00:00:00 – Intro
00:00:47 – Early submarines used either petrol or kerosene powered engines, what were the benefits to using these types vs a diesel engine if any?
00:04:19 – U-boats are often used in an offensive position like hunting convoys or capital ships, but what about in a defensive position?
00:08:13 – Why did Japans Jeune Ecole style fleet have so much trouble with the obsolete Chinese ironclads?
00:11:58 – How many of the pre-1894 Majestic era ironclad oddities survived long enough to be scrapped during Fisher’s housecleaning of Victorian leftovers?
00:14:34 – Why the Royal Navy tradition of naming ships “Temeraire”, when it’s entirely a French word? Was the original Temeraire just so good, that it became a core part of Royal Navy tradition?
00:17:49 – How are depth charge throwers such as k and Y guns reloaded at sea? Also, how are additional depth charges added to the roller racks during a fight? Is it just muscle power of the crew?
00:20:42 – How did the U-Boats deal with salt water corrosion of deck guns?
00:24:19 – Would it be possible to build certain battleship types much earlier?
00:29:26 – How were local transfers (between islands) handled by the US in WWII?
00:33:44 – Why were the Unryu’s a different class?
00:38:03 – Are there any sketch designs or blueprints that show what the Montanas would’ve looked like if the true specs of Yamato were known?
00:42:06 – Japanese flare drops for night attacks
00:46:25 – Where were the main hunting grounds of American and French Privateers during the American Revolution? For the Americans, did they change as the war went on?
00:51:06 – The Convair Sea Dart and hydroski fighters?
00:55:28 – Fleet Admiral William Leahy?
00:58:34 – Do you think the tender Akitsushima was effective with only 1 flying boat as her entire air complement?
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To give you some idea as to how hard it was to build the Shokakus: they took as long as the Yamatos from keel laying to commissioning, and the slipways they were built in had to be enlarged to accommodate them.
Edit: for reference, Shokaku and Zuikaku were laid down in the autumn of 1937 and entered service in the autumn of 1941, while Yamato and Musashi were laid down in late 1937 and early 1938 respectively (as part of the same naval expansion as the Shokakus) and entered service in late 1941 and mid-1942 respectively. And keep in mind, the Shokakus were rushed into service for the PH raid.
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Short question guys: Does anyone remember the previous drydock where he talked about the size reduction under Fisher? I've been looking for it for a while (and the list with all questions covered isn't exactly up to date, checked that already)
Drach says Japanese torpedo boat and i think the Kamchatka 😂
In regards to 00:47, there is something that should be noted here, technology wise. With early engines, you will very often see references in the original texts to "oil electric" or "kerosene electric" engines, as well as "oil" and "kerosene" engines. This leads many researchers to think that these engines literally run off of light oil, or kerosene. This isn't the case. Keeping in mind that the term "diesel fuel" didn't come into common use until about 1936, with the advent of more popular diesel engines being produced around the world by Mercedes-Benz. Prior to that, a multitude of various terms were used for this fuel type, including (but not limited to), coal-oil, kerosene, oil, and lighting fluid.
Another thing that is often missed, is the composition of early diesel fuel. Contrary to what you implied, diesel isn't always a kind of oil distillate, and didn't suffer greatly from distribution issues. In fact, the composition of diesel fuel would vary by nation. For example, in the US, diesel fuel was being made from oil, which was cheap and easily obtained. Distribution of this was already in place through rail networks, with oil transportation having began in earnest in the late 1800's. By the time of WW1, it was relatively easy to transport fuel oil (including diesel) where it needed to be. In nations that lacked large oil reserves, however, diesel was produced from coal. Specifically coal-tar would be distilled to produce a coal based diesel. This type of diesel was of a lower quality than the oil diesel, but with the early engines that didn't really matter that much as you weren't getting a great deal of power out of it to begin with. Distribution there, however, did tend to prove problematic, as fuel oil transportation by rail (everything went by rail) in those days was in its infancy, and it would be well into the 1920's, early 1930's before Europe and Britain caught up to the United States.
In short, if an engine is listed as using kerosene prior to about 1936, then it is actually a diesel engine. The term 'diesel' fuel wasn't in wide use at that point in time, which is why the name doesn't make sense. Meaning that yes, there were very early diesel engines in submarines, they just weren't called 'diesel'.
Αhh yeeesh. .. relax time
Drac. No german U boat had petrol engines first German U boat U1 was powered by twin Körtin heavy oil motors (1906) Germany built the Karps for Russia. Only in 1913 did the Germans use diesels in U19 again two 850hp each four stokes by M.A.N.
Re K guns the spigot is pretty heavy too
59:18 what does the dot camouflage do on the funnel and side of the ship?
In reference to Temeraire history will remember the Name Enterprise
Just for comparison with those 150-200 ton Japanese torpedo boats in the 1890s, the US PT boats of WW2 displaced 50-100 tons and PT-109 (JFKs) and PT-493 (lost at Surigao Strait) in particular displaced 56 tons.
Way cool and early enough
Thank you for answering my question.
As far as a type that could have been built earlier, other than the fact there wasn't anything that needed that big of a response there's no real reason someone couldn't have built a ship similar to Orion/Bretagne/New York at around the same time as dreadnought.
There was certainly liners and stuff bigger it's not like you couldn't make a power plant that big and 13.5 and larger guns had already been a thing in the ironclad era, they just chose to gu up in number of 12 in turrets in a gradual expansion instead of going straight there for practical and logistical reasons
Regarding the use of flares by the Japanese spotters, I suspect that the red and green marker buoy was to mark Port and Starboard which would also indicate the direction of travel. I don't know this, but it seems to make sense to me.
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Ahoy, What is the music I hear at the beginning of every Drydock episode ? I neeeeeeeeeeeeeed to know.
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Also people, I recommend some good 'sailer coffee' called 'inka' from Poland.
During WW1 and WW2 were the crews rotated on / off? How was this done? There are so many technical issues – with particular ships and could span decades of tech development. ? How did the personnel office handle things and track where the same or rotate people?
41:20 How come Drachinifel keeps going back and forwards over whether "Iowa's guns were so OP and could penetrate any bit of armor on Yamato at all ranges" and "Yamato's armor was well equipped to deal with Iowa's shells, and boasted large immunity zones.
He also contradicted himself when he said Montana's guns were as good as Yamato's, as he has stated the exact opposite in previous videos, and indeed, testing with both ships proves that Yamato could penetrate more steel.
Built a plastic model back in the day. What a kludge in there with Kclass subs, or IJN submarine aircraft carriers, just look at the spray from a smooth sea! But how weirdly cool!
Fascinating as always … great 👍 work 👏
Now I have "Barrett's Privateers" by Stan Rogers stuck in my head. Life could be worse… 😁
When I say this its a good thing. I have insomnia because I cannot shut my brain off. Your knowledge and delivery of that knowledge gets my attention so much it allows me to focus on you and lets my brain shut down to finally get sleep. By the time your episode is done I have learned alot and get to sleep sometimes 3 hrs earlier than normal.
Wish you'd do an episode or two on WWII Amphibious ships. Small, ugly and not very glamorous, but very important workhorses.
Regarding RN ship names, the Temeraire was not the only name reused from a captured ship. The RN at Trafalgar also had an HMS Neptune, named for a captured ship. Interestingly the French also had a "Neptune" that replaced the captured ship, and the Spanish had a "Neptuno." Sadly they did not meet for a party during the battle!
It's not just rubbing it in the enemies face, its tradition and the RNs been one of the more conservative navies of the world, so it stands that simply integrating and then maintaining a name would be what they'd do.
Compare it to the breakdown in tradition in the USN where names are all over the place and they're now getting a carrier built named after someone who, tradition states, should have a destroyer named after them.
The mile stone of the week is pasted.
Back to work tomorrow..oh sweet torture you cause us Drach!
The problem with newer, faster, battleships is that the whole concept of the battle line depends on the boats all having (using) roughly the same speed, so the advantages of a faster one, by say 10 knots, would have been wasted until there was much larger fleet of them that could all truck along at the higher speed.
I have come back from the future to tell you Drach has just released The Drydock Episode 6000
30:10 I wonder where that bust of Sparta's Leonidas wound up I see about 2" up and 1" left of centre.
24:00, what is this strange assumption that you would need a license
Similar conditions to the sailing of the Russian fleet to the Pacific, there were no Japaneese torpedo boats.
another way to stop corrosion at sea is to coat the metal with Vaseline. It is however VERY important to remove it from your hands because otherwise the hand rails on ladders can become coated. Don't know if deliberate or not but on HMAS Swan went down a ladder were one handrail was coated with alarming results.
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The Sky-Diver from UFO was a lot cooler than Seadart
Was the HMS Incomparable a practical design? Did UK armouries could they have built a 20" gun?
The idea for the Seadart was a part of the Seaplane Striking Force plan. They wanted to strike against Russia, or other cold war combatants. But they felt that Carriers are vulnerable. The idea is to have a small force that's easy to disperse. Can hide in harbours, and islands. The Sea Dart would escort/defend the Sea Master Bomber/Minelayers. They would be served by flying boat transports (Marlins/Tradewinds). They could be also serviced by Tenders, or even Submarines. Good idea, and inexpensive compared to building carriers. But the technology wasn't really ready.