The Second Avenue Subway is one of the most anticipated subway expansions in New York City. Plans for this line have existed for over a century ago, and only three stations have been built for the line so far. Many people question whether the full line will be able to see the light of day. In today’s video, let’s talk about the good, the bad, and the future of the Second Avenue Subway.
MUSIC USED:
Norman Sann – Don’t Slip on the Drip (Instrumental Version)
MSEC – Good Day
LAKEY INSPIRED – Blue Boi
Jeff Kaale (X I X X) – Skate
KaizanBlue – Remember
NBHD NICK – Summertime in NY (Instrumental Version)
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0:00 Introduction
0:34 Phase 1
1:07 Design of the Line
2:30 Phase 2
3:46 Phase 3
5:11 The Elephant in the room
7:02 Outerborough Expansions: Queens
7:35 Outerborough Expansions: Brooklyn
9:03 Outerborough Expansions: The Bronx
10:17 125 St Crosstown
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Throgs neck badly need something. I think they need a line that connects the Bronx to Brooklyn.
The entire subway system needs an entire overhaul. This piece meal work is making the whole system into a bunch of random bs.
The island platforms of Phase 1 increase flexibility. Both tracks are bidirectional and a train can run in any direction at anytime.
Also for the long walk connections, put some retail space, also some people will actually use the walk from 2 Avenue to Lex to get out of inclimate weather
The next phase of the Second Ave project will be, extended to East 125th St and the phase of the project will be extending it to the MetroNorth Harlem station.
Okay, three things,
1. The (V) going via the 63rd Street Connection would actually work as there is an unfinished Tunnel right outside of Lexington Avenue-63rd Street on the (F) Line.
2. The 2nd Avenue Subway going to the Bronx I'd say should be elevated after 3rd-Avenue-138th Street, running along 3rd Avenue until Botanical Gardens and then across towards Co-Op City.
3. The (T) in Brooklyn is breath taking, though honestly, I think the (V) would be a better pick as the link with Nassau Street would require 8 Car Sets. And then would the (V)'s southern terminus be 9th Avenue on West End or Bay Ridge-95th Street with the (R).
The Answer might be using a Big Bertha Seattle TBM design that way you have the T 2nd ave local upper tunnel Lower Tunnel V 2nd express transfer between the two tracks using the Barcelona Metro setup stack tunnel switches. Making the Q train end at 135th st this can allow B & D trains to run on 2nd ave via 125th to Lexington Ave 63rd street then 6th ave line with the F train from there to 47-50th street
My grandkids would have grandkids before this is done 😂
They can add a metro mover like at the airport to connect people from 42nd and 2nd to grand central
The whole "Phase" planning was a huge mistake. They should have just planned to continue working on the entire line. We are now five years after Phase 1 opened and not one bit of work has started on Phase 2, they're still trying to figure out the money. They should have been using the existing tunnels north of 96th Street as the basis for continuing north and built the 106th and 116th stations by now. The hard part of Phase 2 will be the curve west and the 125th St. station.
They also should have just continued deep tunnel boring south of 63rd St. The actual tunnel boring only took about a year to do between 63rd and 96th. It's those enormous stations and ventilation towers that take up all the time to build. The tunnel boring machines could have made it all the way down to City Hall by now.
Furthermore, if New York State and the MTA can't get construction costs under control then all of this is moot–it will never get done. All the arguments about New York City being "expensive" and "crowded" and blah blah are totally bogus. Tell that to London, Paris, and Tokyo–very crowded and expensive First World cities that managed to build extensive additions at a far lower cost per mile than NYC. First thing that needs to be dealt with are obsolete union rules that require far more workers relative to other complex projects in these other cities.
I agree with extending the line further west on 125th–makes total sense to connect to the West Side lines IRT and IND Lines for people from Uptown and the Bronx needing to get to the East Side.
This expansion was great for ppl who work on the upper east side. There are a few hospitals that employ alot of folks in the area. It saves some commute time and probably eases congestion on lines like the 6 as opposed to using the 6 line. Ppl who live uptown and up in the Bx still gotta do what they gotta do. But for ppl who live in BK or other parts in lower manhattan, that Q line expansion was clutch.
125th is a HUGE problem and they NEED to get a crosstown line above central park.
Regarding express trains, if we don’t have enough money to build four tracks, Maybe designing express stations like four tracks with two island platforms could be an expediency. Also, adding outer bypassing tracks in some local stations.
V might use 63rd street tunnel to sunnyside yard (then all the way through LIRR main line or lower Montauk or other alignments you like) as the space of subway under northern blvd has been built as East Side Access’s en passant.
News flash! 2nd Ave line finally completed. No one uses the subway because of crime and crazies . It is still dirty, no restrooms, rats and the smell!
However the MTA board still gets paid and no one is fired.
Of course there is never talk of extending existing lines in Queens. There is only talk of adding service where it is already plentiful. Over half of Queens has no subway service. The 7 line has not been extended even one millimeter since the Main St. station opened over 90 years ago. The Hillside Ave line has not been extended one inch since the 179 St station opened in the early 1950s. Governor Rockefeller had plans to extend a line from the Woodhaven Blvd IND station along the LI Expressway to Springfield Blvd. This never materialized. Greece, which does not have the monetary resources of the United States, is aggressively adding stations to the subway system in Athens.
We will all be underground before the "No Can Do" crowd at the MTA and the State of New York get around to it!
why can the T not be an Express and Local service like the 7? (but you know actually all the time in both directions)
I like the edited R46 rollsign!
The T line doesn't need an express track!!! The stations are spaced out. Regarding the Island platform and the grand mezzanine on the 2nd Ave, I actually love it. They have to dig all the way down to the track level so it makes sense to make the mezzanine grand. I'm hoping they change the Q to go to W125th Street by the ABCD trains but I doubt it.
I really love the idea of the (T) going on the Fulton Line. For years, I always thought it would be a good idea for the (C) train to go to Lefferts Blvd but a lot of people thought it was a bad idea because it would be switching tracks too much since only the express tracks keep going after Euclid Avenue. The (T) train serving the local tracks instead of the (C) would solve this problem perfectly.
You cant change the color of the V. The V was orange line already
What happened to the sound on this video?
I think MTA should send the (L) train to jamacia center via the J express line skipping Cleveland st to 121 st
That new map design sucks.