What were Ten Hag’s tactics?
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What did you make of both of their tactics?
Good stuff. For a full tactical breakdown of Ten Hag's approach, check out premierleagueanalyzed – very thorough.
dope
2 problems with Arsenal :
1) Arteta got the wrong plan against a team that can score only on counter attack and who loves the high lines press to counter. Arsenal should have waited for united, maybe with a back 3. Utd would'nt have any plan against that. Martinelli and Saka would have been able to attack.
2) This lack of depth in Arsenal squad is already costing points. It's not even a question of quality subs, it's a question of number. Lokonga isn't half of Partey. And if he gets injured him also, arsenal have NO more DM left. They will need to play Odegaard as number 8 like last season, and will again drop points. Of all the top 6, the gunners have the smaller squad. You cannot challenge without substitutes in the PL, that's a simple equation.
At the intensity Arsenal are playing, where Odegaard runned 11km against Aston villa, this squad will crack down if Arteta does'nt manage well. They need to manage their energy until January, then buy midflielders and wingers, otherwise…even the top 4 isn't guarenteed. The level is there, but the number of players isn't.
Excellent in depth Analysis….carry on and the best of luck
And Arsenal also wasted several chance to score on 1st half
Bruno and Ericsson were enjoying too much of Arsenal midfield Thomas was a big miss you could tell their whole plan was to play counter football and break off from our poor lack of invested midfield
The premium farmers league js a boring league but this match was interesting considering it was a mkd table league club like manu and arsenal
You missed out that ten hag also had malacia marking odegard and so drastatically decreasing creativity from arsenal. Odegard is the pivot to Arsenal's attack, he always feeds saka or martinelli forward passes so that they can square the ball
Fickle, fickle Arsenal supporters. Don't see much support though for their players or manager. Last season he wasn't up for job after a few games this season he's god's gift after few games. Won't be long before they turn on manager & team led by idiots on Arsenal TV.
Was hoping to see the analysis of the second half from Utd
which xg model do you use?
What could arsenal have done to defend against united ?
Man utd controlled the game really well for the first 15mins
Got the goal eventually even though Arsenal tried to get back into the game
Arsenal then imposed themselves for the remaining part of the 1st half and carried on in the second half
They did manage to get the goal that they deserved in the second half
However, they were too naïve to overcommit players forward while defending poorly against a very good counter-attacking Man Utd team who were always ready to pounce
This cost them 2 goals which they are unable to recover from
So a very good tactical performance from EtH to earn them the points while it was naïve defending that cost Arteta the game
Maguire substitution was a heart attack
Great video
Arteta lacks experience. Yet, that will come. Ten Hag, lacks the experience of working in the Premier League, that will also come. As a Man Utd fan I see us progressing well in the next two seasons, as I do with Arsenal. Yet, will the managers be given the time? Whatever, we all hope with Klopp, Guardiola, Conte in the league as well, this might be a closer season. I am not forgetting Moyes, Potter who I think are exceptionally good. Will be fun.
Arsenal should be using 2 formations. 1 . When they are pressed, they should play 4-2-2-2 and when in possession, they should use 4-2-3-1. That is my opinion. I may be wrong
Wow now i can manu vs liverpool is title race wellcome just like old in league titiles lool like
Man united got lucky. If had Partey had played, it would have been a different story. We shall meet again, and we will put them in their place
Personally I had written Dallot off, but I feel like Dallot is playing A LOT better under Ten Hag. I suppose it's because he is getting a better objective and also the fact that he can actually trust his defensive colleagues now. I think his crosses and forward play have been really good so far, really looking forward to these wings; Dallot / Antony and Malacia / Sancho
ManU didn't beat Arsenal, manU got lucky. I totally enjoyed Arsenal play. As a neutral myself I can say be proud Arsenal fans, you won the match, ManU couldn't Play Arsenal
To be honest, not sure what Arteta was thinking. He was essentially playing a 4-2-4 (or 4 triple 2), disregarding Eriksen as the pivot. Lokonga and Xhaka were stuck on two midfielders, and the other would be free as the pivot. Getting Odegaard to push up to press the 2nd CB just gave space in the midfield as no one picks up the pivot. Arsenal were down numerically in the midfield.
Especially when Arsenal went a goal down, Arteta panicked. Taking off Zinchenko threw off the balance of the defense. At this point, calling him/his team a mini-Guardiola/City is kind of insulting to Guardiola. City tactically are much more composed than this. Even down, City stick to their guns, oftentimes they lose games this way (Real Madrid) as they don't create the chances they want, but its definitely a much more mature team than what Arteta is building.
I'm still hung up on why Arteta got Odegaard to press the CB. Assuming he doesn't press, the formation is a 4-3-3. If Odegaard pushes forward, Arsenal is down a player in midfield. With this in mind, Jesus should press a CB, while the midfielders mark United's midfield, which should force the CB wide. The entire team then shifts to win the ball on the flank. Of course, the demerits to this would be allowing the opposite flank space, but it's better than allowing United to play through the middle.
United's new style seems to mirror the Ajax of that one season. Extremely direct and progressive passes through the lines. In this game, the tactics won it. Arteta and Arsenal got it completely wrong in my opinion. Hell, even a mid block would've worked better.
Ur right man. Thats scarily the same as ajax does/did. Creating overloads on one side, and 1 v 1 and free man on the other.
United's biggest strength & weakness is Eriksen, if he's out injured, they dont have anyone to take on his role.
Football is more like chess.
A. you cannot press high without man marking in the mid field. Either the midfielders need to recognize the high press and mark open players or they mark the players then communicate to the forwards to press. It works no other way.
B. The lead center back needs to direct either/both defensive center mids to cut off passing lanes. This obviously did not happen thus adding to the MU players wide open up the field and the through balls happening..
Not many players get the opportunity to play for the famous Manchester United treble winners and in the footsteps of Duncan Edwards, Nobby Stiles, Bill Foukes, Roger Byrne, Denis Violett, Alex Stepney, Best, Law, Charlton, Coppull, McIlroy, Kanchelskis, Mark Hughes, Denis Irwin, Schmeichel, Robson, Cantona, Keane, vNistelrooy, Carrick, Edwin vSar, Evra, Vidic, Yorke, Cole, Neville's, Beckham, Giggs, Jaap Stam, Ferdinand, Ronaldo, Scholes, vPersie and Rooney.
Arsenal's problem is in transition. Zinchenko inverts when in possession and pushes Xhaka higher up, but if they lose the ball and the opponents counter, there's no one who can defend in the middle of the pitch (Zinchenko isn't good at this). Normally Partey does this but he's not there at the moment. This problem directly resulted in United's second goal.
Arteta needs to find a solution to this problem in transition. Otherwise they'll lose more games to counter attacking sides.
I love ur videos and analysis but why don't u show clips of the game instead of still images. Are u not allowed to?
8/10 nice plan
Arsenal were the better side. Just undone by missed chances. Don't Kam and tell us that ten hag defeated arteta tactically. Leave here
If you Let Erikson play his natural game freely, he'll cause destruction and chaos with his long passes and intersecting defensive and Midfield lines.
Brentford pressed Erikson and closed that channel to make him comfortable on the ball.
Arsenal wasn't taking Erikson seriously and that caused them this Game.
He had his part in each of the goal, just one long pass and your Attack and Midfield can't reshape themselves.
He's a Gem
Which Software do you use to analyze?
The Red was the offset Clearly arsenal was the better team…. WHEN MAN U COME BACK THE EMIRATE WE SHALL RETURN THE FAVOR… BUT THEN MAN U WILL HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE TOP SIX.. it's that simple… Quote me here
'xg was roughly similar'
-shows ManU having almost 50% more…
Wish I could do this kind of stuff on Football Manager
It’s Arsenal beat Arsenal
Quality Video
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Man utd got double lucky that's football. This arsenal team will be challenging
The tactic was to kick them and frustrate no other tactics. just kick them and wide them up the refs are protecting us.
Ten hag is tactical master, arteta needs to learn so much as a manager also he needs to change his tactics like after watching Liverpool game he should know that utd will play counter attacking game so he should not played with so high line, disappointed to see arsenal lose like this, congratulations utd you got a good manager finally
Open play XG was very close!
One of the mistakes that Arsenal made is that Odegaard is not a striker so the plan of having him and Jesus do the double pressing is stupid. They should have put Eddie N.Kettiah alongside G.Jesus. That makes more sense.
How the fuck is Arsenal fans saying they dominated us ffs we played like 20 passes before we scored our first goal
its nice to see such improvements in your videos going from screenshots to a digital touch screen for showcasing the tactics
If Arsenal were more brave they would have won the match.
VAR. Thats the true reason
Not forgetting the ref…