SpaceX’s MAJOR PLAN CHANGED from Florida to Starbase!
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SpaceX’s MAJOR PLAN CHANGED from Florida to Starbase!
Starbase and Florida were two competing locations to launch Starships!
Two years ago, Elon Musk – the head of SpaceX, announced the Starship launch plan, stating: “I think Kennedy will be our sort of main operational launch site.”
However, until now, everything seems to tend to change.
A thousand miles to the west of Florida, Starbase is increasingly developing and overshadowing the Kennedy Space Center, rising to become a mecca for Starship.
So, why did SpaceX change its major plan?
Let’s find out everything in today’s episode of Alpha Tech.
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What if SpaceX has twin launch sites; this would facilitate more launches in shorter time frames.
Plans change, bureaucracy sucks.
Less bureaucracy, more progress.
Maybe people should think about that, when voting, donating, and influencing.
What I look forward to most, is getting past blockages, past out dated concepts.
And to things that work.
I think thats the best thing about Elon, he doesn't let anything stop him.
And its our collective future he is working on.
Whats gonna happen over time, is the new engines will allow doing more things we didn't realize were possible. Not only bigger ships, but designs that we now think insane. Also the reliability of Raptor 3's and beyond, due to increasing simplification, means that we wont be limited to coastal areas for launches and landings.
I doubt that the current shape of Starship will be what is used 50 years from now. Requires too much infrastructure, and we need to do it in the dirt for the Military, and for the Moon and Mars.
And if it doesn't get realized by SpaceX, it can be a competitor.
To me its not about a person, or a single company, its about an entire future, with myriad changes, that though many were started by Elon, people realized potentials and paths, and ran with the ball.
Like this morning, thinking about an egg shaped lander. Would be a good stabile configuration for Lunar or Mars.
I think we need lift ships for gravity wells, and very large transit ships for the long passages.
The future isnt one size fits all. Best things be designed to purpose. And we are soon leaving the cradle of rocketry tech. And its a big universe of possible designs.
Sure wish the competitors would get serious… All that money waiting to flood into any company that gets decent results…
Maybe Bezos will have his Mr. Magoo moment? Or Beck will keep at it? Elon needs the help in exploring more options.
The difference is between the cultures of government and private enterprise. Things at NASA are too bureaucratic, too cautious, and simply move too slowly for SpaceX.
I always questioned why spacex chose boca chica as the starship R/D facility ! Seems there was some oversites on elons part ! It would be a shame and a big lose to the economy because big government entities and there rules are so outdated !
Thanks great video 👍👍
The second tower ar Starbase will likely be built to accommodate starship V2 (taller)
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Nah – they need the second tower just in case either SuperHeavy or StarShip trash the first one during practice rocket-catching.
Florida closer to equator. Sometimes i wonder about Elons decisions.
But hey i guess getting away from anything givernment owned is a smart choice
I suppose the faa intervention has to be involved if starship got be a safe as a plane.
Elonovich Muskovite,
Objects to Starlink bring used by Ukraine, but can't pocket Space Forces $$$ , FAST ENOUGH , for Troupe deployments !
Fuckin HIPPOCRITE !!!!
The second tower might be used for catching the boosters, in which case it won't need the expensive plumbing and a mishap won't cause a massive investment to go up in smoke.
A high cadence launch rate could irritate the locals. Here is a modest proposal: establish a spaceport at Midway Island in the Pacific. It's midway between the Americas and Asia and could be a great future location for a Space-Manufacturing hop-hub, with all the ups and downs that will require.
The island (part of the Hawaiian Island chain) is small — though it was the center of a decisive WWII naval battle that carries its name. However, it is surrounded by US territorial waters where "Oil Platform" style launch pads could be located. Converted container ships could provide areas for workshops. LNG-style tankers could store fuel. A cruise liner could house the workforce. Much of the ground-level work can be done from Hawaii and the families of launch crews could live there while the working partners return for breaks.
The Island is isolated, so the high pace of launching and catching rockets won't disturb voters. Congress could establish a legal framework to allow private companies and competing launchers to operate from the Midway Spaceport transparently. A regulated, but privately owned, Spaceport Authority could be established and listed on the New York Stock Exchange.
NASA didn't like Starship landing 1000 feet from their only Manned launch tower (SLC-39B) to swap out personnel. An accident could damage the manned launch tower and with Starliner in limbo, this was considered a high risk.
Recently, Spacex modified SLC-40 to allow Manned launches and may be used in that capacity in January. This would remove the objections to using SLC-39B (Starship Tower) for launches.
This would allow Spacex to bypass the FAA if they blocked launches again going forward by using the KFC (Military authority).
God Speed to SpaceX, Starbase, and Starship.
America needs them for our future.
One wonders at the hidden politics behind the scenes here. Musk already gets away with illegally smoking weed in Texas because he's a "job creator". Governor Abbott is probably mocking Governor DeSantis over stealing some crucial bragging rights from Florida. Elon has long since forgiven Texas for all the years they fought to block the sale of Teslas in their state. They made enough concessions to him to buy his forgiveness. Plus, he's building a literal fiefdom. He wants his employees to live in company housing and send their children to company schools. Starship is his leverage to do all of this.
I think you guys are doing a great job, but I'm sitting on pins & needles waiting for the next starship launch! I've been a space kid since i was 12yo. when I read Robert A Heinlein's book, "Have Spacesuit Will Travel." Now I'm 70yo and I'm watching rockets flying almost every day! I hope I'm still around when we establish a permanent settlement on the moon. Let's keep speed it up!
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So is Starship a Dyson?
How will Starship deploy troops/cargo to destinations around the world on short notice? Without legs or "catch Towers" how will they land and deploy? Just don't see it happening…
For those friendly countries, that “ can’t Get it up” Elon should sell secondhand boosters, be a nice little earner Elon😎 🇪🇸
I don’t think they’ve changed their plans
2 launch towers says to me there is a good chance one of them could be lost whilst testing the landing of boosters
And it is the Gateway this is the beginning it is testing
“Florida could be the Bridge to Mars”
Kennedy simply did not want a test rocket explosion, damaging another launch tower or rocket. Especially with Kennedy's very slow and expensive rebuild times. So Musk moved the test program to texas, building starbase. Except for the FAA introducing delays, it was probably a good move. In hind site maybe Massey might have better, since it was an existing gun test range. But Starbase looks awesome from the water.
The sheer size of the operations at any space port built to support a launch cadence that Elon has layed out is gonna be huge. 1000 launches a year for 10 years? Carbon copy the Boca Chica launch site and spread it out over the marshes at Boca Chica (I doubt the EPA and Army Corps of Engineers would allow that to happen). You would need 10 sites, minimum, to launch 100 Starships a year. They couldn't get 100 launches this year with the smaller easier to build Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy and 2 Starship launches, they petered out at 98. Not to mention the other iterations of Starship, the point to point cargo, the space junk trash truck, the space telescope, etc. There also going to need to carbon copy the manufactering hub at Boca Chica to churn out all these Starships. Ambitious doesn't quite grasp the hugeness of this endeavor. It'll be awesome to see them try.
NASA, what a joke…
United States government needs to monitor and take the proper action against asteroid Apophis!
They should try to deflect it and place it into an orbit, if possible around the moon or future mining purposes.
SpaceX should build a falcon 9 launch tower at starbase.👍
I would be interested to know whether Ms Shotwell agreed with her boss about building a launch tower in Fla before the one in Texas had been proven. I’m also curious as to why NASA allowed an unproven launchpad design to go forward in Fla. Breaking new ground is always risky, and in this instance – and in Texas for that matter – very costly when things don’t go according to plan.
Am not understanding the primacy given by SpaceX to Starbase. After all, at Starbase, unlike at Kennedy, SpaceX struggles with permitting issues with FAA/ FWL. It was expected that the above podcast would address this, and explain why the advantages of locating primary launch facilities in Texas somehow outweighs these permitting problems. But, no, the narrator said nothing on that. Disappointing. 🙁
Partially correct. SpaceX is now centering Starship research and development work at Boca Chica. That will keep Starship busy for the next 3 or 4 years perfecting tower landings, learning to do propellant refilling in LEO, building and flying the HLS Starship lunar lander, deploying advanced versions of the Starlink comsats.
Once SpaceX begins development of missions to the Moon and Mars on projects other than Artemis which will require frequent multiple launches of tanker Starships, construction will likely begin on ocean platforms for tanker Starship launch and landing operations. SpaceX has stopped work on early efforts to rebuild used oil drilling platforms for Starship operations and has hinted that their engineers have developed better designs for those platforms. Those platforms would be located in the Western Gulf of Mexico about 100 km offshore from beach at Boca Chica.
Tanker Starships would be built at the Boca Chica Starfactory and launched and landed at those ocean platforms. Methalox propellant and liquid nitrogen would be produced at shore-based facilities along the Texas Gulf Coast. Those cryogens would be transported to the ocean platforms via modified LNG tanker ships with 50,000t cargo capacity. Those tanker ships would function as a floating tank farms.
Uncrewed cargo Starships and crewed Interplanetary (IP) Starships probably would be built at the Roberts Road Starfactory and launch and landed at KSC in Florida.
A complex and lengthy bureaucratic and technological behind-the-scenes process… Let's hope that the thorns will not be fatal
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It will be a test tower to catch boosters and if it survives a starship… It will be constructed in an isolated place with a chopstick. Nothing else 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
We keep talking about the versatility of Starship. I'm on the edge of my seat waiting to see this come to reality… Come on, now. I need more Launches, FAA! The hold-up is absolutely killing me . They need to relax & let some danger slip through the cracks… Jee.. Zuss. Come on, already. If this were the 1940's we'd be at Proxima Centauri already…
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I don't get good vibes from Kathy Leuders. Is the the new General manager or Director? I get the Nasa air from her the way she tries to override what Elon said on Starship launches. No wonder she is an ex Nasa.
My guess is that Florida will become a personnel launch and retrofit/repair facility and Starbase will be the primary manufacturing facility with personnel launches as secondary to vehicle, defense and payload delivery launches. But who knows?