you can just grab that’s spectrum file from any music playing on your computer and drop it into say, Ozone 10 or Neutron 4. Yeah, they seem similar enough though that using one or the other isn’t going to make a difference. Similars means to the same ends…. Thanks for the videos my friend!

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  2. Thank you for your excellent taste and for showing the noobie that i am what to seek for and explaining why i should seek for that!!!
    Prior to your video i had never realized how distracting meters really were , and now that you demonstrate it i can understand why this is so hard of a task while mixing … However this two new plugins come in handy with relevant informations that we can immediatlly take advantage of without beeing distracted !!! Thank you Matt , keep on the good job🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

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  3. I'm not sure how I feel about these kinds of plugins. It feels like it's too easy for it to become a goal at the expense of the song. Imagine if a super dark record like Mobb Deep's The Infamous had the tonal balance of a modern up beat club rap track. 😂

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  4. Great video once again!
    A couple of questions though….

    A) You mentioned having beef with Meters, pretty much president of the "Mix with your Ears!" club. I assume you didn't feel the same way about Reference Tracks that you do about visual aids. If that's true, then was your advice to USE references, but "listen" for the differences, training your ears if you will, and that the meters will only distract you?

    B) Long before plugins brought all these things together, there's always been slightly-advanced ways to setup your DAW's routing to play back references through your monitoring, and level match that mastered ref with your mix without going through your 2-bus processing chain etc., in order to A/B somewhat apples to apples. I assume you were on board with this to see how your mix stacked up again the competition. (You probably have amazing videos explaining it much better than I just did.). Can I also assume that you'd advise not 'copying' the reference, just 'referencing' the reference? Your mix is your mix?

    C) Ages ago, adding visualization to the reference process came in the form of Voxengo SPAN, for free. And there's a ton of videos out there for how to set it up, not only to "see" what you "hear" in your Own mix, but also to Sidechain in your References and actually See the differences that you may not have even heard, or if you had, maybe couldn't pinpoint. Have you not been doing this, or felt like it wasn't helpful, or worse…distracting?

    D) It seems to me that this current generation of plugins are essentially automating processes and techniques that we've been doing manually for years, and I'm not always convinced that the automated version is actually better. The logic of consolidating a bunch of things into an all-in-one solution sometimes is great and sometimes involves too many compromises. Consolidating a Console Master-Section complete with monitor-controller, a way to hear references, metering, analyzers etc into one plugin is tricky business. Metric AB would be my top recommendation in that category (for the usual $29 Plugin-Alliance sale price). But it can't do what SPAN or Span Plus can do.
    (okay so what's the question?). I guess All-in-One vs Build-your-Own?

    E) I know this video is about a product, but I LOVE your channel because it focuses on fundamental techniques rather than just the latest products or "tips & tricks". With this particular video, and the reason I wrote this long-ass comment, it seems that you are 1) using a New Product that is doing something many of us already do…better 2) learning or maybe just embracing a New Technique yourself, when we usually come to you to find those things.
    So how Would you have referenced your mix Before this plugin? Both for Tonal Balance and for Loudness?

    F) Sonible are Amazing, I agree with you there. But in your demonstration, there seems to be one gigantic thing missing… Actually PLAYING BACK the REFERENCES! Maybe you just chose not to for copyright reasons, but I didn't see anywhere in your demo where it was easy to Play Back the refs. So does it not Let me mix with my ears? Am I supposed to trust that little line Entirely? They know better than I do what my mix should look like on their graphs?

    I'm being a bit facetious, but this does seem like at best an Incomplete solution. You still need to reference on your Reference Monitors. It seems to handle the level matching and analysis for you, but that doesn't buy me much if I still have to set something up to Hear the references. Am I missing something here? If it doesn't consolidate what is already a major part of the workflow, then is it just another Add-On? That again I can already get with a Free download of SPAN?

    G) ….No that's it, my name is G. Im just signing off now!

    G.
    (I hope this is taken in good faith. I know I'm clownin' a bit, but somewhere in there are real questions and concerns.)

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  5. been watching the "smart" series of plugins from Sonible for awhile…totally missed these for some reason…but I'm very intrigued. I loved it when iZotope Ozone had a reference feature way back in like version 3 or 4 where you could reference multiple songs and use the match eq function to preview them…and then they changed it to only one which was a bummer….this feels more liberating having the ability to bring in several references all at once and compare them 🙂

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  6. I will piggy-back on what has been said already by others in this forum about how this product suite is very similar in purpose as Izotope Ozone. However, I'd be curious to know if you would consider conducting a "shoot-out" between the two to suggest which would be "best". I'm very appreciative of your presentation! Thanks!!! 🙂

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  7. Definitely in the "new apartment and havent treated your room" category lol. I totally master with references for that exact reason. That balance between dynamics and loudness is what I normally spend the most time matching with my reference, i wasnt in the market for new plugins but that one seems like a worthy addition!!

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  8. Thanks for this video I'm impressed, by the way time try adding a clipper before your limiter to chop off those unnecessary transients so you're limiter only has to do around -2db of reduction but you still stay loud

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