The Beatles Red & Blue 2023 Edition – Our Thoughts



We discuss The Beatles Red & Blue 2023 Editions…and yes, we will discuss I Am The Walrus.

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  1. John Lennon was quoted on The Blue Album 1973 mix saying they turned Revolution into a piece of ice cream and after this new 2023 mix I think he would feel the same way. I don’t think it’s bad but I don’t think it beat out the mono 45 even with this effort.

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  2. Great job, guys! Ive ordered them but haven’t yet received them . I know you didn’t go track by track but was wondering your thoughts on the mixes of the very early Beatles, ie, You Can’t Do That, I Wanna Hold Your Hand, I Feel Fine, I Saw Her Standing There, etc

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  3. I look at this remix of I Am the Walrus the same way I think of I Want You (She's So Heavy). On the latter, the white noise eventually overpowers the music, and it was done deliberately. That was something John wanted. He remarked that Paul must have thought it was Revolution #9 all over again. I think Giles Martin went for the same effect on I Am the Walrus. Disappointed with Old Brown Shoe. Where's George's guitar? The mixes of All You Need Is Love and Hey Bulldog from the Yellow Submarine Soundtrack are superior to what's on the new Blue album. As for the Red album, where is Rain?

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  4. Only dissapointed about the muddy and distorted sounding vocals of She Loves You that were already much clearer in the 2015 1 mono mix. The squeaking door sound in Yesterday also made a comeback that was also already removed in the 2015 1 mix.

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  5. I think that overall it was a great job. Among the highlights new mixes : I saw her standing there, From me to you, Yesterday, Day tripper, Magical mistery tour, Girl, The fool on the hill, ..
    The low moments : She loves you ( muddy, lifeless, treble sound arecgone) . This is really clear when i listen it after From me to you (songtrack order) , Old brown shoe(weird mix, bass over mixed, George's voice too lox…) and I am the walrus ( horrible mix, from the bridge it becomes in mono and they destroyed the ending)

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  6. On A Limited Budget – Red Or Blue For Now.

    For those of you who want to pick up both Red or Blue albums in CD or Vinyl format but a limited budget means you have you cannot purchase both at once here is something to consider in choosing the first purchased. As for myself I am going with Red because out of the 38 songs on it, 30 of them are 2023 remixes. The rest are the 2022 Remix from the Revolver album that is on this collection. The Blue album has only 5 2023 remixes. The rest are remixed selections from the more recent anniversaries reissues of their albums. If you do not own any of the anniversaries reissues and like their later period music more than the earlier years then you might want to go with blue. If you do have those reissues albums as I do then Red is the bigger gang for the buck for more recent remixes. I hope this has been helpful. Cheers everyone. 🙂

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  7. Still have the Red 1963-1966 copy I bought at Woolworth on Warwick Blvd. in Newport News VA in 1973. I only had money for the one at that time. Why I picked the Red one, I don’t remember. I had already had the "Hey Jude" and "Magical Mystery Tour" albums at that time. So I had a lot of the the songs on the Blue one already. It must’ve been an economic decision.
    Since I have them already, as well as, red vinyl Japanese pressing, and a German blue vinyl pressing, I haven’t decided if I want the vinyl on this. Perhaps the CDs.

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  8. I wish I was born 10 years earlier to be able to experience music (& life!) in the 60s as a kid,to be able to listen to The Beatles as they progressing, and 70s as teen with the disco stuff!

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  9. Great hearing your thoughts. Overall I'm loving the new mixes, BUT I had gotten so accustomed to the 2015 stereo remixes (from 1/1+) that a few tracks actually felt jarringly drum and bass heavy this time around, stuff like "Help!", "Day Tripper" and "We Can Work It Out". I think they will grow on me with time though! The 2015 mixes feel more "v-shaped".

    Think I'll compare three versions of Walrus on streaming: 2009 stereo, 2023 stereo and 2023 Atmos (Even if your device can't play back proper Atmos I think they may actually play with a bit more dynamic range? At least according to Parlogram. Should be interesting either way though).

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  10. I’m just, now, watching the video, here, jumping between the chat on the iPad and playing the tracks being mentioned on the phone (have already blasted it out at home). Totally diggin’ the remix work. I expected an interesting and new stereo balance, was not prepared for being able to hear the musicianship so clearly. Great stuff. One thing I wanted to point out, if it wasn’t already, that the James Bond intro at the start of Help, was only included on the American release, originally, not the UK versions. That’s for both the Red album and the Help lp. Cheers, all.

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  11. Meet The Beatles was my first…. than the White Album…1967-1970… were my first Beatles….. My Dad said the same….Big Band Music and Sinatra was his music 🎵🎶….i believe he was pulling everyones leg!!!

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  12. CORRECTION: "I Am The Walrus" was remixed before – on the "Love" record. Do yourself a favor and listen to it with headphones. It is faithful to the original, but is greatly enhanced. IMHO, it is so much better than the Blue version. Also, regarding "Hey Bulldog", check out the updated "Yellow Submarine" Soundtrack version. As a matter of fact, that soundtrack has got great versions of a lot of the tunes.

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  13. The Red & Blue albums were how I first heard their music in 1981 then 1982, but was only after John Lennon’s death. I only heard “Ain’t She Sweet”, the summer before and that was off a Polydor album that had the Tony Sheridan and the Beat Brothers tracks on it. Listening to these remixed sets, I was totally blown away. It was as if I never heard their music before!

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  14. Thanks again Robert and TJR. In general, I love the Giles Martin reissues (especially Let It Be and Abbey Road) but sometimes I don't (Revolver and The White Album). In this case most of the older remixes are a revelation that is intriguing to listen to. Especially the Rubber Soul, Help and A Hard Days Night material, really shines. I think most Beatles fans are now even more looking out for the upcoming reissues of older albums. I also wonder if this kind of new technology will play a part in the Mind Games box set, that is said be released in june 2024. Can it for instance better the highly praised 2002 Mind Games remix? At first, the new I'm The Walrus remix was a shock and I didn't like it. But the more I listen to it, each time it's getting better. From the blue album, the Magical Mystery Tour stands out for me, besides the Pepper, Let It Be and Abbey road songs. I still highly prefer the 2009 stereo White album remaster. Maybe it has to do with the fact that the White album mono mix is not for everyone and the Giles Martin remix is more based on that format then the original stereo version. That is kind of the red line I guess: if you like the mono mix of a certain album, the chance is there that like the Giles Martin versions, because the balance is somehow going to the mono side, instead of stereo. Some people claim that Abbey Road did not need a remix at all. I disagree: listen to songs like Oh Darling and Maxwell Silver Hammer and you'll hear that those songs are brought to another level. To this day, I still think that Abbey Road is the biggest improvement. It's hard to improve an allready good sounding record to a mindblowing level. Giles Martin did this. I personally can't wait what he and Peter Jackson are up to, because they obviously handle the Beatles legacy in the best way possible. And if someone does not love as much as I do, there are still the older remasters and Yellow Submarine Songtrack. We can choose and pick what we want (to hear). ~Marjet

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  15. I love your reviews and comments and can't wait for the other albums to be remixed. But I'm getting nervous that with the box sets we're looking forward to will we also get the singles as they have now been included on these albums?

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  16. I have to admit, I did not like the remix of "I Am The Walrus". After repeated listens, however, I've come to appreciate it more and more. Then I did something I never do – I listened to it through headphones………..and IT BLEW ME AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Absolutely amazing new mix!!!!!!

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  17. I'm extremely disappointed in the 2023 remix of Revolution. I saw the Vegas Cirque show Love in 2019 and was blown away by the sound… bought the CD and Revolution was…well, revolutionary! The 2 distorted guitars were seperated left-right – 2 disticnt parts!!! The Beatles presented as a modern day rock band! WHY did Giles Martin revert to the fake stereo that John Lennon himself hated???? I have never seen a band set-up live with the drums on one side of the stage and 2 guitars plugged into one amp on the other side. Ridiculous!!! I am SO disappointed – I've been scouring reviews to see if this was done on the other new mixes…noone else seems to care!?!?!?!? I don't think I'm going to buy these as a result…

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  18. !!! NO MORE DEMIXING FOR PSEUDO-REMIXING – demixing means still second or third generation tapes and computer tricks – IT"S NOT SOUND FROM FIRST GENERATION TAPES !!! – Please Please Me sessions on bootlegs still sound much better.
    Why nobody asks Steven Wilson to do it ? There are good remixes of a lot of albums – and I like the idea of remixing from original first generation tapes without too much other unnecessary job / corrections – like Steven Wilson does it. Why don't they talk to Mark Lewisohn ? – or do they ? How easy can sb may make sb else a fool – too many reviewers I'm afraid repeat the narration from the production team – is it wise ?
    Examples :
    I AM THE WALRUS '23 – couldn't the remixing staff try to find the original King Lear recording in the BBC vaults ?
    REVOLVER – maybe I am wrong here – but – is it really true that they need to use computer programs to do a good job to make better separation of instruments, voices – demixing for remixing (!?) – as far as I remember f.e. from M Lewisohn's book – still exist the first generation tapes and takes that were used for "bouncing" to another tape with reduction of tracks to mono or stereo (this way engeneers were able to use two or more tracks on a new tape) – so there are kind of two masters – one original attempt, master take, and the tape onto which it was copied – I guess we don't need super duper pseudo-modern sound ! – what we need is the best possible SOUND FROM THE FIRST GENERATION TAPES, even if some instruments, voices are on one track – who cares ? However – I see that the idea of putting the evolution of songs somehow is now applied on this new box coming – I wrote about it in my comments before. Demixing squeezed sounds from one track DOES NOT bring us to first generation tapes / sounds ! Also – there is no feeling of a band together now in my opinion. Where are the clear drums now from Got To Get You Into My Life ? And Taxman – the version on one of the session discs has background vocals in both channels, panned between speakers (like done on Yellow Submarine new mixes) – beautiful – so why not on the new mix of this song opening the album ? Couldn't they remake-remix TNKnows into a kind of mantra lasting f.e. 7 or maybe even 9 minutes ?
    The WHITE ALBUM 50th Anniversary is wrong in many places, maybe apart from the two original discs remixed – only when I consider the much better sound, natural, but also with mixed emotions – Birthday remix with voices now compressed to the centre – the fun was in the voices on the sides, in the speakers. It is cheating fans and drawing money from our pockets – there should be an additional disc (nr3) including final remixex/mixes of Hey Jude, Inner Light, Not Guilty, What's the New Mary Jane, Lady Madonna, Revolution (single ver), full fast version of Helter Skelter leading to Ringo's shouting "I have blisters on my fingers," also could probably include You Know My Name since recording sessions span 1967 – 69, also Hey Bulldog (recorded with Lady Madonna) – like on Sgt. Pepper's 50th – there are final mixes of Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane, the session discs could include two/three versions of Sexy Sadie, Not Guilty, and others, showing evolution of the songs, and not the same as on the Anthology series (including the same versions as on Anthology is really not fair), also are we interested in instrumental versions ? – NOT in J. Lennon's voice ? And why Not Guilty is repeated from Anthology without a proper final remix – it still sounds as a session – the modern technology allows to create a final mix out of fragments, snippets, in case of Not Guilty there are around 100 takes, many probably false-starts, abandoned, also in different keys – but it needs some time and working on it. The next time they return to White Album will be in around 20 years – me dead.
    Sgt. PEPPER 2017 remix – for me it's a crime to have sped up She's Leaving Home, and also – the whole colour and magic is gone with the band and other instruments squeezed to the centre now – "stereo based on mono" as they say – lunatics at the consoles !
    ABBEY ROAD – sounds great BUT why Ringo has soooo long hands now ? – my speakers are circa 2.5 metres apart, so I hear drums on the right in Come Together, and suddenly the snare is now in the centre – again – insanity. Why do bootlegers have access to better stuff ? – You Never Give Me Your Money (very long version with improvisation, poor quality, but interesting (probably take 30)). Why have we lost chance to have better quality "Because" vocals only version. Why there aren't masters without strings like f.e. "Something" – would be really interesting.
    TAKE THIS GUY GILES MARTIN AWAY FROM IT ! – the only professional at remixing classic albums who I really respect is Steven Wilson these days – he has done GentleGiant, JethroTull, Yes, KingCrimson, Marillion, TangerineDream – well done, good job.
    I doubt if there will ever be a better sounding RUBBER SOUL album compared to the George Martin's 2009 remix.
    ENOUGH OF THIS SHIT MADE AND TOLD BY GILES M.
    But I buy and listen to the products – what else can I do ?

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  19. The Red Album is very impressive. The only dud on it is "Eight Days A Week", the song really lost its punch. I would have swapped out Roll Over Beethoven and You Really Got A Hold On Me with I Wanna Be Your Man and possibly Baby's In Black or I'll Follow The Sun. The omission of Rain was perplexing as well ( I would have swapped I'm Only Sleeping with Rain)

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  20. The Yellow Submarine LP has a different version ( intro) of All You Need is Love. There is a studio version of " Nothings Gonna Change My World originally avail on a Various Artists LP ( later on Past Masters CD) why can't these be included? I have all the Beatles LPs and singles so in 1973 I felt I didn't need the Red and Blue album. ( hey- they have a red, white and blue album!!)

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