The fallout of Mariko’s sacrifice comes to fruition… Was Crimson Sky a success in the Season 1 Finale of Shogun (2024), “A Dream of A Dream” from FX. Here’s our reaction to our first time watching.
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Someone get them to watch Preacher. Id love to see her reaction to that show. Or Happy! Two of the most wild shows ever made.
Also for those unaware, this whole season was crimson sky. The entire show was crimson sky playing out more or less exactly how toranaga sama wanted it. Despite the death of his son. Though, he got something from that foolish sacrifice.
My guity pleasure is watching Americans trying to figure out TV shows and movies that aren't dumbed down for them.
you kept talking about yabushige and his death with "dishonor" when it really had nothing to do with honor or dishonor. he was simply obsessed with death the whole series and talked about it often. it was even a VERY memorable part in the first episode.
ありがとう
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Renewed for two more seasons?!?! They covered the entire book. I wonder if they can actually pull off two more seasons just as good as this one. I'm surprised, let's hope they can. 🤞
Wind and flowers, seeds…
Edit: Apparently I'm wrong about future seasons. They covered all of the original book. Perhaps other shows will be made of the other books written by Clavell which wander off of the thinly veiled actual history and go more fictional and follow the family of Anjin in their adventures in Asia. The major characters in the book and TV show were all real people, with different names. The real anjin, William Adams, married a commoner and had two children, but the entire family disappears from the historical record not long after Tokugawa Ieyasu's (called Toranaga in the book and show) grandson Tokugawa Iemitsu closes Japan. In Clavell's partly fictional books, continuing the Asian Saga after Shogun, the family ends up eventually in Taiwan, I believe, as a powerful trading clan.
Toronaga is a fkn tyrant and I love it. All this time thinking he was Ironman, dude turned out to be Thanos lol.
If they follow history, the next season could deal with the Taeko's heir coming of age and conspiring with his mother to overthrow Toranaga and claim the Shogunate for himself.
The book is so good on which this show is based on. Will season 2 & 3 be just as good when they have to write their own story? Though the book does give us some of Toranaga's thoughts on the future. No.1: To give his half brother enough rope so the Regents will be forced to kill him and all his heirs and family, so sorry. 2: Lady Ochiba and the Heir will need to be removed from the Council and their influence. 3: Isolate the Portuguese church and re-nogociate trade. 4: As Toranaga say's, "I did not choose to be who I am. It is my Karma to be Shogun." Cheers, Chris Perry.
Omi was my favourite character. Could always see what he was thinking by his facial expressions. Under appreciated acting.
"Flowers are only flowers because they fall" relates to Mariko and her ultimate goal of taking her life. "Thankfully, the wind" relates to Ochiba helping her give that death honorable purpose.
The opening scene was a dream, or nightmare. Blackthrone never left Japan in the book
Lady Ochiba was right. Toranaga deceived many people to become Shogun. Even villagers. But his wish for an era without war came true. Edo is now Tokyo. And Anjin is a real person. Anjin's grave is in Kanagawa Prefecture, next to Tokyo. The nearest station is Anjin-zuka Station.
A perfect ending for everything that happened. I hope the sequels are as great as this one.
" Let your hands be the last to hold her", like Mariko said about Fuji's baby…breaks my heart every time!
It wasn't until after the show that I found out this is based not only on the old Shogun, but its all based on the real story of John Blackthrone (actually not his real name). Granted of course there are some liberties taken. And what we know of him is that he actually died in Japan. Someone correct me if I am wrong though.
I'm pretty sure that the second season will be based on the Siege of Osaka (1614-1615). The situation leading up to the event is full of political conspiracies and battles large and small. If you read the Wikipedia entry on the Siege of Osaka, you'll agree with me. Wikipedia explains the background as follows:
When Toyotomi Hideyoshi died in 1598, Japan came to be governed by the Council of Five Elders, among whom Tokugawa Ieyasu possessed the most authority. After defeating Ishida Mitsunari in the Battle of Sekigahara in 1600, Ieyasu essentially seized control of Japan for himself and abolished the Council. In 1603, the Tokugawa shogunate was established with its capital at Edo. Hideyoshi's son Toyotomi Hideyori and his mother Yodo-dono were allowed to stay at Osaka Castle, a fortress that had served as Hideyoshi's residence. Hideyori remained confined to the castle for several years. In addition, as a mechanism of control, it was agreed that in the year 1603 he would marry the daughter of Tokugawa Hidetada, Senhime, who was related to both clans. Ieyasu sought to establish a powerful and stable regime under the rule of his own clan. Only the Toyotomi clan, led by Hideyori under the influence of Yodo-dono, remained an obstacle to that goal…
The show really had some incredible characters, to the point that it’s hard to imagine how it would be like without Hiromatsu, Yabushige, and Mariko
I suppose they could always do a prequel, and then we could still have those characters, just minus Blackthorne
I was one o the red samurai on the docks
28:10 "I like the Anjin, cuz he makes me laugh." Where have I heard that before? 👀 I won't lie, you got me laughing at that quick callback 😂
Favorite character has become Fuji after my first watch. She is so sassy and I feel her reactions are probably usually the audience's reactions for a lot of things. Some things not so much (although I think we can understand her feelings even if some of us lack the cultural understanding of duty and honor from this era and locale's context; sorry my phrasing here is not the best), but the way she reacted through just subtle facial expressions a lot of the time was incredibly impressive. Fantastic actress among a wonderful cast.
Some advice for you two: quit getting your education from Hollywood
This show was phenomenal & the finale was perfect. This remake had huge shoes to fill. The 1970’s Shogun book was well received critically & by the people which made it an instant hit. Then it was made into a 1980 TV miniseries that was one of the first epic big tv miniseries events that made it hugely influential. The book & the 1980 show weren’t just influential art & entertainment but culturally important. For many centuries Japan was an insular nation but opened up in the 19th Century. By the late 1970’s some Japanese companies had become household names like Honda & Sony. However the book & show had an influence on Japanese culture & history. Now we see Japanese culture everywhere here from sushi restaurants to technology & to movies. Shogun had a hand in that arguably.
Now I’m a yankee New Yorker to the bone but grew up with Japanese culture in my house as a half-Japanese & half-English kid. So I remember the show & have seen the explosion of Japanese things in our culture. Anyway, this remake had a high bar to keep or reach. I’d say they surpassed expectations.
Now I know many expected a big CGI battle in the finale but it seems despite the lack of a spectacular battle everyone lived the finale. They awed everyone with exposition, incredible acting & amazing dialogue instead. I haven’t watched your reaction yet but I’m hoping that you two enjoyed the finale just as much as I & everyone else did.🙂👍