Thanks for doing this for us. It's not easy to find someone who's willing to test the aluminum rounds as they're not as popular I guess. How well do you think they'd fire out of a Byrna SD, or would recommend not using them in one. I ask because I did some target shooting at 15ft on some empty Gatorade bottles and an empty water jug using the Kinetic rounds with a new CO2, and my Byrna SD barely made a dent on the water jug and didn't do anything at all to the Gatorade bottles. If it's firing at 300fps(200+mph), it should do more than just slightly dent a water jug I'd think. Unfortunately rubber rounds have less then optimal hance of jamming from what I've read over the past few months Was looking at the LTL Alfa 1.50 launcher that's made in Italy. It's a .50 launcher that fires 500fps and is 18J out of the box.
Quick question Uncle Redzone! Have you tried these aluminum or steel rounds in a Byrna SD yet?? Mine is about to arrive in the mail, so I’m wondering if they can work in it. I only have the nylon and pepper rounds right now.
Now I’m not saying that I’m GOING to be using those in my Byrna for self defense lol, (I listened to your video), I’ll use them only to practice with, but I’m just asking if you’ve used them in the Byrna launcher yet, meaning like, are the hand launchers STRONG enough to handle steel ammo, and still shoot at a fast speed and do damage, OR if steel ammo can only work in the Mission 4, because it’s more powerful than the Byrna SD. Thank you 🙏🏾✊🏽👑
Bro just think….you were out shooting while another UFO was floating over lake huron….i know you stated you were in Detroit…the Pentagon prolly flew an f16 over you to shoot it down
Great content… FYI, you can turn up your volicity for more power. It's located on the left side of the byrna , aluminum hex screw , turn it counterclockwise. Keep up the great content.
Hey Redzone, Since day 1 of getting my Byrna, I have used nothing but the aluminum rounds in my SD and SD XL from Canada Riot Balls. I stagger the rounds from aluminum to pepper balls then aluminum again. This so that the first shot throws the assailant off. The second shot is chemicals to incapacitate the assailant. It also prevents the chemical rounds from being stacked against each other to prevent rupture.
In terms of legality, these weapons should be only used in a self defense situation. My life or the life of my loved one is at risk. If I’m using this weapon in this manner, it doesn’t matter how lethal the round is because I’m justified in defense of my life or the life of a loved one. I think in manner because if I had a lethal firearm, the only time I would draw my firearm is when my life depended upon it. Too many people like to draw their weapon as a form of intimidation and this is what leads to unjustified legality defenses.
Lastly, I have not only the Byrna SD, but I also have the S&W MP9, the PPQ, and most recently the Glock 17 gen 5. My EDC preference is the PPQ. But my concern is the size of the chemical rounds. There are tons of videos that show what a .68 caliber chemical round can do to an assailant. But very few videos show what a .43 caliber round can do to an assailant. I’m not 100% confident that a.43 caliber chemical round is as effective as a .68 caliber chemical round.
Lastly, I just traded my SD XL for the Glock 17 gen 5. This is in part because I desire to have the new LE version. But, as previously mentioned, I cannot see the reason to do so if I rely upon chemicals more so than the kinetics. I’m waiting to see what others have to say first.
Those really pack a punch. I appreciate the disclaimer too about Less Lethal launcher/ammo applications and the consequences. It's always a risk assessment with any self defense tool, requiring a sound mind to make sure you are being defensive.
Amazing!!! Thank you for the video!
Thanks for doing this for us. It's not easy to find someone who's willing to test the aluminum rounds as they're not as popular I guess. How well do you think they'd fire out of a Byrna SD, or would recommend not using them in one. I ask because I did some target shooting at 15ft on some empty Gatorade bottles and an empty water jug using the Kinetic rounds with a new CO2, and my Byrna SD barely made a dent on the water jug and didn't do anything at all to the Gatorade bottles. If it's firing at 300fps(200+mph), it should do more than just slightly dent a water jug I'd think. Unfortunately rubber rounds have less then optimal hance of jamming from what I've read over the past few months
Was looking at the LTL Alfa 1.50 launcher that's made in Italy. It's a .50 launcher that fires 500fps and is 18J out of the box.
A shot of aluminum to the face will deter someone … a shot to eye , temple , or throat will kill them
Thks for video, Red, I'm waiting on my Byrna LE to get in. Will do test and chron once its in . Peace and blessings!
hey where can i get that single tippmann mag you were using? great vid as always. peace
Another AWESOME video pard , Thank you
Quick question Uncle Redzone!
Have you tried these aluminum or steel rounds in a Byrna SD yet??
Mine is about to arrive in the mail, so I’m wondering if they can work in it. I only have the nylon and pepper rounds right now.
Now I’m not saying that I’m GOING to be using those in my Byrna for self defense lol, (I listened to your video), I’ll use them only to practice with, but I’m just asking if you’ve used them in the Byrna launcher yet, meaning like, are the hand launchers STRONG enough to handle steel ammo, and still shoot at a fast speed and do damage, OR if steel ammo can only work in the Mission 4, because it’s more powerful than the Byrna SD. Thank you 🙏🏾✊🏽👑
Bro just think….you were out shooting while another UFO was floating over lake huron….i know you stated you were in Detroit…the Pentagon prolly flew an f16 over you to shoot it down
Great content… FYI, you can turn up your volicity for more power.
It's located on the left side of the byrna , aluminum hex screw , turn it counterclockwise.
Keep up the great content.
Oh well I well put the metal 10 and 6 konitoc
And if you don't stop by or 6 you will get shot by a aluminum that's fair enough
Hey Redzone, Since day 1 of getting my Byrna, I have used nothing but the aluminum rounds in my SD and SD XL from Canada Riot Balls. I stagger the rounds from aluminum to pepper balls then aluminum again. This so that the first shot throws the assailant off. The second shot is chemicals to incapacitate the assailant. It also prevents the chemical rounds from being stacked against each other to prevent rupture.
In terms of legality, these weapons should be only used in a self defense situation. My life or the life of my loved one is at risk. If I’m using this weapon in this manner, it doesn’t matter how lethal the round is because I’m justified in defense of my life or the life of a loved one. I think in manner because if I had a lethal firearm, the only time I would draw my firearm is when my life depended upon it. Too many people like to draw their weapon as a form of intimidation and this is what leads to unjustified legality defenses.
Lastly, I have not only the Byrna SD, but I also have the S&W MP9, the PPQ, and most recently the Glock 17 gen 5. My EDC preference is the PPQ. But my concern is the size of the chemical rounds. There are tons of videos that show what a .68 caliber chemical round can do to an assailant. But very few videos show what a .43 caliber round can do to an assailant. I’m not 100% confident that a.43 caliber chemical round is as effective as a .68 caliber chemical round.
Lastly, I just traded my SD XL for the Glock 17 gen 5. This is in part because I desire to have the new LE version. But, as previously mentioned, I cannot see the reason to do so if I rely upon chemicals more so than the kinetics. I’m waiting to see what others have to say first.
Good video.
Those really pack a punch. I appreciate the disclaimer too about Less Lethal launcher/ammo applications and the consequences. It's always a risk assessment with any self defense tool, requiring a sound mind to make sure you are being defensive.
@redzone where do you buy the aluminum balls? Any links to provide. Excellent material here!
Good test! I’m willing to bet that a chest/sternum shot would make an intruder reconsider his/her life choices.