I’m back! No more pesky appendix, lots of refits and preparing for war which kicks off in grand style as Japan takes on the Royal Navy!
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Captain of the 1st Company: Treefrog
Veteran Sergeants: 1stplaceonion, LCG Canyon, Welshy, Rui
Sergeants: Jackie, Twitchyknees
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Also for the 16” bbs & the obami u forgot the oil 3.
welcome back hope your fine and no issue comming back from the Hospital
Been there man with my appendix it's rough.
Welcome back but you didn't add oil 3 and the Satsuma and the Obami
Glad to hear you're doing well. Striches are no fun. I've had that surgery.
Welcome back admiral! Glad to see you doing well and recovering quick. Cheers!
1 trillion dollar naval budget in 1940s dollars LMFAOOO The US gdp is 4x what the entire globes gdp was in 1940 that is hilarious
Welcome back Brother, glad that you're doing good. I'm looking forward to you keep on building cool ships
Hope your feeling better and getting there so glad your back. But take time if you need it
Had that operation myself, no fun at all. Glad you're back in the conning tower captain.
This episode was amazing and epic
Did you remember to find out where Great Britain's oil supply is before starting this war of agression?
Glad your feeling better BroMunro. Love your content. Hope the pain when coughing goes away quickly!
5:04: I wish you'd bring up the turret tool tips AFTER you adjust the calibers and the propellant rather than before so I can get the correct information about their capability.
7:06: It occurs to me that you didn't look to see if there were new towers to use, not that it would be likely.
A Commander rushes into the UK Admirals office — Sir we have a major problem. … Well spill it good man what's the issue? Well sire it appears the contractor has not used the main deck plating we asked for. We do not have 3-4 inches of armor on the decks? … That is serious. What is it then, 2-3 inches? … No sir it's worse than that. It's sheets of wood painted in battleship gray to look like armor. …. What!!!! LOL. When a nation loses 1/5 of their ship tonnage in one battle .. that is catastrophic at best
Hey Brother Munro.I initially asked if you would do a RtW3 campaign. turns out you already have!
Gald your back man hope your feeling better
Glad to see you're back! BTW, you forgot to fit the Satsuma v2's and Obamis with Oil 3. You might be able to give the Satsuma v2s Maximum bulkheads and improve the Obamis' internal protection if you swap the Oil.
Brothermunro: Don’t let Jackie Fisher design your battleships
My coffee got spewed all over the dash board of my semi 😂
Great to have you back, hope you heal up soon bud.
23:53: The Hood Battlecruiser: how to stop a captain from engaging in a chase and force him to use his whole broadside. ….
25:02: Nope, that's the Prince of Wales class battleship King George V. The Hoods are very stupidly designed. The Prince of Wales class is just without a secondary, so slightly stupidly designed.
25:38: The Barfleur's have two triple 8.4" turrets fore and aft. The Montagu's have one triple 8.2" turret forward and two twin 8.2" turrets amidships.
That ship does look like a fail 34:50
First Battle of the Islanders’ War, Part 2
Yomiuri shinbun, Tokyo, 13 July 1945
A Merciless Slaughter
A heavily damaged Carysfort class light cruiser, quite possibly the Marathon, sank from uncontrollable flooding. If the Marathon she had 141 survivors from her 782 man crew. Satsuma was turning the battle line to chase the British and was down to 25 kilometers with the speed to catch all the capital ships except King George V.
The Montagu class battleship Canopus sank with 1465 of her 1646 man crew after turning towards the Japanese battle line to fall back in formation. It is clear that her sister ships sank around her, but the sequence is not clear. From interviewing her 115 survivors the Navy believes the Barham sank before Canopus, breaking apart under fire. Then they believe the class lead Montagu sank after Canopus, also breaking up and leaving 230 survivors. Finally Eagle, which was pulling away from the rest of her class and trying to join King George V, shattered, leaving 86 survivors. The Montagus and Hoods were gone.
Fire shifted to the remaining battleships, Marlborough and Agamemnon along with King George V. Holding King George V in division with the other ships doomed the Prince of Wales class battleship, which was fast enough to have pulled away from the Japanese battle line if they had sent her off early and alone. But King George V was leading the division and was targeted, and having lost speed fell away from the Japanese battle line to take up station at the end of the division. Agamemnon was now leading Marlborough with King George V forming behind them. King George V never got back into line, sinking with 727 of her 817 man crew, a weird under designed ship. Marlborough broke up next, going down with 1605 of her 1768 man crew. Agamemnon’s fate was unique, abandoned by her crew when the fires took over, only 28 men getting of the ship.
Carysfort and Thetis chose this moment to turn back and burn smoke, hoping to get to the Japanese battle line with their torpedoes. But Japanese ships aren’t confused by smoke, and the Carysfort broke up under 16” fire, taking 728 of her 782 man crew down with her. Thetis sank immediately after, going down with 673 of her crew.
The four Phaeton class light cruisers simply had not been a factor in the battle yet. They had not made to close on the battle line and been driven off as Marathon had. Nor had they cruised out of the range of the Japanese 16” shells. Now having no other target, the battleships began to fire on and hit the four cruisers, blasting right through their belt armor. It appears that Barrosa was destroyed by 16” fire, coming apart and leaving 187 survivors of her 1247 man crew. Topaze was broken next, and she left the same number of survivors. Enterprise tried to hide in smoke, but she too was shattered, and left 262 survivors. Archer sank and left 150 survivors.
The battleships, battlecrusiers, and light cruisers of the British Pacific fleet were wiped out. In total it was 470 thousand tonnage of displacement. 18,062 officers and sailors were killed or lost at sea. 2,399 were found and taken prisoner. Losses for the Dai-ichi Kantai were 178 officers and men on Satsuma, 58 on Hyūga, 49 on Yamashiro, and 10 on Kaga.
First Battle of the Islanders’ War, Part 1
Yomiuri shinbun, Tokyo, 13 July 1945
Two Island Nations At War
The new Dai-ichi Kantai (1st or Main Fleet), consisting of the Ise class battleships Ise, Yamashiro, and Shimane, the Satsuma class battleships Satsuma, Kaga, and the flagship Hyūga, accompanied by the Tsugura class light cruisers Izumi and Matsushima, and the Magami class light crusier Sendai and Yaeyama, all refitted in 1943, were ordered to the Yellow Sea to invest the Weihaiwei peninsula occupied by the Republic of Great Britain. The Kaigun-Hohei (Naval Infantry) had begun their landings when the British Pacific Fleet arrived, consisting of two Barfleur class battleships, the Marlborough and Agamemnon, with four twin 13.1” gun turrets as their main battery, 24.1 knot speed, and Modern I armor, four Montagu class battleships, the class lead and her sisters Barham, Canopus, and Eagle with their four twin 14.3” Mark 4 gun turrets, 22.1 knot speed, and Krupp V armor only on her main belt and turrets, and the Prince of Wales class battleship King George V, with her three twin 12.2” guns, 26.4 knot speed, and Krupp III armor. They also had two Hood class battlecruisers, the Northumberland and Royal Alfred, armed with three twin 17.3” gun turrets, 42.1 knot speed, and Krupp IV armor, three Carysfort class light cruisers, the class lead and her sister ships Marathon and Thetis with their three triple 7.6” gun turrets, 32.5 knot speed, and Krupp V armor along with four Phaeton class light cruisers, the Archer, Barrosa, Enterprise, and Topaze with their five single 5.3” gun mounts, 34.3 knot speed, and Modern II armor.
The Dai-ichi Kantai formed with Satsuma in the lead, followed by the flagship Hyūga, the Ise, Yamashiro, Shimane, and Kaga. The battle line made their speed 23 knots and prepared to meet the enemy to the west by turning south to open their broadside, opening fire immediately. The light cruisers under the division leader Matsushima were ordered to screen the battle line and ensure no enemy light ships or torpedoes approached undetected.
The first hit of the battle came from a 13.1” gun of a Barfleur on Satsuma. The Japanese battle line soon replied with 16” shells, getting four hits before a Montagu got a 14.3” hit. The Japanese ships got two more 16” hits before another 13.1” shell hit. And so it continued, with the Japanese battle line getting multiple hits for everyone from the British. Shimane got the first major hit, damaging a main tower and taking out the ship’s fire control on a Barfleur. The British battleship had already lost her forward 8.4” triple turret and had her two forward 13.1” turrets severely damaged.
As the battle continued the British showed horrifically bad ship handling, allowing their capital ships to cruise at their max speeds and run into each other when the Admiral ordered a turn to north to hold open the range. Their light cruisers were already hiding under smoke and trying to retire, leaving their battleships and battlecruisers to be picked off without the threat of a torpedo attack disrupting the Japanese ships’ fire. The first ship sunk was a Hood class battlecruiser, the Northumberland, which broke apart and took 854 of her 1095 man crew down with her. Her sister ship sank after Royal Alfred her, going down with 920 of her crew.
Cont’d
18 Inch Yamato Class Refit
Yomiuri shinbun, Tokyo, 18 May 1945
With the outbreak of war the Kaigun Kensetsu-Kyoku of the Kaigun-shō has announced a refit of the 18” armed Yamato class of the Dai-Nippon Teikoku Kaigun, with the first tranche Yamato and Musashi commissioning just as the Mark 5 18.1”/50 gun have completed testing. This emergency wartime refit is considered prudent because the increased capability of these ships will be necessary when the war is taken to the waters of Great Britain.
Advanced MnKtS will be installed on the class. The aft turret position was slightly adjusted for the larger caliber gun turrets. Other standard elements of refit will be Coincidence V range finders, advanced auto-loaders for guns, and standardization on the Citadel V “All or Nothing” armor scheme using Modern II methods which help compensate for the greater threat environment.
The bursting charge for shells will be the standard TNT IV. The propellant charges will now be Triple Base. The engineering plant will be changed to advanced marine diesels burning formula III fuel oil vented through the one funnel. The propellers and shafts will be improved to the latest Mark 5 form.
The class will retain the ABX triple turret scheme, and thus will keep their profile. The class retains their 2” secondary of twenty-six triple 2”/31 Mark 5 gun turrets. Crew complement has been increased to 2076 officers and men to provide more crew redundancy on long cruises.
Modern II armor has replaced the Krupp V armor. Internal compartmentation has been increased.
With the upgrade to advanced marine diesels the range of the class is now 10,623 nautical miles. The refit of the Yamato and Musashi will take five months and will be done at Sasebo in the Nagasaki Prefecture on Kyūshū. The second tranche of Kii, Hatsuse, and Shinano will be refitted after their three month commissioning.
Great Britain Declares War on Japan
Yomiuri shinbun, Tokyo, 12 May 1945
The Republic of Great Britain has declared war on the Empire of Japan. In this declaration they have the diplomatic support of the Bundesrepublik Deutschland, the United States of America and the Russian Federation.
The Empire of Japan has the diplomatic support the Repubblica Italiana and the Republica de España, and the alliance of the nations of Bulgaria, Brazil, Argentina, Columbia, Arabia, Tunisia, Egypt, Netherlands, and Britain’s former allies Canada and Portugal who rejected the British when they executed the former Royal family for “Being German”.
British Demand an End of Provocations, Redress of Injuries
Yomiuri shinbun, Tokyo, 5 May 1945
The Republic of Great Britain has formally demanded that the Empire of Japan end it provocative actions and redress previous injuries by providing funds directly from the moneys retained by the Dai-gensui-riku-kai-gun-taishō of the Dai-Nippon Teikoku Kaigun. The Naval Minister had rejected any such monetary demands and lays the blame for the provocations on the British Republic Navy and the First Sea Lord.
The Prime Minister has offered to allocate additional funding to the Dai-Nippon Teikoku Kaigun. The Dai-gensui-riku-kai-gun-taishō has stated that the Fleet is more than ready to meet the threat of the British.
The Press has also been questioning the state of the fleet. The spokesman for the Kaigun-shō (Navy Ministry) has reassured the Japanese people that the fleet is ready to protect them and the Empire’s interests.
Navy Testing the British
Yomiuri shinbun, Tokyo, 13 February 1945
The Dai-Nippon Teikoku Kaigun has been accused by the British Republic Navy of deliberately provoking incidents between ships of the two nations. No policy has been announced regarding this, and all denials seem to be rather superficial, as if the Dai-gensui-riku-kai-gun-taishō wants the First Lord of the Admiralty to know we aren’t sincere.
The question then becomes, are two nations that share such commonalities and Japan and Britain natural collaborators, as we were in the late 1930’s, or are we natural competitors?
More Cruiser Refits
Yomiuri shinbun, Tokyo, 3 March 1944
The Kaigun Kensetsu-Kyoku of the Kaigun-shō has announced a refit of all cruisers of the Dai-Nippon Teikoku Kaigun as shipyard capacity allows.
Advanced MnKtS will be installed on all refits. Other standard elements of refit will be Coincidence V range finders, advanced auto-loaders for guns, advanced electro-hydraulic turret turning engines, and standardization on the Citadel V “All or Nothing” armor scheme using Modern II armor. The anti-torpedo bulges will be extended to the bottom of the ship hull, giving more protection against deep running torpedoes.
The bursting charge for shells will be standardized to TNT IV. The propellant charges will now be Triple Base. Because of the characteristics of both TNT IV and Triple Base improved flash fire protection for 5” guns and larger will be installed.
All classes with torpedoes will have the advanced 24” torpedoes installed
The engineering plant will be changed to advanced marine diesels burning formula III fuel oil. This is the primary upgrade that provides weight savings for improvements guns and improved torpedo protection for heavy cruisers. The propellers and shafts will be improved to the latest Mark 5.
Washiba Class: Range reduced to 11,900 nautical miles. Crew reduced to 678 officers and enlisted men. Quadruple launchers replace quintuple launchers. Ten ships taking 5 months to refit.
Tsukushi Class: Range reduced to 9,400 nautical miles. Eight ships taking 3 months to refit.
Cruiser Refits
Yomiuri shinbun, Tokyo, 16 November 1943
The Kaigun Kensetsu-Kyoku of the Kaigun-shō has announced a refit of all cruisers of the Dai-Nippon Teikoku Kaigun as shipyard capacity allows.
Advanced MnKtS will be installed on all refits. Other standard elements of refit will be Coincidence V range finders, advanced auto-loaders for guns, advanced electro-hydraulic turret turning engines, and standardization on the Citadel V “All or Nothing” armor scheme using Modern II armor. The anti-torpedo bulges will be extended to the bottom of the ship hull, giving more protection against deep running torpedoes.
The bursting charge for shells will be standardized to TNT IV. The propellant charges will now be Triple Base. Because of the characteristics of both TNT IV and Triple Base improved flash fire protection for 5” guns and larger will be installed.
All classes with torpedoes will have the advanced 24” torpedoes installed.
The engineering plant will be changed to advanced marine diesels burning formula III fuel oil. This is the primary upgrade that provides weight savings for improvements guns and improved torpedo protection for heavy cruisers. The propellers and shafts will be improved to the latest Mark 5.
Abukuma Class: Speed increased to 38 knots and a triple bottom hull installed. Ten ships taking 3 months to refit.
Niyoda Class: Triple bottom hull installed and electro-diesel auxiliary engines. Range now 22,800 nautical miles. Ten ships taking 3 months to refit.
Tengu Class: Range reduced to 16,000 nautical miles. Eight ships taking 3 months to refit.
Tateshina Class: Range reduced to 9,000 nautical miles. Eight ships taking 3 months to refit.
Imperial Japanese Army takes Xinjiang
Yomiuri shinbun, Tokyo, 12 November 1943
The Imperial Japanese Army has taken control the ungoverned territory of Xinjiang from their bases in Mongolia. This unites the Empire’s continental possessions for the first time.
Obami Class Battlecruiser Class Refit Ordered
Yomiuri shinbun, Tokyo, 24 July 1943
The Kaigun Kensetsu-Kyoku of the Kaigun-shō has finally announced a refit of the Obami class battlecruisers for the Dai-Nippon Teikoku Kaigun, to the Mark 5 12”/55 gun.
Advanced MnKtS will be installed on on the class. Other standard elements of refit will be Coincidence V range finders, advanced auto-loaders for guns, advanced electro-hydraulic turret turning engines, a requirement with the heavy turrets of the Mark 5 12”/55 guns, and standardization on the Citadel V “All or Nothing” armor scheme using Modern II armor. The anti-torpedo bulges will be extended to the bottom of the ship hull, giving more protection against deep running torpedoes.
The bursting charge for shells will be standardized to TNT IV. The propellant charges will now be Triple Base. Because of the characteristics of both TNT IV and Triple Base improved flash fire protection for 5” guns and larger will be installed. Flash Fire V systems will be installed in the existing barbettes.
The engineering plant will be changed to advanced marine diesels. This is the primary upgrade that provides weight savings for improvements such as the change to Mark 5 12”/55 guns and improved torpedo protection. The propellers and shafts will be improved to the latest Mark 5 form.
The class will retain the four triple turrets for the main battery mounted ABXY. Twenty triple 2”/26 Mark 5 guns form the secondary battery. The crew complement remains 1366 officers and men. Range is now 17,800 nautical miles.
The refit of the Obami, Maohotaka, Tate, Kitahotaka, and Wakamiya will be done at Yokosuka in the Kanagawa Prefecture on Honshu and will take 4 months.
16 Inch Capital Ships Refits Ordered
Yomiuri shinbun, Tokyo, 12 July 1943
General Upgrades
The Kaigun Kensetsu-Kyoku of the Kaigun-shō has announced a refit of all 16” armed ships of the Dai-Nippon Teikoku Kaigun, with the general state of peace and the development of the Mark 5 16”/50 gun.
Advanced MnKtS will be installed on all refits. Other standard elements of refit will be Coincidence V range finders, advanced auto-loaders for guns, advanced electro-hydraulic turret turning engines, a requirement with the heavy turrets of the Mark 5 16”/50 guns, and standardization on the Citadel V “All or Nothing” armor scheme using Modern II methods which help compensate for the greater penetrating power of the Mark 5 16” guns. The anti-torpedo bulges will be extended to the bottom of the ship hull, giving more protection against deep running torpedoes.
The bursting charge for shells will be standardized to TNT IV. The propellant charges will now be Triple Base. Because of the characteristics of both TNT IV and Triple Base improved flash fire protection for 5” guns and larger will be installed. Due to the size of the 16”/50 Mark 5 guns the barbettes have to be rebuilt in any case, allowing us to install the Flash Fire V protection from the new installation where it happens. Otherwise the Flash Fire V systems will be installed in the existing barbettes.
The engineering plant will be changed to advanced marine diesels burning formula III fuel oil. This is the primary upgrade that provides weight savings for improvements such as the change to Mark 5 16”/50 guns and improved torpedo protection. The propellers and shafts will be improved to the latest Mark 5 form.
Class Details
Satsuma'43 Refit Specifics: The Satsuma class will retain the ABX triple turret scheme, and thus will keep their profile. The X or aft turret had to be relocated slightly further back. The Mark 5 16”/50 gun triple turrets will weigh 3,760 tons and have crews of 130 men. The class retains their 5” secondary of six triple 5”/50 Mark 5 gun turrets and a tertiary of fourteen triple 3”/25 Mark 4 gun turrets. Crew complement remains 1403 officers and men.
Modern II armor has replaced the Krupp V armor, with a slight increase of the thickness of the inner layering. The main and extended belts and decks have retained their current thickness so as not to greatly affect the trim of the ship. Internal compartmentation has been increased.
With the upgrade to advanced marine diesels the range of the class is now 10,623 nautical miles. The refit of the Satsuma, Kaga, and Hyūga will take seven months and will be done at Sasebo in the Nagasaki Prefecture on Kyūshū.
Ise '43 Refit Specifics: The Ise class will retain the ABX triple turret scheme, and thus will keep their profile but subtle adjustments to their towers and barbettes were necessary. The A turret was moved forward to accommodate the larger turret.
The three triple 6”/40 Mark 5 gun turrets were retained as the secondary but had their positions adjusted. The class will also retain the twenty-six triple 2”/33 Mark 5 dual purpose guns mounted in the superstructure. Crew complement remains 1881 officers and men. Range is now 9,200 nautical miles.
The refit of the Ise, Yamashiro, and Shimane will take 4 months and will be done at Yokosuka in the Kanagawa Prefecture on Honshu.
Glad you're on the mend!
I would love to see you still try with the super battleship. Maybe use duals instead of triples to save weight or compromise on other thing. It would be cool to see even just 1 20 inch ship hanging around.
Welcome back! Nice to hear you're in the way back to recovery (and that the Adeptus Mechanicus didn't get their mechadendrites on you to add some questionable improvements!)
Good to have you back, BM, and I'm glad you're on the mend.
The Obamis are still running on Oil II, could have gotten even better range and probably some displacement as well.
And the Tengus still have Krupp V, going Modern II and shaving 50t off would have fixed them right up.
So the Royal Navy has:
1) a BB with no real armor, making it pointless
2) a BB with all the armor where they forgot to put guns of decent caliber on it, so it can take hits from a BB but can't damage anything beyond a CA
3) a BC with all the speed, but armor only sufficient to deal with CAs yet armed with such large weapons the rate of fire is atrocious and it would take ages to sink a cruiser fleet
what the actual F was the AI planning to do here?
Allow me to join the welcome back chorus (Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah, hallelujah, halley-lu-jah!) You should name an upcoming ship the Stephu Colbertu.