My case for why Storm should be a Strategist/Support instead of a Duelist. Honestly, I usually say we need to wait a long time before ever considering a character to be “remade” but she is just so far off what I think she could be.
Obviously it takes a lot of work to create these characters and I’m not dissing that, it just isn’t working too well currently.
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I agree she is for sure a little weak, and could have more interesting abilities, but is Loki a strategist? Ultron? It doesn’t have to make sense 1000% of the time I think. Other characters could have this same treatment you’re referring to, Hulks’ kit is weird and needs reworked more so than storm.
She has the three negatives with her main attack….slow, no splash, no hit scan. If she just had one of the three she’d be more viable. She has periods of time when she can only left click. Her E is the only ability that changes with stance. They could fix storm easy. They make her E in electric mode hit twice as fast for half the damage maybe a little more in electric mode and right click stays the same. In wind mode you have E that gives two dashes on their own cooldown and a right click that is a knock back. Left click should be different in each stance.
Storm is fine, people want her to he OP when shes actually balanced for the game. It would be cool if she did a little more but things like "all she can do is float and poke" are just ignorant.
People just need to learn how to use Storm, she’s a great character. She just plays differently than everyone else
I said the same thing when I first played her. I mentioned Storm needs a rework in the survey MR provides in the game menu. A Strategist buff character would work for her kit, Storm had healing powers in several different games in the past. (X-men Legends 2, Marvel Heroes Omega ) She could conjure healing winds, or buff allies with lightning damage. She even had a radiation damage aura in XML2. There’s plenty of resources to pull from to change her kit. Really disappointed we didn’t see chain lightning as a core element in her kit in this game too.
Let’s hope something happens, but we probably won’t see a rework for another season or so anyway. Thanks for making this video and putting word out there. 🫶
I Completely Agree Sadly
I think she'd work better as vanguard that buffs her team and debuffs the enemy team. Give her like 400 to 500 hp wind walls, keep her damage boost and more AOE damage, maybe a stun and shed be a really cool vanguard.
i can agree that her damage is underwhelming, but im a bit baffed at how you came to the conclusion that she should be a healer, that doesnt match her personality or identity at all. the name for healers in this game is strategists yes, but all roles are strategic its just a name and she definitely doesnt heal. the most important part of her identity is raw power and lightning so it makes no sense to make her heal.
Idk if anyone saw Star Trek Lower decks, But the storm we have in game reminds me of Ensign Olly. Zeus’ daughter who threw bouncy lighting bolts lmao
Fully agree and have been imagining reworks for a bunch of characters, Storm was top of the list.
She needs more damage and shorter cooldowns. If she had the psylocke passive that lowers cooldown based on hits she’d be better. That and a movement speed increase
I actually disagree, I'm starting to main Storm and I find her pretty strong. I'll admit she isn't as strong as her comic or cartoon version and that she definitely takes a lot of practice and work to make practical. She could definitely use some buffs, reloading the air is dumb…I'd also make her e last longer (maybe her ult too) and give her a better speed boost, even when in normal activation. I also might make the orb she provides a buff in a bit larger too but otherwise I wouldn't want to make her too overpowering. I like that it takes at least some skill to be good with her.
Chain lightning should definitely be better though…especially for a 20 second cooldown. Its a waste of a teamup.
ultron duelist storm stad???
Honestly I’d be fine with her being a duelist if her primary and secondary fire/abilities were different. She’s pretty easy to hit for the strong hits a characters and her piercing doesn’t matter much since her damage to shields is pretty bad and strange is in a lot of games. Even if strange isn’t in the game, groot and magneto also really mess up lining up good piercing shots. Maybe have her left click have two modes, a rapid fire lightning bolt attack that is better against shields and a slow piercing bolt. Could make her right click then be a big aoe wind push or something.
I’d be fine with her becoming a strategist as well, just if they really want her to be a duelist with auras she needs better shooting options since she cannot effectively flank (which would be the only thing that could justify her having bad shield break damage had she been better at it).
But yeah I definitely expected more aoe from her
I wish her stance change changed her basic attack as well. If she could get faster or even hit scan attacks with lightning and then small AOE burst with wind, it would make a world of difference
Yeah she should be a strategist focusing on AoE damage and area denial abilities. It would be fun to see her whip up a mist that she can see and target through (like Punisher's smoke bombs) but opponents cannot. Have her create a slow effect with extreme cold. She should have multiple ways to force players off a control point. She'd still be fairly squishy and her flight isn't fast.
Couldn't agree more. The cardinal sin isn't that her kit isn't meta or top tier. It is that it is boring. Boring, uninspired, unengaging, dull.
My fear is that she’ll become the symmetra of marvel rivals but honestly I have more faith in these devs to do her right. Give them some time to cook and time will tell.
She doesnt need a rework, just small changes. First make her primary fire infinite, no need to reload such an underpowered attack. Either that or make it more impactful, faster and hit harder.
I would also buff her wind aura, its only useful to get to the objective.
Her current team-up with Thor is trash, and her new team-up with Torch requires her ultimate. What other team-up requires an ult? It seems the devs have something against her. It took me 5 minutes to theorycraft a kit that was 100 times more interesting. Unfortunately, I don't have faith that they will fix her.
I really enjoy her kit and playstyle, but there are a few adjustments that could enhance the experience. These changes aren't necessarily all required, but a few tweaks would definitely improve her feel:
1. No reload mechanic
2. Increased speed/slow effect with Wind Aura
3. Wider range for basic attacks
4. Lightning abilities should chain to enemies
5. If possible, more dynamic visuals for her abilities
6. Health buff to around 250-300
Overall, I love her playstyle centered around weather manipulation to buff herself and her allies. While I agree some changes are needed, I don’t think she needs a complete overhaul—just a few refinements.
I like how you think, I was just arguing with some knuckle-heads on another video about how some character feel so basic and lackluster.
I said that it would've been cool if hela could raise the dead (obviously since she is the goddess of death) instead of being a broken hitscan character. They were arguing against this idea for some reason.
but yeah, I grew up playing x-men legends on ps2 and while the graphics aren't nearly on the level of marvel rivals, that version of storm had a lot more versatility than the one in this newer game.
Storm is one of my favorite characters in the comic book . her being a video game character is nothing new , look at Marvel versus Capcom she been in fighting the video game over 30 years .well , I don't care how longer I get to play as her, that's all account to me.
Sure but she is an omega level mutant very powerful thats why she is a duelist her powers dont heal. So not sure how you’d make her a strategist. She just needs better damage etc buff her or rework her to be the goddess she is supposed to be.
i feel like her kit had the right idea but is lacking in every aspect just enough for her to be considered useless but not useless enough for people to call her useless like iron fist, shes just kinda forgotten
I also agree, I think she should be remade into a healer
i think storm should have an alt primary to heal allies with a fresh breeze
Don’t forget she has fall off on her basic attack.
Storm does needs to stay a duelist but just need a bit of tweaks.
1. Her primary/left click should be what the team up ability is when thor is played.
2. They should keep her goddess boost as is…lightning bolts should rain down every 1 sec tho and in wind/speed form, enemies still slowed but hail shards falls instead making the ground slippery and freezing enemies the longer u stay on it, and hail shards tht fall do splash dmg, and keep the radius big no matter how high
3. Her right click should be a hold tht send out lightning beam thts not really chaining but piercing threw enemies while dmg form, but in speed/wind form she should have 3 charges and could throw out wind blast tht form little tornados on the ground tht slows enemies and does tik dmg
4. Her team up with thor should be the a gale lightning blast tht pierces through enemies, stuns the 1st person tht it hits, slows the rest, and form a mini lightning tornado tht does more dmg than her right click tornado in speed form.
5. Ult should be the same
6. Goddess boost should be 9 secs. All abilities do more DMG once goddess boost is active.
LIGHTNING FORM: 30%
WIND FORM: 20%
7. Right click dmg form lightning blast reloads itself
8.primary attack infinite chain lightning attack
9.Right click wind form, 3 tornado charges come up on their own aswell.
10. Infinite flying, just flies and moves alot fast than she does now
Thts my little tweaks I thought about for her..it she would still have utility and damage abilities from afar tht does more, sorry it's so long but lmk what yall think
storm is a support duelist who isn't meant to be killing she just does damage
If you play her correctly you can two shot most duelists.
As for your argument against her being a duelist because at the end of the day this is a fighting game and she uses her powers for fighting more than anything.
Ya'll seriously need to just get good and learn the character.
great video, very well made . You made very good points !!
Those of you claiming Storm should be a strategist should be ashamed of yourself! She's always been a sort of DPS character because she's an Omega level mutant. Of course it's hard to balance this in a video game if you think about it. I think the best way to fix her would be to make her basic attack bounce between enemies (like Moonknight) and remove her ammo capacity. However that would make her pretty OP. Maybe something like her shots leave a mark on her target and if she hits them again then it bounces. Then it would be more balanced.
storm should have an attack like wandas where instead of her drainig she shoots electricy. Its a cool down one but it stuns more than damages and locks on.
I can agree her kit, gameplay, and utility could be more interesting. The abilities need to do a better job of representing her. Imo whether she does a LOT or a little dmg isn't as important.
So NO she shouldn't just be a passive aura buff for allies, her effects should have a clear and strong intent, and that means they should be temporary and focused on a smaller area, and likely NOT centered on her.
I appreciate that u understand the benefits and detriments of her gameplay, ur a real fan who has given her a shot and acknowledges that you CAN do things with her, but there are some big design hang-ups that and holding her potential back
The reason she's not satisfying is bc too much of her kit is locked up in an aura thats always on. What clutch plays are u supposed to have when you don't have many abilities to AIM/target that can MISS in positioning or timing.
What effect's does she have that would be considered an Outplay because you placed a short duration area that can MISS and has a cooldown. Too much of her kit is tied up in simple effects that CANT miss, so whats there to be satisfied about when the abilities HOLD your hand, you have no control or agency over the effects you have, your skill doesn't matter, and what little skill you CAN employ doesn't provide a satisfying reward…u just need to standby your allies thats it.
IDK how they can make characters like Black Panther, Dr. Strange, Loki and Spiderman…and then Make Storm
arguing whether a character should be a strategist or duelist is pointless tho its better that you consider how well a character fits their fantasy
we have Dr. Strange as a TANK, and spiderman as basically an ASSASSIN, neither really fits the class if you look strictly at their lore. But their gameplay DOES fit them and what they can do.
The game and strategist class doesn't care that Storm vowed never to kill…when even strategist can deal tons of damage.
However if they did make Storm a strategist, i want them to do i like u said, focus on effects that move enemies away from allies, punish enemies, and enhance allies resistance to damage. No heals. We need more no-healing supports in games like these.
I have a ton of ideas for reworks for her
I love playing storm, i do also wish she did more. Primary fire shouldnt have reload, remove piercing, increase the damage, make her primary infinite, and she will be infinitely better.
What they should do is fix ban phases and make it so that its in all ranks.
I think Storm should be reworked into a Strategist. I think that demographic of players would appreciate Storm more than most dps players, and her being reworked to be more duelist-coded doesn’t fit her character at all. Besides, we have a billion dps and they just keep adding more, we’ve had like 5 more dps leaks in the last week. Just give her to us strat stans, we’ll give her a good home 🙏
Also, on the subject of keeping Storm as a non-healing strategist, I’m skeptical on how well that idea will work. (OW1 Symmetra flashbacks and OW1 Sombra flashbacks.)
if she’s competing for strategist slots, She’ll always be a subpar pick over a real one if she can’t heal (unless she’s broken). If she’s competing for dps slots, why would someone pick her when they can be more effective and feel more powerful on Hela or even Wolverine? (Unless she’s broken)
Honestly, if Storm had a healing ability and her ult could be reworked in a way to allow for dps or healing, I think she’d be in a better spot.
Most of her current abilities could honestly go to Aero, who just like Lin Lie was co-made by NetEase and Marvel.
It would be very upsetting if your fully healthbared avatar is being strucked out by one single lightning strike.
She was strong is the beta but got nerfed for some reason meanwhile hela remained untouched
It sucks because I bought her skin because she's my favorite character and there's not much of a reason to pull her out right now😢
I support reclassing Storm with a moderate rework. The fact that half of the Strategist roster has better dps than her while providing heals is proof enough that her kit needs some attention.
-Her left-click should be infinite ammo with faster projectile
projectile should get larger the further it goes, esp if there's falloff
faster fire rate, more damage, or a bit of both
-add charges to the right click with an enemy debuff (stun, turn off movement abilities, etc)
-her F can be a "support" ability: either a regenerating shield, damage reduction, or healing
-MORE MOVEMENT SPEED
-tweak the cooldown and duration on Goddess Aura.
-get better teamup ability with Thor
If I get a 1/3 of this I'd be happy
Honestly? She is just missing an AoE ability.
Example:
Give her a mini charge attack. If shes in Wind Mode, it's a whirlwind that stuns enemies and levitate enemies. If its Thunder Mode, a pillar of lightning bolts stomps towards medium range enemies, for some extra damage (she needs it).
I would also like to change her right click into a more powerful lightning attack and make her ammo infinite, but if I had to change something about Storm's kit, it is the addition of the ability I've described.
What do you guys think.
Yeah. If people are asking for any reworks in MR, it's either for Storm or Scarlet Witch… And I get it…