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Sunday True Villain Of Penacony? Keeping “Ena” Order Of The Dreamscape Explained – Honkai Star Rail 2.2 Lore & Theory
Yeah I kinda agree with the idea that Ena did it on purpose because
1. How would a control freak allow themselves to be taken over and
2. Why would the path of harmony and order collide at that moment? I feel like order and harmony were concepts from the jump similar to destruction. So why all of a sudden was there an overlap? I think Ena had something to do with it without a doubt
My personal theory (Currently) is that Robin is actually the main villain of Penacony, she is the mastermind who is trying to make "Sunday's master" to lose power over the place, and instead give the power back to the Watchmaker (No idea how she would relate with Enigmata lol). My only justification for this is that 1_A family sibling fight is one of the most exploted plots in fiction, Robin following Enigmata while Sunday is full harmony team would be interasting. 2_Her "death" is the main event of Penacony, Sunday reacts the way he does all because he belives his sister was killed by the meme and that she can't come back, which in turn made all the events in 2.1. 3_If she is working with Gallagher, then it would explain how he was able to perfectly enter the family without anyone noticing, it really was a attack from inside the family. I do belive my theory lacks some explanations, but I'm sticking to it for the moment.
I really thought it aswell, i feel like it was not the end with that whole thing of Ena getting absorbed, principally something that was seemingly so strong getting assimilated by a recently ascended aeon, in my opinion, i feel like ( voluntarily or not ) Sunday is getting used by Ena to took control over all the entities in Xipe and go back to power, i'm not sure about it but if i'm not mistaken ( correct me if i'm wrong guys ), Xipe is the union of a lot of entities, and that Ena wasn't absorbed necessarily because she was from a similar concept, but because Xipe wanted Ena to be the part of that collective mind against Ena's will ( and of course not being in control and be forced to be in equal in a collective system would be a true nightmare for something/someone like Ena, that's why i don't belive Ena did it willingly with some sort of greater plan ), but Ena saw the possibility of being even more powerful by taking control over Xipe and ruling over that much entities, i'm glad that i wasn't the only one who saw similarities with Sunday's boss fight and Ena, and about the paths and concept you said, in my opinion the aeons are the embodiment of that path but the paths doesn't depend on the aeons to exist, taking the knights of beauty, it may be a silly example but if it's true that can be a strong evidence, all the knights of beauty are very beautiful as it seems by now, on a way that feels pretty unnatural, Argenti for example, this can be debatable for some people, but he has some ungodly rizz and beauty for a mere pathstrider or a regular human that unknowingly follow or strenght a path, i don't believe he was born this way, or at least that he was born with the basics ( being ginger with green eyes ) but some sort of Idrila blessing upgraded his appearance by a thousand fold to be that way, this being said, i believe that regardless of the aeon being dead or not, it can still leave marks on it's path to it's followers to receive, like a blessing, and that can only change if someone/something else ascends as the new aeon of that path, that's possibly how there could still be followers or emanators from paths that it's aeons had already died, got assimilated, absorbed or anything like that, because aeons aren't the reason for a path to exist, they're simply beings, entities, animals, creatures, humanoids, humans, artificial things, etc, that due to the Honkai Star Rail universal laws of existance got on a very privileged place on that path as it's most avid embodiments until that time, and the emanators doesn't receive the power from the aeon itself, but the aeon only makes easier for an emanator to extract the path's imaginary power, like when you go to buy something at the market, the market isn't the producer of for example, a rice package you buy, they sell it to you, but the owner of that market didn't planted and took care of the rice, they're simply making easier for you to obtain the rice, as the owner of the market has the contact with the farm that plants the rice, but going back to another point that you mentioned, about Sunday being an emanator of Ena, i don't believe so, he doesn't give a vibe of an emanator, but i have no much reason to believe that he's not, just doesn't seems like truth to me, but i do believe that his race is blessed by Ena, you see, Sunday and Robin aren't humans, but humanoid creatures, they clearly have biological differences from humans like Himeko, Welt, March 7th ( probably ), although it's minimal it still there, and as we saw at the Xianzhou with the Vidryatra ( i think i typed it wrong, anyway, Dan Heng Embibidor Lunae race to make it easier ), they're not humans, look like them but have differences, and they received a blessing from an aeon that is no longer alive, the blessing of rebirthing and that blessings is given to them regardless if they follow the path of that aeon or not, that's why both Ena and Sunday have so many biblical references and similarities between each other, because his race was blessed by Ena, and if what i said is right, and Ena is in fact alive but somehow trapped inside Xipe, he somehow got inside the family, took the place as their leader, all in a plan to help the Aeon he's truly loyal to break free and rule over Xipe and Penacony, and nobody ever suspected because due to that absorption and Xipe's nature, in some way Ena is Xipe, but not totally so nobody could ever suspect or accuse him of conspiracy against Penacony and Xipe's cult, and now as the leader of the Family, anyone that discovers about his plans, are quickly silenced.
13.02 these are not Ravens but Nightingales. It was mentioned during the quest (the statues in Sunday's office) and the name of one of the families is Nightingale Family.
Order is often prominent in creating harmony Wouldn't be surprised if Order is orchestrating a ton of stuff to bring itself back Maybe the "real dreamscape" has something to do with that, like it's how it'll be brought back
Great analysis; you could be right about this. As for the path and Aeons, I believe from my understanding by reading the lores in-game; an individual walks on a path so far that they create that branch and make it prominent. At that moment, they also ascend to Aeonhood. If later on they disappear or absorbed or “die”, the Aeon is no more, but the path remains. (I believe Himeko also reiterates this.) That’s why it’s possible to still have followers on a path with no Aeon. Now if the person walks too far on a path following an already existing Aeon, they might become an Emanator either naturally, or directly blessed by the respective Aeon. I don’t know if anyone can still become an Emanator if the Aeon that belong on that path is already “dead”; this part is a bit of myth to me and I don’t recall any info on it. Would they become the Aeon themselves instead of Emanator? Or would they just be a fellow path follower?
I never trusted the family, but still dont understand why did robin ended like that also why the brother reacted like that. Maybe they are sacrifices ?🔥
I don’t think Ena would be relèvent to the story but t this point, plus we already know some things about Penacony and the Harmony :
1- There’s a lot of robotic being in Penacony (the monsters and even the Intellitrons, which resembles a lot the final boss). 2- It is said that the Harmony most likely has Emanators in the Harmonic Strings, which some are in relation with music and orchestras (the boss fight) => playing in Harmony.
In fact how the story has been managed since Robin’s drip marketing, makes me a lot perplexed. We know she will be alive (not the same case with Ting Yun who died after she was playable), so Sundays death was abnormal, AND for someone who can conjure Harmony, controls Ravens and is a Halovian, turning him into a puppeteer would be incoherent in my opinion.
Anyway, I think and I would love to see him unleash his power either for good or bad in the name of harmony as a mysterious Emanator rather than he controlling a big meca in 2.2 😂
There was also something welt said “Aeons can only operate according to their Primum Mobile. For example, we won’t ever have to worry about Harmony stirring up a storm”
I feel like Acheron wasn't really a part of Ena's plan, it wanted the House of Ifrit to come to the ball, which means Destruction and not Nihility. And with everything we've seen, I expect Acheron, and Aventurine because of 2.1, to be the reason why Ena can't win.
Also pointing out that a giant eyeball ushers us into the dreamscape and penacony is covered in televisions there’s a whole cctv room it’s almost like we are being watched by a greater entity
interesting thought, what if after assimilating Ena, Xipe tried to co-exist with her. Being in "Harmony" with each other. Ena perhaps lay low and goes along, presumably "dead" or "assimilated" and she may or may not have already told her followers about it.
Awesome theory! From a meta level, we suspect at some point of the story, TB will likely resonate with the Harmony. (Not sure why didn’t already happen with Hunt/Abundance, but maybe they are saving that for later.) Whenever this happens, what reason would we have to do so?
Preservation needed a true representative when one could not be found within its supposed followers. Cocolia the Architect had abandoned preserving her living people to “preserve” the planet in ice, and so we took up the Lance in her stead.
Perhaps Sunday and the family too have abandoned Harmony for Order, and we will eventually need to save Xipe from Ena to save Penecony.
Do you think aeons can be playable? Like if emanators are playable who are blessed by an aeon. It's not that they are concepts only, they have given characteristics and their own illustrations, that would be so cool.
Edit: Also, unlike Genshin, even after playing HSR for a long time, I don't seem to understand the end goal, like yea, we are going from planet to planet and resolving internal issues but what is the goal of the journey, to ascend to aeonhood or just hop onto one after another endlessly.
ena being present in penacony is not a sign of xipe being absent. they're now part of the harmony, since being assimilated by definition is not simply being gone. so i assume order has its place under the rule of xipe and sunday's boss fight's design has influence from both ena and xipe, from being a golden puppet to being a literal conductor (harmony is associated with music)
I was thinking the same thing when it cam to the theme of Penacony. Everything seems more closely related to Ena the order than Xipe. There is a theory that says that Xipe didn't absorbe Ena rather, they fused. This theory came from the concept during the 2.2 boss battle where the boss summons the aid of an entity. If you look at the hand it has the color schemes of Ena and Xipe combine.
I think the path of "Harmony" might be a fusion of both it and the order. If not than it's something else, but even if all the theories are wrong, there is no doubt that there is a lot of hints from desgins and the fact that Sunday's and Robin's species the Halovians share theme of the order especially their halos which Ena's "puppet" also has one too. Overall, the events near the end of the swarm disaster are very ancient and old and information that we have about the Aeons and what they have done throughout time could be now outdated or we don't have the full picture, not even Herta fully knows, this is when also ouroboros vanished.
Idk exactly how but can Ena Of Order be involved in Penacony!?
Xipe = Zib
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Him being the final boss doesn’t surprise me. What will is what will Robin do in all this.
I hope Sunday is a sneak peak of what Columbina will be like
I hope Gallagher actually becomes an interesting character and not just for shock culture
if he was, then its just like cocolia and thats stupid since its almost the same plot.
Yeah I kinda agree with the idea that Ena did it on purpose because
1. How would a control freak allow themselves to be taken over and
2. Why would the path of harmony and order collide at that moment? I feel like order and harmony were concepts from the jump similar to destruction. So why all of a sudden was there an overlap? I think Ena had something to do with it without a doubt
My personal theory (Currently) is that Robin is actually the main villain of Penacony, she is the mastermind who is trying to make "Sunday's master" to lose power over the place, and instead give the power back to the Watchmaker (No idea how she would relate with Enigmata lol).
My only justification for this is that
1_A family sibling fight is one of the most exploted plots in fiction, Robin following Enigmata while Sunday is full harmony team would be interasting.
2_Her "death" is the main event of Penacony, Sunday reacts the way he does all because he belives his sister was killed by the meme and that she can't come back, which in turn made all the events in 2.1.
3_If she is working with Gallagher, then it would explain how he was able to perfectly enter the family without anyone noticing, it really was a attack from inside the family.
I do belive my theory lacks some explanations, but I'm sticking to it for the moment.
I really thought it aswell, i feel like it was not the end with that whole thing of Ena getting absorbed, principally something that was seemingly so strong getting assimilated by a recently ascended aeon, in my opinion, i feel like ( voluntarily or not ) Sunday is getting used by Ena to took control over all the entities in Xipe and go back to power, i'm not sure about it but if i'm not mistaken ( correct me if i'm wrong guys ), Xipe is the union of a lot of entities, and that Ena wasn't absorbed necessarily because she was from a similar concept, but because Xipe wanted Ena to be the part of that collective mind against Ena's will ( and of course not being in control and be forced to be in equal in a collective system would be a true nightmare for something/someone like Ena, that's why i don't belive Ena did it willingly with some sort of greater plan ), but Ena saw the possibility of being even more powerful by taking control over Xipe and ruling over that much entities, i'm glad that i wasn't the only one who saw similarities with Sunday's boss fight and Ena, and about the paths and concept you said, in my opinion the aeons are the embodiment of that path but the paths doesn't depend on the aeons to exist, taking the knights of beauty, it may be a silly example but if it's true that can be a strong evidence, all the knights of beauty are very beautiful as it seems by now, on a way that feels pretty unnatural, Argenti for example, this can be debatable for some people, but he has some ungodly rizz and beauty for a mere pathstrider or a regular human that unknowingly follow or strenght a path, i don't believe he was born this way, or at least that he was born with the basics ( being ginger with green eyes ) but some sort of Idrila blessing upgraded his appearance by a thousand fold to be that way, this being said, i believe that regardless of the aeon being dead or not, it can still leave marks on it's path to it's followers to receive, like a blessing, and that can only change if someone/something else ascends as the new aeon of that path, that's possibly how there could still be followers or emanators from paths that it's aeons had already died, got assimilated, absorbed or anything like that, because aeons aren't the reason for a path to exist, they're simply beings, entities, animals, creatures, humanoids, humans, artificial things, etc, that due to the Honkai Star Rail universal laws of existance got on a very privileged place on that path as it's most avid embodiments until that time, and the emanators doesn't receive the power from the aeon itself, but the aeon only makes easier for an emanator to extract the path's imaginary power, like when you go to buy something at the market, the market isn't the producer of for example, a rice package you buy, they sell it to you, but the owner of that market didn't planted and took care of the rice, they're simply making easier for you to obtain the rice, as the owner of the market has the contact with the farm that plants the rice, but going back to another point that you mentioned, about Sunday being an emanator of Ena, i don't believe so, he doesn't give a vibe of an emanator, but i have no much reason to believe that he's not, just doesn't seems like truth to me, but i do believe that his race is blessed by Ena, you see, Sunday and Robin aren't humans, but humanoid creatures, they clearly have biological differences from humans like Himeko, Welt, March 7th ( probably ), although it's minimal it still there, and as we saw at the Xianzhou with the Vidryatra ( i think i typed it wrong, anyway, Dan Heng Embibidor Lunae race to make it easier ), they're not humans, look like them but have differences, and they received a blessing from an aeon that is no longer alive, the blessing of rebirthing and that blessings is given to them regardless if they follow the path of that aeon or not, that's why both Ena and Sunday have so many biblical references and similarities between each other, because his race was blessed by Ena, and if what i said is right, and Ena is in fact alive but somehow trapped inside Xipe, he somehow got inside the family, took the place as their leader, all in a plan to help the Aeon he's truly loyal to break free and rule over Xipe and Penacony, and nobody ever suspected because due to that absorption and Xipe's nature, in some way Ena is Xipe, but not totally so nobody could ever suspect or accuse him of conspiracy against Penacony and Xipe's cult, and now as the leader of the Family, anyone that discovers about his plans, are quickly silenced.
I don’t see the ena part leaks has musical notes etc looks just like harmony
13.02 these are not Ravens but Nightingales. It was mentioned during the quest (the statues in Sunday's office) and the name of one of the families is Nightingale Family.
Order is often prominent in creating harmony
Wouldn't be surprised if Order is orchestrating a ton of stuff to bring itself back
Maybe the "real dreamscape" has something to do with that, like it's how it'll be brought back
Ok so , essentialy we got
Propagation = Ruan mei
Erudition = Screwllum
So we still have stephen and herta to get their SU expansion, and the ones already existing cover two things both explain
The death of an Aeon and the emperor's war
So my cureent theory is that
1. Next SU expansion is stephen focus , with the thene of aeons absorbing each other
2. In the histry there is a group of people that are trying to separate ena and xipe
Those are my thoughs!
Why would you center your whole video and title over a leak 😑 kinda defeats the purpose of a "spoiler warning".
Great analysis; you could be right about this. As for the path and Aeons, I believe from my understanding by reading the lores in-game; an individual walks on a path so far that they create that branch and make it prominent. At that moment, they also ascend to Aeonhood. If later on they disappear or absorbed or “die”, the Aeon is no more, but the path remains. (I believe Himeko also reiterates this.) That’s why it’s possible to still have followers on a path with no Aeon. Now if the person walks too far on a path following an already existing Aeon, they might become an Emanator either naturally, or directly blessed by the respective Aeon. I don’t know if anyone can still become an Emanator if the Aeon that belong on that path is already “dead”; this part is a bit of myth to me and I don’t recall any info on it. Would they become the Aeon themselves instead of Emanator? Or would they just be a fellow path follower?
That just made me realize there’s that Eye guy that we did memory quests with, is that related?
Wait, there is an Aeon called A-nus?
So basically this mf spoiled me through leaks
Xipe pronounced like She-peh with emphasis on the first syllable
I never trusted the family, but still dont understand why did robin ended like that also why the brother reacted like that. Maybe they are sacrifices ?🔥
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I don’t think Ena would be relèvent to the story but t this point, plus we already know some things about Penacony and the Harmony :
1- There’s a lot of robotic being in Penacony (the monsters and even the Intellitrons, which resembles a lot the final boss).
2- It is said that the Harmony most likely has Emanators in the Harmonic Strings, which some are in relation with music and orchestras (the boss fight) => playing in Harmony.
In fact how the story has been managed since Robin’s drip marketing, makes me a lot perplexed. We know she will be alive (not the same case with Ting Yun who died after she was playable), so Sundays death was abnormal, AND for someone who can conjure Harmony, controls Ravens and is a Halovian, turning him into a puppeteer would be incoherent in my opinion.
Anyway, I think and I would love to see him unleash his power either for good or bad in the name of harmony as a mysterious Emanator rather than he controlling a big meca in 2.2 😂
There was also something welt said
“Aeons can only operate according to their Primum Mobile. For example, we won’t ever have to worry about Harmony stirring up a storm”
Actually Xipe pronounced as 'shippay'
Real video starts at 2:30.
Have you read leaks… how on earth…
I feel like Acheron wasn't really a part of Ena's plan, it wanted the House of Ifrit to come to the ball, which means Destruction and not Nihility. And with everything we've seen, I expect Acheron, and Aventurine because of 2.1, to be the reason why Ena can't win.
Also pointing out that a giant eyeball ushers us into the dreamscape and penacony is covered in televisions there’s a whole cctv room it’s almost like we are being watched by a greater entity
I mean, Panacony is defying Order iitself by allowing people to live in a dream. Makes sense Ena would want to destroy it but why Sunday
interesting thought, what if after assimilating Ena, Xipe tried to co-exist with her. Being in "Harmony" with each other. Ena perhaps lay low and goes along, presumably "dead" or "assimilated" and she may or may not have already told her followers about it.
Awesome theory! From a meta level, we suspect at some point of the story, TB will likely resonate with the Harmony. (Not sure why didn’t already happen with Hunt/Abundance, but maybe they are saving that for later.) Whenever this happens, what reason would we have to do so?
Preservation needed a true representative when one could not be found within its supposed followers. Cocolia the Architect had abandoned preserving her living people to “preserve” the planet in ice, and so we took up the Lance in her stead.
Perhaps Sunday and the family too have abandoned Harmony for Order, and we will eventually need to save Xipe from Ena to save Penecony.
Do you think aeons can be playable? Like if emanators are playable who are blessed by an aeon. It's not that they are concepts only, they have given characteristics and their own illustrations, that would be so cool.
Edit: Also, unlike Genshin, even after playing HSR for a long time, I don't seem to understand the end goal, like yea, we are going from planet to planet and resolving internal issues but what is the goal of the journey, to ascend to aeonhood or just hop onto one after another endlessly.
I think Xipe's name is pronounced 'shee-pay' but I may be wrong. Hoyo pronounces the 'Xi' like a 'sh' like in Xianyun, Xiangling, etc.
ena being present in penacony is not a sign of xipe being absent. they're now part of the harmony, since being assimilated by definition is not simply being gone. so i assume order has its place under the rule of xipe and sunday's boss fight's design has influence from both ena and xipe, from being a golden puppet to being a literal conductor (harmony is associated with music)
I was thinking the same thing when it cam to the theme of Penacony. Everything seems more closely related to Ena the order than Xipe. There is a theory that says that Xipe didn't absorbe Ena rather, they fused. This theory came from the concept during the 2.2 boss battle where the boss summons the aid of an entity. If you look at the hand it has the color schemes of Ena and Xipe combine.
I think the path of "Harmony" might be a fusion of both it and the order. If not than it's something else, but even if all the theories are wrong, there is no doubt that there is a lot of hints from desgins and the fact that Sunday's and Robin's species the Halovians share theme of the order especially their halos which Ena's "puppet" also has one too. Overall, the events near the end of the swarm disaster are very ancient and old and information that we have about the Aeons and what they have done throughout time could be now outdated or we don't have the full picture, not even Herta fully knows, this is when also ouroboros vanished.
That raven is just Oz Dw.
Penacony = penal colony