Another “Line that Never Was,” or three.
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Another “Line that Never Was,” or three.
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Not directly relevant to the video I know, but looking at the shots of Richmond Station, I was thinking what a great example of Art Deco it is. I presume that it is listed. Shame though that it is in poor condition and could really do with the top section being cleaned or even fresh white paint to bring it back to its former glory.
all I can add to this "what if's" conversation, is at 1.12, he shot of Ealing Broadway station, no I was'nt the ticket man, slight nod to the mighty Ian Dury song "What a waste" and the was Fulham Broadway.. See the block on the far right of the screen ? Next to that and out of shot, is where I used to live in Madeley Road. When I was a very young kid early 60's, I used to stand on a box at the end of the garden and watch the steam trains go by. I can also remember Haven Green, just near to the station being covered in deep snow, so that must have been the winter of 1962 / 63
If I understand the question, as the only line into London ( the district ) from Richmond only runs along the river and therefore skirts central London, would a line directly into central London be worthwhile. ?There appears to be only three stations on the Richmond branch, as soon a the branch joins the main district line there is an interchange station with the Piccadilly line which does go to central London. So unless there is evidence of overcrowding on the Richmond branch perhaps resources should be allocated elsewhere.
FASCINATIN !! (no irony)
Another facinating video Jago and interesting alongside yours on the CLR's "circle line". I'm intrigued by the railways that almost were around Shepherds Bush as the GWR's original intenton was to build its own terminus just to the west of the CLR's with a subway connection (they'd even identified a site for it) and operate it with suburban trains via Ealing Broadway with the CLR providing a connection at Shepherds Bush to the West End and the City at Bank. I think it was after the CLR's first plan to turn south from Shepherds Bush was abandoned that the two companies agreed that making the connnection at Ealing by giving the CLR running powers over its Ealing & Shepherd's Bush Railway would be a better bet for connecting the GWR to the West End. That is of course what eventually happened, though not until 1920, with a Central Line platform inserteed between the GWR station at Ealing Broadway and the then separate District Railway terminus.
So the grove is the northern end of Hammersmith grove 100 yards from Goldhawk Road station ,paddingswick road seven stars corner then along under Stamford Brook road /bath road then Turnham Green then connect up with the district would still be useful ,if an interchange was made with Chiswick Park too
Great video Jago as always. As a Chiswick residence who faces up to an hour long commute to the City I say curse you Kaiser. Plus the Piccadilly line extension of 1920 that never was. And the Piccadilly line still doesn't stop for most of the day at Turnham Green.
The Germans have a lot to answer for, London Underground wise.
Oh Jago. You are taking me back on journeys from London when I was in my youth. I love it so much buddy.
Much as I like the idea of lines being extended to wherever, I think Richmond is already well served by the District line and SWR National Rail. I have just checked with a tube map and found that it also has the Overground, which I hadn't appreciated.
I was today years old when I discovered this channel… Obsessed.
Could you please do a video on the Class 210 DEMU please
Ah! The genius of private enterprise!
Very interesting jago this is one scheme that was new to me. You are very good in your researching. There is one further point that you didn't mention but does occur on lines shared between surface and tube stock namely the different platform heights had some of these schemes materialised.
It's gose to show any property postcode that comes under a London roundel will always be double that than one that don't..
I'm sure the district line was due to Kingston from Wimbledon to Richmond???
Did they ever find any interesting historical items when digging tunnels?
I find it interesting that the Underground seriously considered inter-lining the District and Central lines for miles through the S.W. London suburbs. Today's operators are much more reluctant to do that, knowing how a late train on one service is likely to delay trains on more lines than just the one. I suspect the District would have been cut way back if the Central had reached Richmond.
Another cracking video Jago
If when one door closes another opens. . . your train is faulty.
As a Central fan, i would love to see more lines being red on the map….another great story, Jago, even if you made it a Yerkes free zone!
So many rail projects in the early days were put on hold cos of the Wars and then ultimately never happened.
On a purely personal level, I would certainly use a Central Line service to Richmond, it would allow me to avoid having to use Waterloo for destinations I want to reach South West of London.
Richmond, an extremely busy commuter station and interchange with the District and South Western Railway, would also benefit with extra capacity to central London.
That busy road crossover from one station to another station at Hammersmith to get to Richmond is a real pain. Especially in bad weather.
Were electric trains a huge draw at first because of less noise? Less soot? Something else? Was it mostly just the novelty?
Honestly, it would be better if all the SWR Suburban Lines where linked to Central London (& beyond) by Crossrail 2 instead. Even if it means having an 8-Track Core Section…
Would love to see the central line go to Richmond
Love these, the voice is like honey on a sore throat.
All of your videos are interesting, Mr H, but especially so. It has all the hallmarks of a spiffing wheeze, requiring only the intervention of that Jerkes chappie to make it complete. Thanks. Simon T
I think the Central Line extension to Richmond could have come very handy and useful.
Imagine if the Central Line being circular with the Piccadilly Line and the extension to Richmond had gone ahead. It would have been interesting.