Seven Theses on Theocratic Libertarianism | Doug Wilson



There are a number of believers who have recognized the radical unstuckness that is afflicting our generation, and it really is heartening to see the realization dawn on a number of different groups that we absolutely need to present a Christian alternative to secularism. Not surprisingly, there are more than a few ways to do this, and so we have different groups suggesting different ways for us to achieve this. There are the theocratic libertarians (Toby Sumpter), classic Reformed political theology (Timon Cline), Christian nationalists (Stephen Wolfe), a Christian form of the classic liberal order (David Bahnsen), stout Baptist resistance (Michael O’Fallon), tactically compromised Baptist resistance (Al Mohler), single issue resistance (John Piper), old school theonomy (Greg Bahnsen), natural law (J. Budziszewski), magisterial Baptist (Joe Rigney), and those trying to stave off or postpone an inevitable already-baked-in sell-out (David French). And of course, our raggety-taggety company here at St Anne’s must not forget our very own MacPhee (James Lindsay). And I would beg leave to play the role of Mr. Bultitude.

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32 thoughts on “Seven Theses on Theocratic Libertarianism | Doug Wilson”

  1. Jesus gave you the PATHERN.

    Have you even noticed Jesus was called RABBI?
    Have you even noticed that RABBI Jesus was not part of the government in Jerusalem, nore part of the government in Rome?

    Maybe you should consider Mathew 11:28 and the letter to the 7 churches.
    If you don't understand this, please, PLEASE, give me a call and I'll give you the KNOWLEDGE Lord God Almighty gave me.

    Some people will get this knowledge the easy way while the majority will gett it the hard way. The evidence will reveal each person's FAITH or lack of FAITH.

    All glory to Lord God Almighty and Jesus Christ my savior, blessed be his NAME forever and ever.
    Numbers 6:24-27
    Revelation 22:4-5

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  2. I do understand your jibe but present authorities are only there to keep a relative sense of order until Christ's Kingdom takes over. There's no need whatsoever to inject yourself into this World politics. As a matter of fact, you're commanded to stay out of it.
    You're obviously not going to change anything, not so long as this is Satan's system to do with as he pleases.
    As a matter of fact, it's prophesied to get worse.
    Ironically the only people that are setting up a rival government to Christ are nominal Christians who think they can change this system for the better

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  3. A man has to be responsible and approved to be an elder. The elders have to be responsible and approved to have a church. When we put our lives truly in God's hands, our decisions are guided and our individuals lives are made right for the Lord. That is the only way things are right in our lives.

    I get that ideas need to be fleshed out like back when the law was being written for America. However, I think it's pretty silly when men who can't even govern their own lives, let alone the lives of women and children, nor keep the commands about church functioning, start planning politics.

    I'm not attacking anyone in particular. But leading people through a desert and the rock that became a mountain have something in common and that's that man had nothing to do with either. Sure, it is the people that do people things, and Moses was called, but you don't get Moses leadership without Moses character, and God is certainly not going to back anyone who can't keep their house together.

    It is the finger of God that has always been involved in the kingdom. America does not stand without the blessings of God, no matter how clever its laws are. And, while it's appropriate that you talk amongst yourselves, "without Me you can do nothing."

    Maybe if God was welcomed back into the churches and they decided to actually behave themselves, I could see a future for political discourse, but, as it is, successful or not, at least among America's churches, trading one demon for another is pointless.

    God can raise the dead. He creates wealth. The true cause and effect has nothing to do with man's wisdom. But that's how the churches are being led because that's the only god they know. The problem with being clever is that it is not the same thing as the words of God. "The serpent was more subtle…" Intellectual Christianity is a culture, an idea, a set of principles built, not on the hand of God, but the ideas of men. There's no difference in that religion than in any other godless ideology.

    Imagine for a moment that God is real. He really interacts. He really corrects. He really disciplines. Imagine that I don't need my own answers, but to rely on the hand of God to fight my battles, correct my life, and bring the world where it should go. Imagine that it is God's kingdom. He is the one who builds it. The question isn't, "How can we build this house?", but, rather, "What do you need from me, God, and where do you want me?"

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  4. Oh gosh, I had to stop it and comment after the Venn Diagram part. Doug. Doug. Doug. You missed your chance to sneak in your excitement and love for the Venn!!! 😂 But your feeling a must not be as strong as madame VPs.

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  5. "…To envision à state that makes no preference between Baptists and Presbyterians is a relatively easy exercize and would be noble if executed rightly. But to envision à state that pretends to see no difference between Baptists and sociopaths or between Presbyterians and twerking drag queens is not to display an admirable neutrality.

    This only happens when the State has decided to side with the kinky-side +, and it is quite a game with them to see how long it will be before Christians catch on. (Believe it or not some Christians still haven't caught on!)

    This means separation of Church and State and the separation of Christian morality and State are two entirely distinct issues. 

    The former being a Christian ideal ans the former being a demonic ideal." 

    Sent from Outlook for Android

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  6. There are two different languages. There is the language of the atheist and there is the language of Yahweh. There is no communication between the two because the atheist does not want to communicate in the same way that Yahweh wants to communicate. For example, Yahweh says, “Let us reason together, though your sins be as scarlet…” (Isaiah 1:18). The first thing on Yahweh's lists for discussion is your sin. However, for the atheist that topic is the last thing on the list.
    The atheist's remedy to explain all his theories and to discredit the Genesis story is to add the construct of billions of years. But on the other hand, everything in Genesis is created in its adult form from the beginning. The trees, the animals, mankind are all created in their adult form. That also includes the universe. And an adult universe would and should appear to be billions of years old.
    Atheist do not understand that consciousness is not a chemical formula which could ever be created in a lab. When we talk about the elements we are talking about our experience of the elements through the miracle of consciousness.

    I would agree that the churches today are defective. In fact, the Apostle Paul pronounced a curse on most churches today because the main Christian denominations of today preach a different gospel than what Paul preached. To quote exactly what Paul said, “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:8). Both apostle Paul and Peter preached the same gospel and quote from the prophet Joel (2:32) saying, "For whosoever shall call upon the name of Yahweh shall be saved." (Romans 10:13 and Acts 2:21). The English translations say “Lord” instead of “Yahweh.” But “Lord” does not translate “Yahweh” it is a substitution of a totally different word altogether. This substitution activates two additional curses because if you substitute a word you are both adding and subtracting at the same time. “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” (Revelation 22:18, 19)

    We are commanded by Messiah that, “…repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.” (Luke 24:47). In other words, we are supposed to preach the gospel that came out of Jerusalem and not preach the gospel that came out of Antioch, or Rome, or England, or New York, or Chicago, etc. By the time the gospel got to Antioch it had already been perverted as we read, “…And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.” (Acts 11:26). The problem with this is that YHWH spoke of a people called by His name (Deuteronomy 28:10; 2 Chronicles 7:14; Isaiah 43:6, 7; Daniel 9:19; Amos 9:12; Acts 15:17). YHWH did not choose the name “Christian” for Himself. The people of Antioch chose that name and all the so called main denominations of today embrace that name “Christian” for themselves. When Peter and Paul preached the gospel they quote the prophet Joel, “Whosoever shall call on the name of YHWH shall be saved.” (Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21; Rom. 10:13). The English word "Lord" is not a translation for the name YHWH but is a substitution. I ask you, how many of the church fathers and so called main denominations of today preach that gospel? None of them. Absolutely none!
    Paul makes it very clear that the end result of him preaching the gospel was that the people would call on the name YHWH. He says in (Rom. 10:14,15), The preachers are sent. They preach. The people hear. The people believe. The people call on the name YHWH (Rom. 10:13). I ask you, how many of the church fathers and so called main denominations of today preach that gospel? None of them. Absolutely none!
    It took only one generation after the death of Joshua for the children of Israel to forget the mighty works of YHWH which He had worked through Moses and Joshua and to began to serve the idols of the people around them (Judges 2:7-13). It took only one generation!
    ….

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  7. I don't think Hawley's bill goes far ENOUGH.
    Smart phones are easily more detrimental to developing youths than cigarettes.
    If we still have a country in 20 years we'll look back at our current technologically accelerated Sodom and Gomorrah with disgust.

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  8. The people who should be feared are those that believe in resurrections, demons, devils and eternal torture. These type of delusions always lead to tyranny as we've clearly witnessed with Trump-Republican-Jesus Taliban. Fifteen states are currently racing to force women and children to give birth without exceptions for rape and incest!

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  9. Christ was not about the Romans or restoring the power and piety of Judea, but about individuals, sin and salvation inside one of the most horrific meganations that ever existed…that crucified anyone that challenged their authority or fed them to lions for entertainment of the cheering crowds

    The United States is not God's nation. Even the shining city on a hill was a regional myth and conceit that eventually killed a the original inhabitants and then started hanging imagined witches to entertained crowds…much like Rome.

    The United States is not a nation, any more than the UK or Netherlands is. It is a trade federation with a common army. It is not one people, one philosophy, one tribe under one family, one anything…. Despite our high sounding rhetoric or stirring wartime Norman Rockwell paintings….we have only acted like a nation at best for 10 years running….then back to rival trade states that try to best each other.
    Cali vs Florida
    Illinois vs Texas
    Alabama vs Ohio

    All with governors bribing multinationals and residents to settle here, not there.

    Just live your life as best you can. Even the 1st Christians survived, Tiberius, Nero and Claudius.

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  10. You're right that what is going to happen will take shape over the course of a couple centuries, but given the acceleration that is occurring in the West and in America, we may not be a part of it. I don't think America has a couple more centuries in it at our present rate of collapse (and most of Western Europe has even less time).

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  11. A concise capsulized compendium of the delineation of the raison d etre of Christian Activism – noted that the source language of any human legislation- to be worth its pen and ink, besides the wilderness-wandering-waste of time and resources from side effects of a medicine concocted from the munchings and crunchings of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,- Has to be originating extraterrestrial from corrupt, bankrupt, decayed, fallen, lost, hopeless (this descrips can go on an on – and all right!) — world we happen to be living in. What a relief we don't need to come up with a lasting and working antidote to this slow and sure toxicity today or tomorrow – and in God's flatter view of time – this spinning world is well under His control…

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