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The Red Planet beckons us toward it, and the day draws closer when humans will walk on its dusty surface, and the moons of Mars, Phobos & Deimos, may be our gateway to that future.
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Settling Mars: Phobos & Deimos
Episode 438; March 14, 2024
Produced, Written & Narrated by: Isaac Arthur
Editors: Israel Debro
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Jeremy Jozwik
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Commenting on this before finishing because I'll forget later, but does it truly matter if the moons have ice already? By the time we set anything major up, surely we would be capable of catching a comet and politely asking it to chill out on Phobos?
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OK but can Turing Tumble run DOOM?
Great video as usual, Isaac! Way back in 1984 NASA conducted a proposal called the Phobos and Deimos (PH-D) project, which would have sent six to eight astronauts to Deimos where they would have operated multiple robotic rovers on the surface of Mars. Options would have included a brief two-person sortie to the Martian surface. The authors stated that it would be so much easier to land on Deimos than on Mars. In addition, since the signal delay from Deimos to Mars was negligible it would allow the crew to teleoperate the spacecraft on the Martian surface.
Also, JAXA is planning to launch their MMX to Phobos in 2026. 🤞 That mission should (hopefully!) answer many of the questions you raised.
What to do with homeless people on Mars? Same as we do here on Earth?
Great video amd timing I was ready to discount these guys are being little better then captured astroids for my Risk like micro solar system table top game… But yeah given their location I'll have to give these guys the gas gaint big moon treatment of getting a single developed terror as apposed to the few Earth's moon gets and the miner fleets or the asteroid belt.
Without any intention of 'offense,' but rather in defense of lives to be risked.., all nearby sizable planets and most 'everywhere else, are only worth avoiding until not to expend their required resources would seem already arcane; our better application will build those resources via small-body utilizations according to conservations, in order to build those budgets first, instead. Else begs [dumb] elitist heroics, & Darwin.., to boot; "greatness" often infamously refuses even basic logic, and this will be seen to be a classic case in pointing where 'pander exceeds more thoroughly considered prowess, & even the opportunist, W. von Braun, knew it as 'Tory' nonsense, too.
'Better to focus, for 'instance, on 'ice-('bot)-shield panels' (auto'- self-assembly procedures, or cyclotron-type relativistic propellant-mass pre-heaters around good shielded (& soon enough, megalopolitan-) spinship-farm/cities, and stuff, whence better real gains may be had toward 'loftier' notions of now antiquated & long outdated grandeur, please?
Thanks muchly, nonetheless, as always.
very cool episode cheers from Toronto i love listening to your channel while i work at a factory assembling castors and wheels.
Hello Isaac Arthur! I have been a fan of your channel for a while now and i love most of your topics. But i was wondering if you could make an episode about what we could achieve when we finally solves the fusion problem. I know that you have mentioned fusion a lot in your videos, but it would be cool to listen to a video on fusion as the main topic. What could we do with all of that limitless and clean power?
If you're up for episode suggestions. I'd love to hear one on giving Earth rings. Either in a "what natural phenomenon could give Earth rings" or "how much orbital infrastructure/what kind of orbital infrastructure could give Earth rings?"
Do the aluminum foil thing. Keep Earth fresh.
I don’t understand why we treat astronauts as sacred. We need to start breaking a few eggs to make our omelettes. We treat every other laborer in the supply chain as expendable, and tolerate preventable fatalities in other heavy industries because investments in exposure control measures are too expensive. Why treat astronauts differently than other heavy industries? Progress is built on the backs and bodies of the proletariat, and there is nothing wrong with that fact.
I keep thinking of Asimov's essay on Mars settlements where he warns we should study the early history of Jamestown carefully. Hopefully things go better so planning ahead is going to be ideal.
Issac, I love the idea of multiple robotic refueling/mining depots staged throughout the solar system! I still want to go to Mars, but there's no reason we can't send unmanned Starships to various points to get things started before we actually land in 6 years. 😀 The whole process reminds me of that great book series, Red Mars, Green Mars, and Blue Mars. Some of it didn't get the science right, but there's still so much they did get right, and he took the time to explore the humanitarian and cultural issues as well. Thanks for a great post!
the moons of mars are mostly made of kerogen, like Oil Shale
Land a automated fuel factory on it, top off your tanks in orbit
Dr. Betruger approves.
How big of a board do I need to be able to play Doom on Turing Tumble?
Could one of the moons be turned into a true space station maybe speed up the rotation for 1/2 earth gravity or more.
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After all, we are living on a big blue marble. Your family seems to enjoy the game a lot. And I will recommend it to my family.
As long as we don't start doing teleportation experiments there, we'll be fine.
Hmm, a thought. A large sunshade, mirror, and/or magnetic deflector could very well serve a dual purpose and collect helium and hydrogen from solar wind
As long as people don't do teleportation experiments on those moons that could open the gateways to hell itself, everything will be fine.
A space elevator is a likely neded step in space development. It's not nearly the capacity of a system of orbital rings, but also nothing like as expensive to build, and the materials you need to develop for it are going to be very useful for many applications, including orbital rings. (The circular rings are subject to only local forces so they don't need super-strong materials, but if you want eccentric ones to bridge between the circular ones, you do need super-strong materials because they will be subject to forces from other parts of the ring.)
so we start from Oorth to go to Moorth, sounds like a looht of fuool
To Isaac Arthur standards, this is a very unambitious endeavour 😊 No Kardashev 3 civilization stuff this time
there is a game called Dyson Sphere that may be up you ally. You are part of the reason I'm so hooked on it
And not a single reference to DOOM?🤣
If space x is planning landing the super heavy. I would think on landing there they would have to have a way to land an take off. That rocket will throw up enough rock and dust to make doing that untenable.
If we ever put a rotating sky hook on Phobos, I can easily picture it growing to a giant metropolis and a center of trade for the Martian hillsphere.
Could one launch a dirigible from the moons for landing on mars?
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"Dept. of Redundancy Dept. " That was awesome.
I think they will eventually become prime real estate after they perfect micro black holes. I could see them becoming the wealthiest cities on the Martian colony, reserved for Ceo's of terraforming and space transport companies and the like.
Im guessing we'll see a "Mars-to-orbit" system as a concept test of a in-situ fuel process.
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An underground base on one of Mars moons would be protected from cosmic radiation. People on the base could remote control teleprecsence machinery on Mars. This way we could avoid putting people on Mars until we have a functional base built there. We cannot directly remote control machinery on Mars due light speed lag but if the operators are nearby, it could work.
Why didn’t I get notified of this upload?? Yes yes, let’s gooo