Spain's Mistake – Episode 23 – DIP v3 Brazilian Campaign



Their mistake of course is rising the ire of the Brazilian Navy. Spain does have some ships, some are even well designed, but they’ve long fallen behind the curve in terms of technology. Meanwhile we begin the process of modernising the fleet with radar, auto loaders and other fun toys to make the AI’s suffering even more delicious.

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21 thoughts on “Spain's Mistake – Episode 23 – DIP v3 Brazilian Campaign”

  1. There's a historical sense of irony in seeing an almost-united South America led on by Brazil fighting against the Spanish, I'll give you that.
    That San Esteban ship, the Apedreado part means "stoned", but not the "oh god there goes the monetization please I didn't mean that", but rather "death by people throwing stones at him". A quick Wikipedia search says that the was the first martyr of Christianity, huh.

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  2. I've always thought Brazilian flag looked eerily similar to the "The World is Yours" sculpture from the movie Scarface. But never has the association seemed more apt than when looking at the broken map in this BrotherMunro Brazilian campaign.

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  3. HI there BrotherMunro
    I have noticed you increasing the length of gun barrels but it seems to me the US has an advantage there, Even in 1913 I was getting 14inch guns of 51 calibers.
    Your lack of dockyard space is strange, I always increase that as much as I can. Not only to build bigger ships but to refit more hulls at the same time. It's only about 1930 in my game yet I have over 900,000 tons yard space.

    I just read the latest update, it seems stupid ot me that a game called UA Dreadnoughts is now making it harder to build large numbers of these ships.
    The computer already loves, loves, loves the small ship torpedo swarm attack method and this will make that even more ridiculous.
    The designers seems to have forgotten that we are only one person trying to control numerous ships. The game is really not designed for the player to manage large fleets

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  4. As an idea for DiP would be to refit a ship that is under repair rather than having to waste time repairing a ship to obsolescent design THEN refitting it like you new 15 gun cruiser.
    So instead of 5 months to repair a heavily damaged ship THEN 5 months to refit to your new cruiser design maybe 8 months to repair/refit. That's what happened in real life

    Also being able to build more ships of the refitted design rather than having to copy it which makes it a new class and when you refit them you have to hope you do the exact same thing to maintain a uniform design.

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  5. Attack on Western Sahara 28:55:

    Estadão, 28 December 1946

    After having taken Fezzan-Ghadames, Southern Algeria, and Niger from the dismantled German Empire, the Exército Brasileiro has begun an overland campaign to take Western Sahara away from the Ejército de Tierra (Spanish Army).

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  6. Battle of Cagliari 22:28:

    Estadão, 19 December 1946

    Two Reina Victoria Eugenia Class Cruçeros de 1a Clas, Santa Ana and Santa Maria de Gracia, the Infanta Isabel Class Cruçeros de 3a Clas Isla de Luzón, and the Ceuta Class Destructor de torpederos Lanao were patrolling south of the Nederlander occupied island of Sardinia when they were found by the Vingança class Cruzador Blindado Valente Renascido from the Gaeta Naval Base de Latina and the Pirajá class Cruzador Escoteiro Arapaima from the Taranto Naval Base de Apulia.

    Valente Renascido spotted funnel smoke to the north-west and moved to close. Arapaima was ordered to fall in behind her and spot incoming torpedoes. Valente Renascido soon sighted the Santa Ana and Santa Maria de Gracia and opened up with her 10” guns. The Spaniards got the first hit on Valente Renascido but she just shrugged it off. In return Valente Renascido hit Santa Ana with seven 10” shells, punching one through her fore belt. Arapaima also began to engage as the 3” guns on Valente Renascido opened up on the closing Lanao. Lanao lost her 3.1” gun magazine and flooded forward, but kept closing to bring her two twin torpedo launchers into her 4 kilometer range. She then took a flooding hit aft as more of her upper works were blown off. Lanao sank with 118 of her 136 man crew. Lanao’s torpedo strike missed.

    Santa Maria de Gracia attempted to close and got her bow blasted for her troubles, taking flooding and 53 casualties. Arapaima launched torpedoes at the damaged Spaniard, a spread of five. The spread was wide and the one hit was a dud. Valente Renascido had come around to a north-east course, and once her main battery had trained got three hits on Santa Maria de Gracia, two through the main belt. Santa Maria de Gracia was flooded fore and flooding aft with nearly 140 casualties reported. Still her stations were all fully manned. Santa Maria de Gracia began to try and break away. As she ran Santa Maria de Gracia lost her aft main battery turret. Santa Maria de Gracia began to roll as flooding broke into her engineering spaces. She sank with 1220 of her 1273 as she rolled over and showed her keel.

    Valente Renascido next targeted the Santa Ana. Soon Santa Ana was flooded forward with nearly 200 casualties reported. When flooding took hold aft Santa Ana sank with 1240 of her 1273 man crew.

    The sun was setting behind her as Isla de Luzón fled east. She had lost her 1.7” magazine, her forward funnel, most of her bow, and had flooding forward and 150 casualties reported. She took more flooding hits in her engineering spaces, and with all engines gone she sank with 708 of her 796 man crew.

    Valente Renascido took 42 casualties with only one man returned to duty. Arapaima took one casualty and picked up the 192 Spanish survivors. Repairs on these ships had caused the Aconcagua and the Assissino Silencio to be suspended for the moment.

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  7. First Blood, Part 2 14:35:

    Estadão, 12 December 1946

    Engaging Again

    Vingança was back in range and punching 10” shells straight through transports. The 5” guns of the Julio de Noronha’s were also starting to hit. The transport San Felipe was blown up and sunk with 166 of her 177 man crew. Blanca was sunk with 150 men lost while La Victoriosa was ordered to turn her division and come north to join Vingança and provide her torpedo warnings with their hydrophones. Turning to join them, Vingança avoided a number of torpedoes incoming. Another Brazilian torpedo hit and the Argonauta was sunk with 173 men. The Martin surrendered after losing 74 of her crew. Villa de Madrid surrendered after losing 80 men. Santa Escolástica (de Nurcia, founder of the Benedictine nuns) was blown up with her magazines and lost 145 men.

    Vingança turned west to chase the escorts and remaining transports as La Victoriosa turned in behind her. The Cruçero Alfonso XII was sunk with 747 of her 796 man crew. The raiders then targeted the most modern Cruçero, Reina Victoria Eugenia. Reina Victoria Eugenia was getting hits back on Vingança. San Juan Nepomuceno was trailing the convoy, the Vingança put her secondary guns to targeting the transport which surrendered after losing 69 men but launching her torpedoes. Vingança had to again dodge. Pizzarro became the next secondary target. She blew up, losing 140 men.

    La Victoriosa began to take 10.4” and 10.6” shells from Vizcaya and Cristóbal Colón. Her division returned fire on Vizcaya, which was really Vingança’s job, but the Cruzador Blindado had rudder damage and was not able to close. The transport Serio launched torpedoes at La Victoriosa, again forcing the Cruzador Caçador to pull away, now more the hunted than the hunter. Still she sank the convoy leader San Francisco Javier with 171 of her 177 man crew, blown to pieces. The Serio was sunk with 162 of her crew. The Spanish Merchant Marine had lost 195 thousand gross registered tons of shipping, 1916 officers and seamen killed, and 739 captured.

    Three Spanish Cruçeros were left. Reina Victoria Eugenia finally sank, losing 1183 of her 1273 man crew, the largest crew complement of the Spanish ships and the most modern of them gone. Vizcaya scrapped off the bow of the sinking Reina Victoria Eugenia trying to close on the Brazilian ships. She was flooded forward, her forward 10.4” turrets were damaged along with most of her hull and her super structure. She had over 200 casualties reported. La Victoriosa was passing Vingança and was ordered to bring her division in behind. The older Cristóbal Colón was trying to close as well when her aft 10.6” twin turret blew off in a towering magazine explosion. She sank with 508 of her 564 man crew.

    Vizcaya took more hits and began to flood aft, losing her main tower, fire control, and conning tower. The flooding fore and aft rapidly filled her compartments, then the forward bulkhead of her citadel caved and she sank with 565 of her 591 man crew. The Armada Real Española had lost 47 thousand tons of warship displacement, 3124 officers and sailors killed, and 236 captured.

    Every torpedo armed Brazilian ship reported at least one hit. La Victoriosa had taken the most damage and 121 casualties, eleven of whom recovered from their wounds and returned to duty. Vingança took 46 casualties but got 8 men back to duty, Paraguassú took 36 casualties with 5 returned to duty, Centinela took 8, and Notacl 4.

    The next day Madrid appealed to Brasila to negotiate an end to their ill-conceived war. Brasila said no.

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  8. First Blood, Part 1 07:45:

    Estadão, 12 December 1946

    Off Algeria

    The Vingança, lead of her class of Cruzadores Blindado, and the Julio de Noronha class Destruidor Centinela, from the Messina Naval Base de Sicily, joined two Paraguassú class of Cruzadors Caçador from the Gaeta Naval Base de Latina, the class lead Paraguassú and the La Victoriosa, along with the Julio de Noronha class Destruidor Notacl, from the Nice Naval Base de Nizza, to conduct commerce denial patrols off the Algerian coast of our former ally the Troisième République Française when they found a convoy of fifteen San Francisco Javier class 13 thousand ton 177 manned torpedo and 4.2” gun armed transports escorted by class lead Reina Victoria Eugenia Class Cruçero de 1a Clas, the 1935 Refitted Vizcayz Class Cruçero de 2a Clas Vizcaya, the San Salvador Class Cruçero de 2a Clas Cristóbal Colón, the Infanta Isabel Class Cruçeros de 3a Clas Alfonso XII, and the Ceuta Class Destructor de torpederos Odiel. Reina Victoria Eugenia has the speed of a modern ship, and the armor, as well as three twin 9.1”/42 Mark 3 gun turrets. Vizcaya had her refit and three twin 10.4”/31 mark 2 gun turrets, but pathetic speed. Cristóbal Colón had outdated armor, two twin 10.6” gun turrets, and moderate speed. Alfonso XII was little more than a protected cruiser armed with two single 7.1” and sixteen 1.7” guns, torpedoes, and 18 knot speed. The Destructor Odiel was not modern, but had a 33.9 knot speed, though only two dual torpedo launchers and a single 3.1” guns along with six single 2” guns.

    Vingança detected funnel smoke of a score ships to the south-west and headed for them. La Victoriosa led Paraguassú forward to scout the enemy with Centinela and Notacl followed them. Odiel came out to investigate what was closing on the convoy. Being one of five ships herself, she might have thought this an even fight. Vingança skirted her while Centinela engaged. It was a 10” shell from Vingança that shattered Odiel however, sinking her with 122 of her 136 man crew.

    Cristóbal Colón and Reina Victoria Eugenia were sighted next. Cristóbal Colón was clearly an older ship with turrets fore and aft but Reina Victoria Eugenia had a super firing pair forward and one turret aft. Her secondary twin 5.1” turrets were mounted super firing aft and amidships. Vingança had her main battery two forward and one aft as well.

    The La Victoriosa and Paraguassú were closing on the convoy and sank the Martin Alonso Pinzón with 60 of her 177 man crew. It was at this time the raiders detected torpedoes coming in, even though the escorts were on the far side of the convoy. The transports had twin torpedo launchers port and starboard launching 23” compressed air aided combustion torpedoes. With this news the transports became targets of opportunity, rather than secondary targets, and the already damaged Lista was sunk with 145 of her 177 man crew. La Victoriosa turned her division with orders to watch for more torpedoes incoming, and launched her own spread of five. The transport Extremedura was sunk with 85 of her crew as La Victoriosa launched her second spread of five torpedoes. Paraguassú had also launched a spread as the Cortes was sunk with 150 men. With just three transports sunk so far the convoy was doing a good job of keeping the raiders out of range. Still the Almirante Ferrándiz was blown up with 145 men lost. La Victoriosa barely dodged one incoming torpedo and Paraguassú was having to dodge other spreads. La Victoriosa got her first torpedo hit on the sinking hulk of Martin Alonso Pinzón, which explained why 117 men bailed out early rather than try to save the ship.

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  9. Spain Declares War on Brazil! 05:55:

    Estadão, 5 November 1946

    Our scant 19 months of peace are over. The Reino de España has declared war on the Estado Novo do Brasil over the heated communiqués passing between Madrid and Brasila.

    For Spain this means they have gone to war with the Crusader State of Groot-Nederland but that the Estado Novo do Brasil has lost their alliance with the Troisième République Française. This is deeply troubling as membership in the Second English Channel Entente is a key to the security of Brazil. Spain remains at war with America, though there doesn’t seem to be any activity.

    The capital ships, less Invictus Cohete still in Sasebo on Kyūshū, have left their French ports on the Rivera and headed for Spanish waters.

    Brasila had declared their war objectives are to take the Spanish Empire. They will of course be competing with Amsterdam to see who gets what.

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  10. Relatório: Refit of the Aratu class of Cruzadors Caçador. 01:22:

    Diretoria-Geral do Material da Marinha: Relatório da Direção: 2-Feb-1946

    Brief: The Aratu '46 refit will cover three Cruzadors Caçador designed to a target displacement of 10,000 tons and a top speed of 31 knots. This will be the beginning of the introduction of Modern Steel Alloy armor, advanced marine diesels, RADAR, and other upgrades to the fleet.

    Propulsion: The class has three new advanced diesel engines burning new advanced fuel oil vented though one funnels generating 30,269 indicated horsepower turning three screws for the required top speed on a design displacement of 9,986 tons fully loaded with a balanced rudder turned by advanced electro-hydraulic power for an operational range of 22,911 nautical miles. The class carries diesel auxiliary engines for emergency power.

    Armament: The class' main battery is five triple turrets mounted in super duper firing triple fore and super firing pair aft bearing 6"/45 Mark 5 guns with 6" face, 3" top, 3.4" barbette Modern steel alloy armor, turned by advanced electro-hydraulic systems with automatic reloading, using modernized Coincidence range finders, and with the most advanced flash fire protection. The main magazine carries a balanced load of standard sized 50% Base Fuze HE and 50% Improved Capped Ballistic AP shells using Triple Base as the propellant and Composition B as the bursting charge. A new secondary battery is five triple mounts two per side and on super duper firing aft bearing 3"/42 Mark 5 guns. The secondary magazine carries a HE heavy standard load of standard sized 62.5% Base Fuze HE and 37.5% Improved Capped Ballistic AP shells. One larger quintuple Mark 4 deck torpedo mounts launching a standard load of 24" torpedoes with compressed oxygen aided combustion rounds out the armament.

    Protection: New Modern steel alloy armor is clade 5" on the outer belt the length of the ship, 2.5" on the 1st inner belt in the citadel, 2" on the 2nd inner belt, 1.6" on the 3rd inner belt, 3" on the main deck, 1.5" on the extended deck, 1.8" on the 1st inner deck, 1.4" on the 2nd inner deck, 1.2" on the 3rd inner deck, 2.5" on the superstructure, and 6" on the conning tower. The Class has a double bottom hull, reinforced bulkheads with water tight hatches separating extensive compartmentation, counter-flooding systems, improved pumps and piping for flooding reduction. A crew of 844 officers and enlisted men will be provided spacious quarters. The class now carries Radio Direction Finding (RDF) and Advanced SONOR systems.

    Construction: The refit will cover the lead ship Aratu, Vinganca, and Ravia staggered as dry dock space becomes available. Refit time will be 5 months with a recommissioning time of 2 months. Valuation of each ship will rise to $323,788,800, and monthly maintenance in port will now be $7,447,144.

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  11. I've only recently bought this game and am a good few years into a (actually stable so hopefully can finish it!) campaign and whilst I'm having a cracking timer at the moment after watching this series I'm wondering if there's any point in carrying on in the later stages of the campaign as you just seem to be bullying any opposition with hardly any real risk to your ships.

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  12. Feeling mischievous, so am submitting for consideration/comment the following specs for a future campaign. Call it Brother Munro's Nightmare. Capital ship guns have to use odd calibers (11", 13", etc). No beam reduction allowed. in fact, let's increase all beams by say 5% to make a more stable firing platform. No 2" guns/derivatives at all. No 3" guns starting in 1912. All capital ships must have secondary's of at least 4" caliber. Furthermore, all capital ships must use stereoscopic rangefinders beginning in 1940, given the increased distances such ships fight at. And the floor is open for further discussion…

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