The Brazen Bull: History's Most Awful Punishment



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40 thoughts on “The Brazen Bull: History's Most Awful Punishment”

  1. We need to make the Brazen Bavarian; a giant brass hollow statue of a fat and happy beer swigging Bavarian in October fest garb and the pipes turn the inmate's screams of agony into happy mountain yodeling.

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  2. These victims still seem to have had a better time at a party than me at my former company's Christmas dinner party, where i had to sit in front of my "about to become ex-boss" and next to his very boring wife without a single drop of alcohol…

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  3. People who come up with sickening shit like this shouldn't be surprised to find themselves subjected to it themselves sooner or later. I didn't know it was true in this case and that its creator was the first victim.

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  4. I'd say that scaphism that the ancient Persians used would have to be the worst I've ever heard, even worse than slow cutting the Chinese used even up to the early 20th Century.

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  5. Reading the comments, of even more horrific and barbaric ways of killing people, I'm not sure I'm even part of the human species. I must be an alien. My whole body crawls, my blood runs cold then hot, a million emotions flood through me, just reading about this. The "humane hoax" of animal agriculture distresses, sickens and disgusts me, let alone these savage, deliberate acts of prolonging suffering as long as possible:(

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  6. As horrible as this is, and, to be clear, as not serious as is possible to get, I wonder what the Violent Crimes Rate would be in America if this punishment would be administered today to the most fowl of criminals…

    The deterrence effect of harsh prison sentences is obviously a failure, seeing as how perpetrators feel like they've got nothing to lose as soon as they commit any serious crime… Spending your life in a relatively comfortable place (imprisonment is still torture) is NOT a good form of prevention.

    A focus on Rehabilitation instead of Punishment, removing Weapons of War from the hands of every civilian and a strong education system is definitely the appropriate course for a society, but from a Sociological & Criminological point of view, I just wonder what would be the effect of the polar opposite, of the most extreme form of deterrance possible if sentences such as the Brazen Bull were administered to Murderers, Pedøph¡les & R@pists.

    I know that it would make for a much worse result than going the Civilized Way, as not only these sentences would be incredibly harsh to say the least, but the more insidious & pervert effect on society would be in diminishing the value of a human life. In history, the least a life had value, the more Cruel, Warmonging & Degenerate a Society got. With less value given to life, horrible behavior becomes acceptable, bringing back Slavery first, and many more horrors with it.

    All we can do is study the Past Cultures and speculate on what effects bringing back such a punishment would cause… We obviously can't ever (re)create the conditions in real life to study the results, and any really accurate (Computer) Simulation would need to be so elaborate that it would be far past the point where the simulated individuals would have a sense of agency and be able to feel something analogous to Pain in reaction to negative stimuli, and that would immediately make any such Simulation utterly Unethical. So all we can do is wonder, and hope that any scenario even remotely similar to this never comes to be again…

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  7. The only difference between now and back then are that punishments are much more lenient. But when it comes to torture, we still think about wanting to put certain people in punishments who deserve it. Whether be it serial killers, rapists, pedophiles, dictators, cannibals, school shooters, etc. Everytime these monsters get a light sentence we are dissatisfied and want them to suffer as much as their victims suffered

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  8. We should reintroduce the bull for politicians to keep them honest, if they refuse to be honest then force them into the bull but don't light it and if they betray the people they are supposed to serve light the fires and let them burn

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  9. Maggie Furey novel 'The Sword of Flame', book 3 of The Artefacts of Power series, has a scene that could only be inspired by this bull.
    One of the drawbacks of a well crafted novel is that you can't close your eyes until the disturbing bit is over.

    (Edit: correcting autocorrect)

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