Tesla to $10k in 2030; Answering Gary Black; Why Tesla Down; The Bond Problem



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45 thoughts on “Tesla to $10k in 2030; Answering Gary Black; Why Tesla Down; The Bond Problem”

  1. I agree with Larry, a rocky year. Iโ€™ve partially quit my โ€œfour year ride.โ€ As you say, never look back on a profit. 2025 maybe a year for tradingโ€ฆI hope Iโ€™m wrongโ€ฆโค have a happy new year!

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  2. Herbert of "Brighter with Herbert" had an interesting theory on the January 2, 2025 delivery numbers affecting Tesla stock price. He said that if deliveries were 515k then the stock price would be 515 and asked if that was too optimistic.

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  3. Ramping up Optimus will become a huge priority for Tesla once they start proving to the world what profit per bit per year they can earn and the the demand at each factory that knows they want them will be huge. Factories not cutting their costs due to deployment of humanoid robots will go out of business at an alarming rate signaling to all other factories to order more Optimus robots to keep up. More demand feeds more demand quickly when the benefits are made obvious and the penalty for not having them will also be obvious. Making both of those obvious to everyone world wide shouldnโ€™t take very long at all. 2027 will be a huge take off year for massive volume ramp up of humanoids using the profits from autonomous ride hail to fuel exponential humanoid factory growthโ€ฆ

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  4. I'm convinced Gary is strategically opposed to performing any homework for any business he believes cannot generate significant revenue SOON for him to immediately recover the time and cost of his effort. He's too smart and educated and experienced to keep getting caught like this. There is some aspect of his business that discourages him from 'wasting' time with 'unnecessary' research.

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  5. Larry hit it right on the nail, 2025 is going to be a very rough year for the market, don't be surprised if Tesla drops to under $200 again… 2026 will be the year when we see gains across the market and into the future… You have to remember, that nothing has changed for Tesla other than Elon and Trump becoming buddies, this euphoric Tesla run is going to crash because there hasn't been anything of "Real" material to justify these prices (Yet)… $10k would be amazing, but the reality is we'll be lucky to see $1,500k by 2030. However, 2040 is another story and you can expect it to easily hit $10k and possible $40k if Robo Taxi, Tesla-Bots and Semi's take off… Tesla traders need to sell off their stuck and wait for the major correction over the course of 2025 and then go all in at the tail end of 2025 and ride this until the next election…

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  6. I was very confused with Larry's comments about China going from 17 bots to 2 bots per human worker. To me, he seems to have accidentally flipped those number around… or am I missing something?

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  7. As far as the military branches buying semiโ€™s.:
    Those branches can not make gasoline in the field, but you can make electricity through solar & wind. With advances of more efficient solar panels will eventually give them unlimited power on demand.

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  8. not good if youre renting and landlord been nice for few years. if u just bought and your mortgage went up 50% its also painful. debts are getting kicked down the road. delaying return will only be good for rich to buy up all the assets. which i always assume will happen. so that is why they are keeping rates up. put squeeze on remaining middle class.

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  9. Just a thought…maybe time to ignore Gary? He does not represent institutions. He has no skin in the game. His analysis is a joke. The only reason he is relevant because you all keep citing him. Maybe stop.

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  10. Refreshing exercise to discuss the downside. Too many of the perma bulls just ignore it. Looking forward to Larry finally stepping up with meaningful data. Til now, heโ€™s been the non-expert just saying the obvious stuff.

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  11. Randy doesn't understand the difference between a failing economy and a crack up boom. Venezuela's stock market zoomed right before their monetary collapse. Same with Germany's DAX. Happens every time. If Elon makes the cuts, fires staff, etc. like they hope to do, GDP will plummet and we will be in recession or worse. We are in a no-win situation. The only way to come out of it is with extreme growth but that will take a lot of time. In other words, things will get much worse before they start getting better.

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