14 thoughts on “The End of Logic Pro (thanks to the iPad) | Livestream + Q&A”
…for now its impossible for ipad logic to replace the mac version, there are so many things missing on the ipad, 90 percent of the plugins on a mac cant work on ipad, but maybe in the future will be a good alternative..regards
This is from Apples developer guide to subscriptions – Great subscription apps justify the recurring payment by providing ongoing value and continually innovating the app experience. If you’re considering implementing the subscription model, plan to regularly update your app with feature enhancements or expanded content.
No midi mapping or midi learn for external midi controllers, yet!! Recently purchased a midi keyboard controller (Nektar lx88+); and knobs, faders and buttons don’t work with the iPad.
Interesting topic. We're looking into a crystal ball here, so it's anyone's guess what Apple will do. I do not see them removing features from Logic Pro, though. Apple's MO so far is to continue to add on and improve Logic Pro. I remember Logic Pro before Drummer, before Alchemy, before Mellotron, Studio Strings, Studio Horns, before Space Designer, etc and so on. Slow and steady progress, and these were all very good additions. To move backwards would be to throw out the history of the product. To me, the big question is whether Logic Pro for Mac goes subscription. If they do, they're going to lose a bunch of users. As pointed out in the video, we haven't seen updates to the iPad version so far, and I think that the subscription model won't work unless you get constant improvements. Which haven't happened yet.
Fun fact talking about "tending to trust eyes over ears". IMHO, that is what has unfortunately dissuaded many from involvement with Symbolic Sounds Kyma, (GUI developed in assembly language and Smalltalk), and the associated hardware lineup of sound engines, Capybara and Pacarana. The product line is a work of genius, yet both are so misunderstood and dissed. The company founders, Carla and Kurt, deserve far more credit than they are given for their accomplishments. Kyma maybe no more complicated nor costly than seriously diving into any other major DAW workstation with their endless add-on plugins with upgrade costs.
If Apple caters to ipad users for logic, they are going to ruin professional DAW software. ipad is not something that is suppose to be a person's main DAW computer. ipad has small screens compared to professional laptops and desktops. Editing is more of a hassle. For God sake, why is this younger generation so obsessed with making the visual experience smaller. I have students at school that write term papers and essays on damn cellphones. Anyone serious about music, and who wants to be a professional, should be using laptops or desktops hooked to LARGE SCREEN MONITORS. My opinion for Logic Pro users is to start to get comfortable using another DAW as a backup to when Apple screws Logic up all together. Also, hand on to your latest Logic Pro software, because most likely Apple will destroy any updated versions as time goes on. I have been learning Reaper DAW more and more as a backup to my main DAW, which is Logic Pro. My predictions is that Logic Pro software will follow the IOS version and go subscription based, which will destroy Logic. I will switch to Reaper before I ever pay subscriptions for a DAW.
Hehe, they probably add an AI, so people can generate the music instead. 😋 Seriously I hope AI gets integrated at some future time to do the boring editing, being the technician or co producer etc. Perhaps also generate eg specific instrument to tracks similar to BIAB technology. Eg convert this melody to pedal steel or to a choir in gospel style etc. 😃
No. The Mac desktops apps aren’t “light” versions now because they’re also available on iPhone and iPad. Apple’s (Steve Job) vision is to make top quality products (both hardware and software) with advanced features and technology without being complex for customers. Better said: a natural way to use your hardware and software. That’s what happened to the Mac desktop apps for a while now. And the title of the video is a pathetic conclusion or even to think about such thing. Evolve and don’t blindly stare blindfolded in the past. The future is now.
…for now its impossible for ipad logic to replace the mac version, there are so many things missing on the ipad, 90 percent of the plugins on a mac cant work on ipad, but maybe in the future will be a good alternative..regards
This is from Apples developer guide to subscriptions – Great subscription apps justify the recurring payment by providing ongoing value and continually innovating the app experience. If you’re considering implementing the subscription model, plan to regularly update your app with feature enhancements or expanded content.
I won’t buy it until they fix flex features and make it less cluttered. The subscription sucks because they are updating fast enough for me.
iPad OS is so behind. The iPad has the power but it doesn't work as a computer, it feels like a giant iPhone
No midi mapping or midi learn for external midi controllers, yet!! Recently purchased a midi keyboard controller (Nektar lx88+); and knobs, faders and buttons don’t work with the iPad.
Interesting topic. We're looking into a crystal ball here, so it's anyone's guess what Apple will do. I do not see them removing features from Logic Pro, though. Apple's MO so far is to continue to add on and improve Logic Pro. I remember Logic Pro before Drummer, before Alchemy, before Mellotron, Studio Strings, Studio Horns, before Space Designer, etc and so on. Slow and steady progress, and these were all very good additions. To move backwards would be to throw out the history of the product. To me, the big question is whether Logic Pro for Mac goes subscription. If they do, they're going to lose a bunch of users. As pointed out in the video, we haven't seen updates to the iPad version so far, and I think that the subscription model won't work unless you get constant improvements. Which haven't happened yet.
I’ve got it on my iPad but I’m seriously thinking about going Studio One on laptop.
Fun fact talking about "tending to trust eyes over ears". IMHO, that is what has unfortunately dissuaded many from involvement with Symbolic Sounds Kyma, (GUI developed in assembly language and Smalltalk), and the associated hardware lineup of sound engines, Capybara and Pacarana. The product line is a work of genius, yet both are so misunderstood and dissed. The company founders, Carla and Kurt, deserve far more credit than they are given for their accomplishments. Kyma maybe no more complicated nor costly than seriously diving into any other major DAW workstation with their endless add-on plugins with upgrade costs.
I've used Logic since the eMagic days. That's over 20+ years. We've had a very intimate relationship for a long time.
Today I use Reaper, and wish I did A LOT sooner.
Reaper makes EVERY other daw look like a toy for many many reasons. First, starting with the price. After that, it's a gift that keeps on giving.
I was worried about Apple buying eMagic Logic. Guess it took this long for that move to catch up.
Is it time to switch to Cubase?
If Apple caters to ipad users for logic, they are going to ruin professional DAW software. ipad is not something that is suppose to be a person's main DAW computer. ipad has small screens compared to professional laptops and desktops. Editing is more of a hassle. For God sake, why is this younger generation so obsessed with making the visual experience smaller. I have students at school that write term papers and essays on damn cellphones. Anyone serious about music, and who wants to be a professional, should be using laptops or desktops hooked to LARGE SCREEN MONITORS. My opinion for Logic Pro users is to start to get comfortable using another DAW as a backup to when Apple screws Logic up all together. Also, hand on to your latest Logic Pro software, because most likely Apple will destroy any updated versions as time goes on. I have been learning Reaper DAW more and more as a backup to my main DAW, which is Logic Pro. My predictions is that Logic Pro software will follow the IOS version and go subscription based, which will destroy Logic. I will switch to Reaper before I ever pay subscriptions for a DAW.
Hehe, they probably add an AI, so people can generate the music instead. 😋 Seriously I hope AI gets integrated at some future time to do the boring editing, being the technician or co producer etc. Perhaps also generate eg specific instrument to tracks similar to BIAB technology. Eg convert this melody to pedal steel or to a choir in gospel style etc. 😃
No. The Mac desktops apps aren’t “light” versions now because they’re also available on iPhone and iPad. Apple’s (Steve Job) vision is to make top quality products (both hardware and software) with advanced features and technology without being complex for customers. Better said: a natural way to use your hardware and software. That’s what happened to the Mac desktop apps for a while now. And the title of the video is a pathetic conclusion or even to think about such thing. Evolve and don’t blindly stare blindfolded in the past. The future is now.
Hey Siri. Make music!